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I know Dunny, I think that made me nearly more angry than anything else today!
Pass on my number and I will give him a personal escort despite the dangers of crossing the border :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
Surely if Monaghan hav'nt "existed" in this years League, they did'nt exist in any competition!Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
The League of Ireland in its current guise is on life support. The success of clubs in Europe and the sale of players to clubs across the water are only papering over the cracks. Unless something is done fast, more clubs will slip down the swanny.
Ourselves, Kilkenny, Kildare, Fingal Monaghan and Cobh have hit the rocks since 2008. That's a ridiculous number of teams to lose within this time frame. A 12-14 team National League built on a pyramid structure to incorporate regional leagues is a possible avenue forward. A structure like this would allow clubs in difficulty to filter down the divisions to get their houses in order without having to drop out of senior football.
Sadly, football's governing body in this country couldn't give a hoot about the LoI. If they took a leaf out of our President's book and actually took an interest in what was going on, it would be a start.
I was sad to read on teletext earlier about Monaghan. From someone that has lost 2 clubs Dublin city and Fingal ,i feel your heartache. I was only up there once with Dublin City and got respect. Sorry to see you go Monaghan.
Sorry for the club to be gone. Its few fans also. The FAI press release smells of bitterness and sour grapes. Funny how the FAI gave Mons €150,000 and only 6 weeks later asked Limerick to put a couple of hundred thousand euro in the bank in advance of the season in order to participate in that season.
Good news if true, something positive to hold onto for Mons fans
http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/art...y-in-business/
Are the Mondogs gone for good aswell now?
My thoughts and prayers are with Mons fans at this difficult time. Gutted for ye.
Franchise opportunity ?? Must be served by a pretty girl in Mons striped shirt though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by horton
From a purely logical point of view, I thought the same myself. But at the same time, I have no objection to us not being reinstated in the Cup. We were knocked out of it, in pretty convincing fashion - so good luck to whoever gets the bye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldred
limerick have been doing the pretty girls in shops for some years now :pQuote:
Originally Posted by bullit
I agree with your sentiment, Fivesilver, but the fact that teams are gaining League points they did'nt win makes rather strange.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fivesilver
I would have thought that ALL Monaghans results were now expunged.
Anyway, it's a sad day again for LoI and Mon. fans in particular. Always liked the way they battled on regardless of poor support and will miss the trips to Gortakeegan.
I only heard the news by txt at half six and had to check on aertel. I couldnt believe what I was reading.. For the first time in a long time i had no interest in the irish match tonight after reading of JD's shannigans. He should get the bullet along with the other muppets in his drink club. Monaghan Utd were one of the better run clubs so its a hell of a shock as it was unexpected. The amount of clubs that have gone since foot.ie was founded eleven yrs ago I am surprised noone has mentioned that..
To sum up sad day for monaghan utd and for irish football.. Irish football RIP
So you're saying it's all Adam's fault...Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Seems legit.
Only one mons left to look out for now :(
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Eh eh....wrong. fai lent us that money a few years ago. We have been paying it as well as giving them thousand of euros of free use of the pitch since so you can shove your half baked sob story up your arse.Quote:
Originally Posted by gael353
I can't see a league team returning to Monaghan for some time. It would require a massive upturn in the fortunes of the whole LOI- and more importantly the Irish economy. But I'd far rather see MUFC leave the league now and continue to produce players (there are 2 ex-Mons in the current Ireland U21 squad) and have Gortakeegan as an asset to the community, than carry on to the grim end and have everything disappear.Quote:
Originally Posted by gufc2000
And as you watch an Irish team crash out of the Euros, and an Irish team leave the league, just think: John Delaney earns more than all of the prize money for the entire league combined, and (I believe) more than the combined budget of all the Irish youth teams.
Eh i said yee recieved money and you say you were lent money? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Magicme
[/QUOTE] so you can shove your half baked sob story up your arse.[/QUOTE]
Limerick had to deposit a a couple of hundred thousand euro in an Fai acc so wheres a sob story?
Always sad to see a club fold. Saddened for the football people following them, less so for others (including but not limited to Paul Oliphant). Would echo Macy and Dodge though, those running the club have to take their share of blame (in tandem with the licensing committee obviously), if the loss of the projected income from a sponsor is their main reason for pulling out it makes you wonder what kind of sum they were expecting to get in the first place if it was the difference between survival and withdrawal.
Will Monaghan contuine in some lower league or is that good night?
More than likely will be playing in the Ulster Senior LeagueQuote:
Originally Posted by Sean South
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_...on_football%29
Only there once and infected them by the sounds of that post. JinxQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/art...y-in-business/Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean South
Would love to see Monaghan build towards a come back in the Irish premier division that would really make the FAI look bad.
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Originally Posted by Magicme
Least ye could do after they gave ye 150 grand and got ye promoted in fairness.
Andrew they didnt GIVE us money. Its a loan that is being paid back. As for getting us promoted, cop yourself on.
Trevor, I meant that you seemed to be crying that we had gotten this money in the same week that you were forced to put up the money.
As a matter of interest, do many clubs get six figure loans from the FAI? Access to credit is such a problem for clubs.
Andrew? Ok then they GAVE ye a loan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magicme
Ye were more then happy to back Big John and the FAI last year when they were helping ye out now ye are saying they didn't help ye enough i find that amusing.
Just because you know people's real names don't use them it makes you look like a complete d!ck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magicme
Good to see Monaghan trying to keep the club going, the are a proper football club not like some of the franchises we had like Fingal, Kildare, Galway, Dublin City etc where it was LOI or nothing.
Galway are still on the go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean South
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Originally Posted by gordongekko
Are they still playing?
8 clubs crashing out of the league since the FAI took over and undoubtedly others in the future on this current trajectory of calamity.
If this had happened in most countrys Delaney and Gavin would be ran out of the place instead they're pocketing €430,000 per year buying off the support of the 'Best Fans in the World'.
The league has no future under these cowboys and has no future with the clubs running the league itself.
Good lord, I love the sense of perspective we all have. th, 8 clubs "crashing out of the league" - "calamity", are you writing for the Indo?
It's so easy to blame the FAI for this, like they allow clubs overspend, or let owners/gm's/ceo's play games with figures. The strictures are in place in Ireland as in most other leagues and for crying out loud can't it be clearly said that the clubs are at fault? It wasn't the FAI that forced Ollie to take loans from all comers. Or for Fingal to depend on one main source of income, or even on Derry to have twice the fun with contracts. The league is ignored because it suits too many to have it that way. It suits the LOI "fans" because they feel special. It suits the clubs because they can get away with all sorts. It suits the FAI because they can keep the good times rolling at the top table. JD's salary shouldn't be the issue, or this constant and teeth grindingly bitchy "best fans in the world" comment pouring from posts. Fans are fans, supporters are supporters. Fans come and go, supporters stay. Rovers hung on because they'd a large group of supporters to see them through, Limerick chopped and changed but a core of supporters still stuck it out. Monaghan have a loyal, solid core of support, they just didn't grow it enough and attract the "fans". But they'll be back. It's not anyo one group's fault, it's just business.
Knew you'd find a way to have a pop at football fans as usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudulika
Sorry now but can you explain to me in what way Galway are/were a franchise?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean South
If GUFC are/were a franchise they are no more so than most other LOI clubs.
Limerick fans are a bitter/morbid bunch, ye of any group seem happy when clubs go out of business.
Ye Are on here still with sour grapes cause Mons got 3 points for Harps playing an illegal player last year (rightly so - they are the rules not some FAI conspiracy). And rubbing salt into their wounds now. Ye were the same when we got refused our license last year.
Ye of the multiple carnations ffs.
I hope it stays fine for ye with the moneybags owner because ye would be in some pile of sh1t if he walked.
RIP Mons.
I hate it when teams fold, no matter who they are.
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Originally Posted by galwayhoop
You do know that Sean South is not a Limerick fan ya?
For the record anyway i hate to see any club go out of business and id feel sorry for anyone that it happened to including Galway but i feel no sympathy for Monaghan. Its not over anything to do with them getting promoted off the field its because of the horrible way our fans were treated up their the despicable lies made up and carried on by people involved with the club regarding our fans and the fans attitude to the whole thing.
I didn't want them to go out of business but i don't feel bad that they have.
You forgot the inverted commas so I fixed it for you :p I'm a fan of baseball, but I don't support it. I do see a difference, but maybe it's my new glasses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Can we clear up what a franchise is once and for all - no, feck it, separate thread. Ye're all wrong! Sporting Fingal weren't a franchise, if they were, we all are:
Definition
A form of business organization in which a firm which already has a successful product or service (the franchisor) enters into a continuing contractual relationship with other businesses (franchisees) operating under the franchisor's trade name and usually with the franchisor's guidance, in exchange for a fee. Some of the most popular franchises in the United States include Subway, McDonalds, and 7-Eleven.
Read more: http://www.investorwords.com/2078/fr...#ixzz1yFPDrYJr
Now, for this to work, it means the FAI/LOI has to be a firm with a successful product or service which enters into a relationship for franchisees to trade under the same name (FAI Sligo Rovers FC etc). 2 things wrong with that - what's the FAI/LOI's successful product or service - apart from self-aggrandisement? And clubs aren't trading under the same name.
Can anyone clarify what exactly was the cause of this? Monaghan had they thought was a nailed-on sponsor but it fell through and they couldn't find a replacement?