I agree, but as a byproduct - we'll need him supplying Keane and Doyle with better quality ball first and foremost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I agree, but as a byproduct - we'll need him supplying Keane and Doyle with better quality ball first and foremost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I don't think we did play rubbish. I thought we played very well in parts, just didn't get the goals we might have had. We played poorly in parts too, but we're Ireland not Spain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Lawrence missed two great chances, Kilbane could have scored another header and Doyle had a nailed on penalty - dead certain. Central midfield underperformed, no question. Green just didn't cut it and Whelan was playing cautiously. For the first time in yonks we actually scored some "telegenic" goals. Keane's in particular was very well crafted & executed.
I watched the highlights again last night, professional performance that can definitely be improved upon but certainly not rubbish. Nation of beedin' moaners methinks.
Kinda bored and there's nothing on TV, so I checked out the attendance records for Andorra's 2010 campaign on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FI...;_UEFA_Group_6
Turns out only England had a higher attendance for their home game against Andorra, and only the stadiums with a capacity of 9000 and 16873 had a higher percentage attendance
Puts the attendance on tuesday night into perspective. Opposition like Andorra will always struggle to attract a large crowd. Still, never let the facts get in the way of a good argument.Code:Date Home Result Away Attendance Capacity %Full
20/08/2008 Kazakhstan 3-0 Andorra 7700 25057 30.73
14/10/2008 Croatia 4-0 Andorra 14441 38293 37.71
06/06/2009 Belarus 5-1 Andorra 8500 9000 94.44
10/06/2009 England 6-0 Andorra 57897 90000 64.33
05/09/2009 Ukraine 5-0 Andorra 14870 16873 88.13
07/09/2010 Ireland 3-1 Andorra 40283 51700 77.92
Certainly not doubting that Andorra's appeal is miniscule in comparison to that of Europe's powerhouses and even the FAI statement today proudly announced how Tuesday night's attendance was the third-highest in all of the qualifiers taking place within the UEFA zone that night. I assume the argument you're referring to is the one about extortionate ticket prices and the related (?) number of empty seats visible in the stands? Fact is, if tickets had been more reasonably-priced, the game could have sold out. I can speak for myself in that I was contemplating travelling to the game bar me being in no position to fork out €50 for a match ticket alone. I'm sure others were in a similar situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Furthermore, if we're to look at this fairly from all perspectives, it must be acknowledged that this wasn't just any match against Andorra. Whilst Andorra mightn't be expected to draw a sell-out crowd under normal circumstances, no matter where they visit, you would expect the appeal of the game having been the first competitive international taking place in the new stadium to have added a certain flavour of significance or momentousness to the occasion. No doubt, on this front, it was a special occasion for those who attended, but there were plenty of seriously interested others shut out of the experience by the price of entry.
So the game against us was their best away result in at least 2 years?
(I'm guessing more...)
They lost 1-0 to Cyprus last month.
.............(place name of minnow here) will be a handful for the other teams, as the group evolves.
Looking at highlights again, was I hearing music being played when the goals were scored?
You know, some tune for the crowd to sing along to as happens at Burnley games (and other clubs which I can't specify right now).
Or when a goal is scored, do they let the fans make their own noise?
I think we have to accept the financial reality that the new stadium needs to be paid for, and that gate receipts at Lansdowne Road are the main revenue stream supporting grass roots football in this country. 51,700 tickerts sold at €50 each nets the FAI €2,585,000. 55,000 tickets sold at €35 only brings in €1,925,000. Financially the FAI got the pricing pretty much perfect, and got the best return possible from a fixture like Andorra.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I'm not sure you've got the figures right.Quote:
Originally Posted by backtowalsall
The Aviva holds 50,000 at capacity. Attendance on Tuesday was 40,000.
Out of this you can take the 10,000 premium seats, which are priced differently, and the 2,000 or so (?) kids tickets, which are significantly cheaper.
That leaves 38,000 normally-priced tickets.
The FAI say they've sold about 7,000 premium tickets, while the Indo says they've sold around half as many. For the sake of clarity, I'll take the mid-point and assume that 5,000 of Tuesday's attendance were premium ticket holders.
40,000 - 5,000 - 2,000 kids tickets = 33,000
So 33,000 of the 38,000 general admission tickets were sold at €50, or 86%. That's a gross take of €1.65 million from a possible €1.9m.
To generate the same take from the full allocation, general admission tickets would need to have sold for about €43.
That's probably not much to travelling fans, but to people in Dublin it could easily be the difference between buying a ticket and not buying a ticket. Add in that an extra 10,000 people would boost the take on concessions and it has to be considered a missed opportunity.
Like I said before, though, there's more to pricing football tickets than the particular appeal of that one match. To get the full picture, you'd need to analyse the taking across all five (possibly six) qualifiers to see if they've gotten it right or wrong.
edit: I just remembered that there were two bands of prices: €50 and €70. As far as I know, there's no breakdown of how well those sold, so it's difficult to factor it in. I'll have a look later to see how many seats were on sale in each bracket and try to update the figures, but the general principle above holds.
yes, been doing it for years. complete tacky and needless. why not let the fans just celebrate themselves??Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
no brainer that the one time you definately dont need to jazz things up is after we score!! this and the complete eejit pa that we have to endure actually kill atmosphere. could never work out why anyone ever thought music after goals would actually add to the atmosphere
Who is that dude on the PA? His voice simply isn't suited to hype a game up or even talk about it in any way. God knows how he got the job.
http://declanking.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by MeathDrog
Basically he would not be a problem for us if the morons who think he does a good job, did not hire him.
Hahaha that's the worst designed website i've seen in 15 years!Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Indeed. His voice reminds me of that character in the Simpsons with the high pitched voice that carries out all of those menial jobs like the Drive Thru, petrol pump attendant etc etc. "Keep watching the Ski's!!!"Quote:
Originally Posted by MeathDrog
Am I the only person on here who thinks he does a decent job?!
id say so. any reason why you think he does a decent job??Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
he is dreadful in my opinion. just awful really
I find his voice soothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
here, one of these classics should keep you soothed...Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
http://declanking.com/narration.htm
seriously? He sounds like your least favourite uncle DJ'ing at his kids 18th trying desperately to fit in with the young people
I'd like to give you a big Aviva Stadium (the new home of Irish football) thumbs down for that one!Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Bumping thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPIY1DAokEI
Closed thread.