2009 Cup Final - Mid and Post-mortem

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23/11/2009, 11:44 AM
R�iteoir

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Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

Some LOI fans are the biggest hypochrists iv ever come across.:rolleyes:

Some LOI fans are Under Jesus? :confused:
23/11/2009, 11:54 AM
WoodquayBoy

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Originally Posted by sligofan4ever

SKY+'d the match last night and watched the goals and other main talking points of the match, I was in the North Stand when the penalty was given, and I still stand by what I said, that wasn't a penalty. . .

Thought it was harsh myself, but SF were denied one, and possibly 2, penalites in the first half (the handball and the trip that was given as outside the box).
But yeah, Kelly was unlucky to be penalised for that, clearly moved in direction of ball, and was lookeing at ball, while Zayed went other way and I'd suggest Zayed's momentum carried him into Kelly, rather than Kelly fouling him
23/11/2009, 12:20 PM
sheao

It was harsh on Sligo, they thought they had it won and probably played better overall imo. But credit must be given to Fingal, they played until the very end and got what they deserved. Great progress has been made by Fingal, a premier divison club after 2 years of existance and they will be in europe next season aswell. I have a feeling they could do fairly well in the premier next seaosn with many of their players with plenty of premier division experience.
23/11/2009, 12:56 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by The Lep

You do realise that makes no sense :D

Makes perfect sense.

A club in limbo that isn't even sure if it'll be in the league next year has more support than the club that's just won the cup.

Not sure what you're struggling to grasp there....? :confused:
23/11/2009, 12:58 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by The Lep

Your point being?

Rudimentary comprehension really isn't your strong point, is it....? ;)
23/11/2009, 1:04 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by weecountyman

Steve, this is ridiculous - do you think Wexford Youths would exist without Mick Wallace, and if he were to go in the morning stil be going? And as for "genuinely building up" Fingal are working in the community with local clubs and making a massive effort to develop a support base, as any new club should do. Plaudits due where they are!

The difference being that Wallace could have paid good money for a series of league journey-men and then fast-tracked success in front of a handful of fans at home games

Instead he chose to go for the more sustainable slow-build mode

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Originally Posted by weecountyman

The deterioration of this thread is exactly the reason why our league is dying on it's knees, jealousy, small mindedness and fear.

On the contrary, it's just indicative of the inability of Fingal fans to appreciate that their club is driving towards a French under-pass Lady Diana stylee - despite everyone pointing out the unsustainability of the club's model.

If a number of clubs with much bigger fan bases can still end up mired in financial crisis, then read the writing on the wall regarding your own.
23/11/2009, 1:16 PM
razor

Penalty was extremely harsh, Anders got the call wrong in my opinion.
Keeper stood his ground, ball was going away from Zayed, Zayed didn't touch the ball and ran into the keeper who stood his ground.

Felt especially sorry for Conor "Evil" O'Grady, didn't realise he was suspended til I read the paper yesterday.
23/11/2009, 1:34 PM
marinobohs

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Originally Posted by razor

Penalty was extremely harsh, Anders got the call wrong in my opinion.
Keeper stood his ground, ball was going away from Zayed, Zayed didn't touch the ball and ran into the keeper who stood his ground.

Felt especially sorry for Conor "Evil" O'Grady, didn't realise he was suspended til I read the paper yesterday.

Clumsy more than intentional by the keeper but thought it was a penalty to be honest. Must say I thought Kelly did well as ref yesterday, he kept the game flowing and did not chase the limelight (as has sometimes previously occurred)
23/11/2009, 2:09 PM
dfx-

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

For everything else in life there's Mastercard...

...except Derry's debts... *sets it up*

Fingal deserved their win though it probably wasn't a penalty but I'm sure it is made all the sweeter by the epic bitterness by I'm guessing Shels and Sligo fans.
23/11/2009, 2:11 PM
MMVIII

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Originally Posted by dfx-

...except Derry's debts... *sets it up*

Fingal deserved their win though it probably wasn't a penalty but I'm sure it is made all the sweeter by the epic bitterness by I'm guessing Shels and Sligo fans.

A bit like ye're biterness towards us with Bohs winning the league:rolleyes:
23/11/2009, 2:24 PM
sligofan4ever

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Originally Posted by ARooney28

A bit like ye're biterness towards us with Bohs winning the league:rolleyes:

Ah yes, apparently it was our fault they didnt win the league :rolleyes: was it our fault they drew 1-1 with Galway ? some probably still agree with that :rolleyes:
23/11/2009, 2:56 PM
dfx-

Unfortunately for Sligo, Rovers didn't lose the league because of Sligo. We had already lost it against Cork. Sorry :)
23/11/2009, 3:07 PM
SligoBrewer

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Originally Posted by The Lep

Swords wednesday night. open top bus etc.

Open top bus. LOL. Who'll be there admiring? You and Lamper:confused:

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Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

Not true my friend. I was involved in selling them (IN RUSH i might add). The FAI called the tickets back on Friday. I had to bring the remaining tickets back or the club would be charged for every ticket not accounted for. So if we bought all our allocation from the FAI and where giving them away, then why did we have to give them back or risk being charged for them?

I call horse********, I met 3 fans yesterday on the Luas who were talking about the tickets they had recieved through their letterbox. Strawberry can confirm this.
23/11/2009, 4:04 PM
ndrog

one of best mates works for fingal county council , i asked him to get me a ticket . I was expecting a freebie tbh ;) but got a shock when he asked me for � 25 , he said there was no freebies whatsoever :confused:
23/11/2009, 4:08 PM
total hoofball

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Is it really amazing though ? The clue is in the fact that a club with next to no support week-in week-out manages to have the likes of Eamon Zayed, Stephen Paisley etc on its books. I wonder how they managed that.....?

So no - it's not amazing. It's money. And it's an unsustainable club that bears an uncanny resemblance to the Dublin City experiment. Granted - Fingal are making genuine efforts to tap into their locality, but it takes years to build-up a fan-base for a football team. I doubt Fingal's friendly property backer will continue to throw money at them until they do.

Compare Fingal to Wexford Youths and you'll see the difference between a new club that is genuinely building-up slowly and one that is just using someone else's money to try to fast-track that which can't be expedited. It's difficult to see anything other than a car crash in Fingal's future at some point.

The 'M1 Dons' car crash is already in motion......

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...256257376.html

http://www.irishexaminer.com/busines...ojkfmhcw/rss2/

http://www.tribune.ie/business/news/...on-against-ga/

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...d-1920908.html

http://www.thepropertypin.com/viewto...p?f=50&t=23751

I shudder to think from whom Gerry Gannon has been recieving the finance to fund Fingal County Council F.C. over the past 12 months
23/11/2009, 4:58 PM
rovers100%

well done to fingal and their fans, best of luck next year, we will be looking for revenge in the showgies :p
23/11/2009, 5:36 PM
The Lep

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Originally Posted by blackholesun

If they can afford to blow 1000s every week on wages then it no surprise to me that they can afford to pull this stunt. If Fingal couldnt give away tickets for the Cup final, they what hope have they got? People dont value or appreciate anything they get for free. Fingal are only cheapening themselves with stunts like this.

bhs

Pity that it isnt true.
23/11/2009, 5:38 PM
The Lep

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Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie

I'll have to stop you there and ask you to stop lying. A good friend of mine from Rush, North County Dublin, rang me on Friday night asking me did i want some free tickets for the cup final, he'd about 30 he was trying to get rid off. Turns out the club bought the allocation and gave the tickets away for free, again. So if YOU paid for your ticket more fool you.

I feel sorry for the few Sligo fans who couldn't get their hands on a ticket.

You friends with the tooth fairy and santa as well?
23/11/2009, 5:45 PM
The Lep

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Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie

So are you calling me a liar then? Why would i lie, i've no reason to make that up, it's exactly what happened. Now Lamper, i don't know if you are from Rush or not but it's a small enough place and if you are i'd say you'd know the person who offered the ticket to me. He'd be well known in Rush and if you want to PM me, i'll tell you his name. No bloke at the end of the bar crap, as i said i'll name him if you want.

Oh and i'm a Shels fan.

Shels fan? that explains a lot of your posts :rolleyes:
23/11/2009, 5:55 PM
The Lep

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Makes perfect sense.

A club in limbo that isn't even sure if it'll be in the league next year has more support than the club that's just won the cup.

Not sure what you're struggling to grasp there....? :confused:

[QUOTE=dcfcsteve;1280797]Our club doesn't even exist any more, and yet we still have dramatically more fans than your fabricated franchise..... :D

How can a club that doesnt exist have more fans than anyone? how can you support a team that doesnt exist :)
23/11/2009, 6:00 PM
SligoBrewer

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Originally Posted by The Lep

Shels fan? that explains a lot of your posts :rolleyes:

That one was most probably correct Lep. What has he to gain from telling lies?
What have I to gain by saying the same thing as HB?

We wouldn't be making this up for the craic.
23/11/2009, 6:03 PM
HarpoJoyce

Went to the game yesterday, picked up a ticket from the Umbro Store an hour before kick-off.

Fair Play to all the fans who withstood the weather 'til the end, for me that was the biggest credit of the day.

Though Fingal had the best of the first half and could have got more from the penalty appeals to Alan Kelly. But of the rain is in your hair, that's very distracting.
For Sligo's first goal it looked like a Sporting defender handled the ball on or over the line before pushing it onto the inside of the post? Maybe Maher?

Enjoyed the second half, as predicted on this forum both sides tried to play football even though the weather was horrible.

Liked the mats in the technical area.

Best moment, UCD AFC (1984) coming out at half-time to the applause of the crowd.

I learnt that Liam Buckley is an Official Sporting Fingal Legend!!!
23/11/2009, 6:35 PM
Dunny

Some rant there...!
23/11/2009, 6:45 PM
Pauro 76

Deleted it for obvious reasons.
23/11/2009, 8:03 PM
Hairy Bowsie

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Originally Posted by The Lep

You friends with the tooth fairy and santa as well?

Go away, the big boys are talking son.

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Originally Posted by The Lep

Shels fan? that explains a lot of your posts :rolleyes:

Really? What posts are they? The 2 in this thread because i'll explain them if requested, as i stated to Lamper. Me being a Shels fan won't help in explaining them at all.
23/11/2009, 8:05 PM
bennocelt

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Originally Posted by Dunny

Some rant there...!

damn missed it
23/11/2009, 8:08 PM
Pauro 76

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Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie

Go away, the big boys are taking son.

Less of the trolling please. Keep it on topic folks.
23/11/2009, 9:49 PM
HarpoJoyce

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Originally Posted by Dunny

Some rant there...!

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Originally Posted by Pauro 76

Deleted it for obvious reasons.

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

damn missed it

bennocelt
Oh Thank God! I thought it was my own post the other two were talking about.
23/11/2009, 10:46 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by The Lep

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Our club doesn't even exist any more, and yet we still have dramatically more fans than your fabricated franchise..... :D

How can a club that doesnt exist have more fans than anyone? how can you support a team that doesnt exist :)

Very easily - as you well know.

Meanwhile - how can you support a team that was only pulled out a County Council-owned magician's hat 2 years ago....? :p
23/11/2009, 10:48 PM
The Lep

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Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

That one was most probably correct Lep. What has he to gain from telling lies?
What have I to gain by saying the same thing as HB?

We wouldn't be making this up for the craic.

I beg to differ.
23/11/2009, 10:50 PM
The Lep

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Very easily - as you well know.

Meanwhile - how can you support a team that was only pulled out a County Council-owned magician's hat 2 years ago....? :p

Are you for real? So you support a team that doest exsist? do you all sit looking at an empty field imagining the match?
23/11/2009, 10:56 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by The Lep

Are you for real? So you support a team that doest exsist? do you all sit looking at an empty field imagining the match?

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you really are that stupid, so I'll explain.

The season is finished. No clubs are playing at the moment.

When the next season starts, hopefully we'll be in the league again. If not, then we should be back after a year or so.

But as no LOI teams are playing any football at the moment, there's none to watch.

And even if Derry fans were staring at an empty field imagining a match, it'd still be preferable to being Fingal players staring at an empty stand and imagining a crowd....
23/11/2009, 10:56 PM
stamullendrog

genuine question for the fingal fans i heard there were a fair few kids team down on fingal tickets so in short two parts to this 1 is it true(i know of at least one team of u10's there cos i work with that teams manager so dont say none)and 2 if it is true did the kids or their clubs pay for the tickets or were they freebies?

actually second part of that leads me on to a general question,are you allowed give away freebies for a cup final??
23/11/2009, 10:58 PM
The Lep

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Originally Posted by marinobohs

Clumsy more than intentional by the keeper but thought it was a penalty to be honest. Must say I thought Kelly did well as ref yesterday, he kept the game flowing and did not chase the limelight (as has sometimes previously occurred)

Thats what i thought as well, it was an unlucky penalty to give away but maybe it it was justice done after sligo got away with a penalty in the first half. I though the ref had a good game as well, and wasnt card happy. Boco was good down the wing as well and it could have been diffrent if raf hadnt gone off.
23/11/2009, 10:58 PM
Hairy Bowsie

They weren't free as such. The club payed for them and then gave them away free, and handed back what they couldn't give away.
23/11/2009, 10:59 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by stamullendrog

genuine question for the fingal fans i heard there were a fair few kids team down on fingal tickets so in short two parts to this 1 is it true(i know of at least one team of u10's there cos i work with that teams manager so dont say none)and 2 if it is true did the kids or their clubs pay for the tickets or were they freebies?

actually second part of that leads me on to a general question,are you allowed give away freebies for a cup final??

Rows of kids in the stands identical tracksuits were occasionally visible on TV. So either North Dubliners have an extremely homogenous fashion sense or there were youth teams there.

As for giving tickets away for free - you could roll them up into a big spiff and smoke 'em to your hearts content, so long as you gave the FAI the money for them.
23/11/2009, 11:00 PM
stamullendrog

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Rows of kids in the stands identical tracksuits were occasionally visible on TV. So either North Dubliners have an extremely homogenous fashion sense or there were youth teams there.

As for giving tickets away for free - you could roll them up into a big spiff and smoke 'em to your hearts content, so long as you gave the FAI the money for them.

i suppose what i was getting at really was did fingal take a hit to make it look like they brought a good crowd
23/11/2009, 11:08 PM
The Lep

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Originally Posted by stamullendrog

genuine question for the fingal fans i heard there were a fair few kids team down on fingal tickets so in short two parts to this 1 is it true(i know of at least one team of u10's there cos i work with that teams manager so dont say none)and 2 if it is true did the kids or their clubs pay for the tickets or were they freebies?

actually second part of that leads me on to a general question,are you allowed give away freebies for a cup final??

I dont understand your first question,. NDSL teams got allocations of tickets to sell, how they sold them i dont know.
There was a good few kids teams at the final as i could see but i cant tell you whether they were given free tickets or they bought from their allocation.
Maybe the kids that played the half time penos might have got free tickets for themselves but i wouldnt know for sure.

second question,
I cant see why you cant give away freebies for a final if you bought the tickets in the first place. It would be like me giving away a ticket i didnt want and not charging for it.
23/11/2009, 11:11 PM
The Lep

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Originally Posted by stamullendrog

i suppose what i was getting at really was did fingal take a hit to make it look like they brought a good crowd

No, i wouldnt think so but if they did then it may have worked in our favour after the win if our home attendances ( not taking in the away fans ) are a lot higher next year.
23/11/2009, 11:12 PM
Lamper.sffc

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you really are that stupid, so I'll explain.

The season is finished. No clubs are playing at the moment.

When the next season starts, hopefully we'll be in the league again. If not, then we should be back after a year or so.

But as no LOI teams are playing any football at the moment, there's none to watch.

And even if Derry fans were staring at an empty field imagining a match, it'd still be preferable to being Fingal players staring at an empty stand and imagining a crowd....

Now you have said your piece. Feel better? Lets move on.

What an end to our season. Cheers for any of the compliments lads. Its nice for a change.

Im sure sligo fans feel a bit down after what happened, I know it would have killed me. Fair play to your singing section who stayed well after it was necessary, to cheer your team

On a different note. What a great manager yous have. Seen his interview today. He is a credit to your club. No bitterness from him and no excuses. Great to see. Honesty in a sport that has been knocked for it this week. At least its still alive in our little but great league.

Our two clubs put on a good show and it was a good advertisement for the league.

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