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Estonia at home first?
Correct.
Lost 2-0 in the Faroes and 4 times altogether in the group.
Could Dare Vrsic be the Slovenian Gary Mackay?
happy days
Gladly take that draw...now to qualify!!!..
Two words, lads: MORAL COMPENSATION!
Yes according to Irwin and joe, if Bosnia and Turkey win those two ties, we stand a small chance of getting 3rd seeds at the Euros.
Provided we beat Estonia that is.
It must be said that it's very likely the Estonian's are dancing in the streets with this outcome too. Must treat them with the utmost respect and ensure we don't stuff it up.
It's pretty much a dream all round. Trying not to get carried away, still a job to be done. But very exciting.
If we can't win this tie we don't deserve to be anywhere near Poland/Ukraine next summer.
Have take the 16th of November off. Get in!
booked out the friday back sunday 170 return.
So where do we prefer Poland or the Ukraine?
The last time we were this confident about our chances we were playing Wales in the Q/F of a World Cup.
Dream draw though, no excuses whatsoever if we can't negotiate this one.
Have the month of the tournament booked off as well. Was going to do it anyway whether we got there or not.
right, happy days! now to sort my grant out, the grant people actually are retarded I swear to god
i have a couple of fit estonian friends unortunately they live in london :)
Delaney caught laughing at the draw all over youtube
You absolute infantile bolix!!
Give us strength
I'll take any pot!
Mouth watering ties ahead if the squad don't get complacent. Score draw over there and stumble over the line at home. It won't be pretty but the finishing line is in sight.
Current Seeds*:Quote:
Originally Posted by Irwin3
Pot 1: Ukraine, Poland, Spain, Holland
Pot 2: Germany, Italy, England, Croatia**
Pot 3: Russia, Greece, Sweden, Denmark
Pot 4: Portugal**, France, Czech Rep**, Ireland**
*Based on current Co-efficients
**Assuming progression
The first 3 in Pot 1 are guaranteed, due to being hosts or holders.
Jackpot:
Ukraine
England
Denmark
Ireland
Pispot:
Spain
Germany
Russia
Ireland
According to your working, my dream draw would be Poland, Croatia and Greece (or even Sweden). England would be fun mind but wouldn't fancy Denmark at all.
Everyone always wants to draw Greece, and they always qualify. Why?
Decent team but I'd still fancy my chances against them more than the Danes. Greece unbeaten in qualifying but in one of the easier groups imo, while Denmark topped a tough group. They strike me like Romania in 1990 - similarly obdurate, similarly beatable (ie by the skin of our teeth).
Denmark blow hot and cold, depending on what day it is. Greece keep coming back to progress and defy the pundits.
Progress? They haven't made a World Cup since '94 and got zero points as defending champs in '08. Hot and cold indeed. The Danes still appear far more potent. Their qualifying campaign looks the more impressive for who they played.
Not dismissing Greece here, but they're no great shakes. I'd fancy us to beat them, would be less confident against Denmark.
Greece qualified for South Africa, and topped their qualifying group against Croatia, who are a very strong side. Denmark topped their group, but having home advantage against Portugal on the last night was a major factor in that.
You're right on the World Cup - completely forgot Greece were in that. They had a fairly poor tournament then too though, only points came against a Nigeria team who were dominant until getting a man sent off.
Denmark appear to me a team on an upswing, Greece not so much. Croatia, for instance, are a decent side but most onlookers would suggest they're not the team they were four years ago, bit too reliant on Modric it appears. Portugal and Norway (despite yesterday's friendly defeat) are stronger group opponents than Croatia and Israel imo. Just feels like the Danes would be the stronger team, but agree to disagree.
Well "fairly poor" is relative really. It's still more than what we have done in recent campaigns. Yet again, the other seeds will want to get Ireland. If we get the nightmare draw as I posted earlier, we'll be doing well to get points too.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
If we can avoid Spain / Holland in Pot 1 and Germany in Pot 2 then we've got a fighting chance against everyone else IMO .
The standard of teams at Euro 2012 :eek:
Any of around 12 of the 16 teams would fancy their chances.
If Portugal beat Bosnia on Tuesday they will go into the third pot creating an even more nightmarish group:
Spain
Germany
Portugal
Ireland
Poland, England and Greece would give us half a chance of progressing.