His ceremony will be recognised now:
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime...ding-1.3113769
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His ceremony will be recognised now:
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime...ding-1.3113769
Fair play to them.
O'Kane's humanist wedding is to go ahead on Thursday: http://www.thejournal.ie/appeal-huma...52917-Jun2017/
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Originally Posted by Cliodhna Russell
As demonstrative as you'll see- O'Kane is just an Irishman. Not a Catholic from the north.
It's an interesting one. You often hear people up the north identifying their Catholicism as their reason for identifying as Irish. Playing Gaelic football and following the Irish soccer team and whatever other little things an Irishman up north does are factors too. Not everyone that identifies as Catholic is religious in that regard. I know I'm not anyway.
Of far more interest is that she claims to be NI's only "glamour model" so a most unusual career to-date. Vice (no pun intended) President of Atheist NI, involved in the first humanist wedding in NI and the only glamour model in NI. Quite a character it would appear.
A bizarre letter (e-mail) of sympathy for Eunan O'Kane and Laura Lacole in the Belfast Telegraph on account of their decision to have a humanist ceremony: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/op...-35853294.html
The mind boggles. Why does Donald even care or think their relationship and the means by which they wanted to celebrate that is any of his business, considering the couple's marriage (along with the thousands of other marriages that occur outside the confines of a Christian church every day around the world that Donald presumably hasn't been e-mailing about) will make absolutely no difference to his life whatsoever? Religious, holier-than-thou people like this probably genuinely think they're coming across as compassionate and are imparting sound advice with good intentions, but such a patronising message is really just downright insulting. "They have nothing to live for"? Give over. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Donald J. Morrison
Haha some things aren't worth analysing, Danny. :)
I hope the mad fella is right about this though and those crazy humanists are deluded...
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Originally Posted by Donald J. Morrison
Following non existent sky fairies drives some people bonkers.......
Sometimes kids have invisible friends.....but as they grow up they sort of disappear....
Sky Fairy following should be outlawed unless some proof of existence can be produced.....which it never has.....
Sky Fairies are consistent....Absolutely no proof for any of them existing.........
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Originally Posted by KrisLetang
I guess everyone else would be sub-human?
Well it sounds to me she is the driving force behind the whole thing, I dunno if he is particularly bothered about the whole thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
I suppose it would explain why O'Kane is no good on crosses.
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Originally Posted by seanfhear
Do you have any evidence God is non-existent?
I think when you are demanding evidence for someone's belief you should at the very least have some proof for your own otherwise it makes you look rather hypocritical if not reckless.
Jesus, we can't even figure out if Harry Arter is 100% committed to Ireland yet we expect to settle the debate over whether there's a higher power?
Why do they need permission all they had to do was get married in a registry office surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
She discussed it with Tara Mills on BBC Radio Ulster's Talkback programme on the 10th of May. There's a segment of the discussion here: https://audioboom.com/posts/5904822-...marriage-in-niQuote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
I can't find the rest of the discussion online as they only make episodes available on the BBC's website for a month or so, but, from what I recall, she said Eunan was from a Catholic background and that she'd managed to convince him to become a humanist. Before this, it wasn't something of which he'd had much awareness, but he seemed keen once humanism was explained to him.
They required authorisation because their desired ceremony - a humanist ceremony conducted by a celebrant accredited by Humanists UK and sharing their outlook on the world - wouldn't have been legally recognised in the north and they presumably didn't want to get married in a registry office (just as a religious couple wouldn't have to get married in a registry office to have their religious marriage ceremony legally recognised).Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Brilliant. He enjoys nailing her sufficiently, to go along with it so. Basically.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Good lad.
"Tell me you love me!" replaced by "Tell me you love Humanism!" as the crucial moment of euphoria....Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
It's a brilliantly vicious piece of spiteful malice aforethought dressed up as concern. Can't just mind his own *****ng business. And of course any low point in life that follows hereafter will be down to the madness, folly, delusion and blindness of their not signing up to his preferred edition of poorly or politically translated and edited latin transcribings of hebrew and aramaic middle eastern folk tales.
This isn't the theology thread.
Well I've signed up for the wrong forum then.
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/a/ar%7Dpha2.gif
This is the Humanist Flag. Meh. Dr.PeePee could design a better one at 3AM with his eyes closed.
The term "Catholic" in the north is often interchanged with the word "nationalist" and can be used as another term to describe someone from the Irish nationalist community without necessarily possessing strict religious or theological connotations. I prefer to avoid the term myself as it feeds into the sectarian "two warring religious tribes" narrative of the "Troubles" and subsequent political tension, which is an insidiously false portrayal of Irish history, as far as I'm concerned, that seeks to relieve a very important third party, Britain, of its primary role and responsibility in the conflict.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Britain, rather, prefers to portray itself as having been a neutral or peace-keeping referee that was fundamentally external to the discord. The evidence, however, says otherwise. The conflict was one between national identities over disputed territory, or the constitutional status of the north of Ireland, in other words. Britain, in defending, or asserting even, its colonial/imperial and economic interests, obviously played a massive primary role - throughout centuries of Irish history up until modern times - in contributing to the disagreement and violence. Religion became a sort of internal social marker, but sectarianism was secondary to the real roots of the conflict, which were political and national.
As I was saying above, I heard Laura Lacole on the radio in the middle of May discussing her and Eunan's plans for a humanist wedding. She described Eunan as having been from a Catholic family background, although I recall getting the distinct impression from her words that he wasn't particularly religious or devout himself and it seems he was fully open to a humanist "conversion" once she outlined her humanist outlook to him.
I suppose I'd consider my self a "cultural Catholic" (if I was going to apply such a label at all) even though I'm really an agnostic atheist in a philosophical sense. Also, if one is applying for a job in the north, they must submit an equality and diversity equal opportunities form along with their CV or application pack. In England, these forms list a number of ethnicities from which to choose in order to identify your ethnic or cultural heritage and look like the following:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...psowllrrdt.png
In the north, you might sometimes find a similar section (which isn't a legal requirement, but is recommended by the Equality Commission) to the following on such forms:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...pscwzyfrwo.png
But you'll also find the following in all cases, as it's a legal requirement:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...psh2xcetj2.png
I would tick the box corresponding with "I am a member of the Roman Catholic community" there. I know it's not really asking me if I believe in transubstantiation or if I go to Mass every week.
Danny your posts have gotten way to long man. Seriously almost every one is a novel. This is getting crazy.
I don't think there's a rule on length and I've got three images in there. Anyway, I'd been under the impression you were ignoring my posts seeing as you frequently avoid answering any questions I pose to you in replies... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KrisLetang
It's a small price to pay. I'd fake it myself personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
I suppose in a way Humanism is a bit like decaffeinated tea or non-alcoholic beer.
Or maybe even sniffing the touchline?
Signs a new four-year deal at Leeds. Hopefully that's a good sign and he becomes a more certain starter. Of course, with Leeds, they could have a new manager at any time - https://www.leedsunited.com/news/tea.../eunan-extends
Had a great game for Leeds today bossing midfield at the City Ground. Murphy did okay for Forest. Plenty of threat but lacked the finish.
This lad is a lovely baller anytime I've seen him. Deserves a proper go with the national team.
Eunan O'Kane hasn't been given a squad number at Leeds this season. Not in Marcelo Bielsa's plans it seems.
I hope he get a good move. very tidy player.
Maybe Marcelo doesn't believe in Humanists either? Maybe Eunan tried to explain that he is a deep-laying midfielder, rather than a deep-lying midfielder and therefore the difference between lying and laying in his Northern accent, and Marcelo thought he was too crazy? Although that seems a bit far-fetched seeing as Bielsa is as crazy as it gets.Quote:
Originally Posted by IsMiseSean
Surplus to requirements at Leeds http://www.insidefutbol.com/2018/08/...r-star/385644/
Into L1 with Luton till January. Not good.
- https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45370425
broke his tibia and fibula yesterday unfortunately. Hope he makes good recovery
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co....vArrbEMCJYOi7w
Update on his progress. Training at Thorpe Arch. Needed further surgery. Back on the pitch in a couple of weeks. Hopes to get a move away in January. Curiously Leeds could use someone with a bit guile and subtlety on the ball but he hasn't a hope there. Big fan of Bielsa but he's a deeply pig headed man at times.
Rejoins Luton Town on an 18 month deal - https://www.lutontown.co.uk/news/202...okane-returns/
It's a strange one, both clubs have described it as an "arrangement", neither have called it a transfer, or a loan
Didn't even spot that.
Back on the pitch - https://www.the42.ie/eunan-okane-ret...78057-Aug2020/