Okay, I'll sleep easy in the knowledge that as bad and all as things actually look now with our team of happy hoofers, it could be worse with a lost dressing room or even one with Paul Jewell :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
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Okay, I'll sleep easy in the knowledge that as bad and all as things actually look now with our team of happy hoofers, it could be worse with a lost dressing room or even one with Paul Jewell :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
If all that is true then maybe you could answer my original question:Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Name me a satisfactory competitive result with any sort of acceptable performance against decent opposition (not Estonia or Faroes or Armenia) in the last 3 years since Paris?
Fascinating stuff in today's Times
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...325507692.html
and Examiner
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/s...ly-211468.html
Spud, as our professional meeja watcher, what do you think?
It's hardly a resounding vote of confidence from the FAI in the manager, 'we would get rid of you for sure but we found out we can't afford to'.
I wonder if O'Brien had something to say there to influence the board's decision, something like 'if you keep Trap - I'll stick to my sponsorship promise 100% but if you let him go, you can't expect me to pay 50% of the settlement'.
The funny thing is, if we do somehow make the world cup everyone will want him to stay on for the next Euros.
Well, if he pulled it out of the bag, that would make sense, but based on recent form, we'll be nowhere near the World Cup. That's why people have been getting worried about his management and have been desiring change by some means or another; be that by placing a new manager in charge or through a change of strategy/modus operandi by Trap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
Well, as you say Crosby, it would be a case of funny old game, stranger things have happened, sick as a parrot and indeed over the moon too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
Will we make the world cup though ? Or will we take one or maybe two points from Austria & Sweden home and away combined. Who knows. At least its interesting.
Look, we should start forgetting about qualifying for Brazil no matter who's in charge. Instead of checking out trannies in Rio in 2014, we'll have to dream of drinking yak milk in Yekaterinburg in 2018...
Give over. Lets play the double header in March and then evaluate our chances. Runners up spot is still in our own hands. Sweden obviously are in a favourable position but look inconsistent, I'm giving up on fcukall this early in to the campaign.
So 4 years into his reign the FAI suggest that maybe the manager of the football team goes and watches the players that available to him. Anyone else see anything slightly unusual in this?
It might be worth pointing out that not too long ago John Giles and Eamon Dunphy were putting Paul Jewell's name forward as manager for Ireland. In fact John Giles actually approached Jewell and 'sounded him out'. Jewell was at the time on a break from football and since his return to the game he has suffered relegation with Derby and has now left Ipswich who currently lie bottom of the Championship. So be careful what/who you ask for as even our so called 'experts' can get things badly wrong!Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
What annoys me on the panel is no one brings these things back up or points these things out to dunphy or even giles. Bill just goes along like dumbo the elephant, he should be sticking these questions to them and holding them to ransom on them.
Dumbo? leave Dumbo out of it. Dumbo is a classic.
Not entirely sure you know where Yekaterinburg is...Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Could he not do this equally well from Italy, watching recorded matches with the option of multiple camera angles, replay, and slow-motion functions?Quote:
Originally Posted by bishbash
You see a lot of things watching a player play in front of you that you wouldn't see on telly.Quote:
Originally Posted by peadar1987
No substitute for face to face contact with players in my opinion, can't understand his continued use of text messages.
Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Well, that's a start.
Wouldn't be the biggest yak-milk drinking area is all.
Nice enough city actually. If we get to play there, the London pub closes for seven hours a week. :)
:) Sorry Stu, my knowledge on areas of interior Russia most partial to Yak milk drinking is not what it used to be... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Did you visit there on your recent escapades? When it was announced as a venue for 2018 it was one of those weird places id never heard of that piqued my interest... we should plan to meet there and yack up after a couple of Yak vodkas if we qualify!
Yeah, I was there for about 12 hours. Arrived at 6am, left at 6pm. Just a stop-over on the train. Was -16 when I arrived towards the end of March!
It's ok; fairly modern, western city (which is mainly why I was having a laugh at your suggestion that it was a place of nomads sitting around drinking yak milk outside their tents). Not a massive amount for the tourist to do there - the Romanovs were shot there, and a church was built on the site later; there's a giant keyboard and a few miles outside of town is a monument indicating the border of Europe and Asia. The London pub though is open from 7am till 6am five days a week, doesn't close at all on Saturday and shuts for two hours on Sundays, which will fill the gap nicely! The lounge staff are all dressed in the traditional English dress of suggestive school uniforms. :)
Just came across this story: http://www.tribalfootball.com/articl...1#.UNwgWW_symN
18 months ago would have been around the time of the Nations Cup games against NI/Scotland and our away Euro 2012 qualifier against Macedonia.Quote:
Republic of Ireland manager Giovanni Trapattoni admits he came close to joining AS Roma last year.
Trapattoni revealed “Roma wanted me as their Coach 18 months ago,” when Luis Enrique was still on the bench.
“Around 18 months ago I was contacted by Roma and they wanted me as their Coach,” 73-year-old Trap told Radio Manà Manà Sport.
“It wasn’t the first time I had been close to the Giallorossi, but the negotiations did not end with a positive outcome.
“In all honesty, it disappointed me a little, because Roma are a great club with passionate fans.”
Wow, that's something else.
Because he's probably getting 3 times the wages here.
I'd be fairly confident a Serie A club would pay more than Ireland, particularly for someone of Trap's experience.
He's not up for a full time job, health wise. He can make the same money here working six or seven weeks a year.
why would he come out and say that. go, dont go. Whatever.
He's seriously childish in a lot of ways. The point seems to be "count your blessings Ireland, there was a big Italian club interested in me".
Then again, a lot of managers who have operated at the highest level are the same. Ferguson, Mourinho etc
We are lucky to have a manager such as Mr Trapattoni.
Where else are we going to get someone that good and experienced?
In Trap we must trust!
Trap took over Stuttgart in 05-06, when they were one of the top Bundesliga teams. They sunk down the table with Trap in charge, and he got sacked half-way through the season. His style of play did not fit the players at the club. Armin Veh took over, and the following season, they won the Bundesliga.Quote:
Originally Posted by the doc
Trap has a great pedigree, but his style is too rigid to be successful with every team he manages. Like with Stuttgart, he clearly doesn't know how to get the best out of the resources available to the Irish team at the moment. I wonder if Armin Veh could be swayed from Eintracht Frankfurt? I'd like to see a Dutch or German manager take over after Trap, to hell with British managers.
Veh wouldn't take the drop in wages to come to Ireland, no sane person would want to manage Ireland. All they have to do is see how the umbilical cord has been strengthened to the mother country and they'd run a mile. Eintracht are going great guns this year because they're throwing money at players and doing well, much as I love them, they'll probably drop off the pace in March and struggle for a Europa League spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supreme feet
A Dutch or German coach would only work if there was the work done lower down the ranks. And that the coaches of the underage teams buy into the same philosophy, in Ireland, how likely is that?
It's already happened. Every underage side plays progressive football using the same adaptable system. The only outlier is Trapattoni.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudulika
Has Trapattoni actually been over to England to see games in the last while? Didn't he say he would, or did I imagine that?
It was reported that he attended one or two Norwich games, I think. Not sure if he's been to any others.
Will this continue without the technical director? How long will it continue before the usual self-collapse comes in irish football? When the young players come through in abundance Trap won't be there, we're 20 years away from a consistent senior side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Clark said he came to see him at one of the Villa gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Hopefully not any of the last three!Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
One of the few Irish sportswriters that I respect, Liam Mackey had a piece in the Examiner over Christmas - well it was really was of an end of year sporting piece with the other sports journalists from the paper. Liam's view was that Trap has performed a very good job with a limited Irish team. The Euros aside, he has performed very well, almost qualifying in his first campaign and delivering on qualification the second time around. This campaign has been relatively disappointing but results wise, we are where most would have expected.
Yes but the performances have been terrible. Even when we have won we haven't deserved to. We don't have the players to play direct football. We have the players to play possession football. We are actually limited at Traps game plan.
I'm absolutely stunned you've managed to come to this conclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by squareball
I think a lot of us need to accept the relative success of the Irish team is also based on cyclical factors.
As in there are certain eras when our pool of players are less good than others. This is one of those times...