Cork City Financial Discussion

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22/02/2009, 9:32 PM
Celdrog

As big Ian, that well known Drog once said "I'd need photographic evidence to believe you"
22/02/2009, 9:33 PM
political_rebel

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Originally Posted by Celdrog

As big Ian, that well known Drog once said "I'd need photographic evidence to believe you"

And like Big Ian...your not gettin it :D...
22/02/2009, 9:36 PM
Celdrog

Spoken like a true shinner.....
22/02/2009, 10:34 PM
corkboy360
Quote:

Originally Posted by micls

Give it a rest corkboy. You're wrong

Ok mic

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Originally Posted by political_rebel

This is great crack to be honest :D...

Never knew so many people from Longford and Drugheda were so up to date with the financial workings of CCFC...It is quite amusing really to read some of the info from 'reliable sources' within the club...

Believe me when I tell you that those 'reliable sources' know nothing about the day to day running of the club...Everyone down here knows who they are, there are 2 so called 'reliable sources' and none of them are even involved in the club...

How can anyone from Drogheda or Dundalk seriously ask where CCFC are getting money to sign new players and keep a straight face :D...

The facts are as follows and people can try and twist them inside out and upside down but the facts remain the facts...

1. No Player under contract when the club came out examinership is owed money...

2. The license being provisional had nothing to do with financial issues...

3. No cheque issued by the club has ever bounced...

4. Since the new owner took over all players, staff and employess of the club have been paid on time to date...

Now I will let ye all get back to your rumours...
1. Gareth Fatbelly?
2. Alan Matthews?
3. Darragh Ryan?
:p
22/02/2009, 11:01 PM
political_rebel
Quote:
Originally Posted by corkboy360

Ok mic

Gareth Fatbelly?
Alan Matthews?
Darragh Ryan?
:p
Farrelly was not under contract when the club exited examinership...
Mathews is not a player...(he has paid anyway)
Ryan...Paid in full...
22/02/2009, 11:12 PM
corkboy360

Quote:

Originally Posted by political_rebel

Since the new owner took over all players, staff and employess of the club have been paid on time to date...

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Originally Posted by political_rebel

Mathews is not a player...(he has paid anyway)

Paid out full on his whole contract.
22/02/2009, 11:47 PM
El-Pietro

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Originally Posted by corkboy360

Paid out full on his whole contract.

thats a legal issue not a licensing one

if the courts decide he is owed money then he will be paid

as of now, we dont actually owe him anything or have come to an agreement to pay back what is owed

backpay and compensation are two clearly different issues

why cant you see that?

re: fai sponsoring a game, they definitely did, i could check the match programmes but they are upstairs, it wasnt shamrock rovers though, we played them at home in may i think, the fai sponosored a game after we went into examinership
23/02/2009, 8:14 AM
gufct

Lawrie Dudfields name came up on Sunday Sport yesterday as well.
23/02/2009, 9:26 AM
A face

Quote:

Originally Posted by seablue

Where are you getting your information from? Or is it just speculation and rumour like everyone else on here???????

Come on tell us what makes you so informed?

Can you do likewise? Where are you getting your information from? You are posting your opinion here as if it is fact, can you tell us how you have the ability to do this?
23/02/2009, 9:35 AM
Dodge

Didn't the FAI clearly state that Cork's licence was provisional on some financial grounds?
23/02/2009, 9:43 AM
Rovers Maniac

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Originally Posted by A face

Can you do likewise? Where are you getting your information from? You are posting your opinion here as if it is fact, can you tell us how you have the ability to do this?

To be fair to the other poster A face he asked you first !
23/02/2009, 10:46 AM
A face

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Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac

To be fair to the other poster A face he asked you first !

I can only say its on very good authority, where as SeaBlue i haven't a clue where he is getting his info and he is very wide of the mark. So on that ground i asked the same of him, which is only fair as SeaBlue will agree.
23/02/2009, 10:53 AM
pineapple stu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge

Didn't the FAI clearly state that Cork's licence was provisional on some financial grounds?

The word "provisional" isn't used, but it's implied.
23/02/2009, 11:08 AM
Rovers Maniac

Quote:

Originally Posted by A face

I can only say its on very good authority, where as SeaBlue i haven't a clue where he is getting his info and he is very wide of the mark. So on that ground i asked the same of him, which is only fair as SeaBlue will agree.

The bottomline is you can't prove it A face !
23/02/2009, 2:03 PM
A face

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac

The bottomline is you can't prove it A face !

I cant, no, but i was not asked.
23/02/2009, 3:18 PM
corkboy360

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Originally Posted by El-Pietro

thats a legal issue not a licensing one

Where in my post does it mention the word "licensing".:confused:
23/02/2009, 3:23 PM
Dodge

Presume a face changed the thread title?
23/02/2009, 3:53 PM
El-Pietro

Quote:

Originally Posted by corkboy360

Where in my post does it mention the word "licensing".:confused:

it doesnt matter

he isnt owed any money at this moment in time

he wont be owed money unless and until the courts say he is owed money
23/02/2009, 3:55 PM
A face

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Presume a face changed the thread title?

Nope, didn't go near it
23/02/2009, 3:56 PM
corkboy360

Quote:

Originally Posted by El-Pietro

it doesnt matter

he isnt owed any money at this moment in time

he wont be owed money unless and until the courts say he is owed money

Of course they will.
Keep living in the fantasy world "where everything is grand";)
Cork City FC will not have a leg too stand on in court.
23/02/2009, 4:01 PM
El-Pietro

Quote:

Originally Posted by corkboy360

Of course they will.
Keep living in the fantasy world "where everything is grand";)
Cork City FC will not have a leg too stand on in court.

where did i say everythign is grand

you are an idiot

i said that right now

legally

we dont owe matthews a penny

when he takes us to court the judge will decide what we owe him

until then we dont owe him anything

you should try reading the posts you are replying to
23/02/2009, 4:41 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by A face

Nope, didn't go near it

Well done, proud of ye
23/02/2009, 4:43 PM
A face

El-Pietro and CorkBoy360, you are just grating off each other now. You both think you're right. We'll wait and see wht happens. Chill out now, maybe take a break from this thread.
23/02/2009, 8:40 PM
corkboy360

Moderation: Some text removed

Now I shall take a break from this thread as A face has told me too.
23/02/2009, 8:53 PM
Scrufil

The owing of money to people can be viewed in a different way. In the case of Cork City I'm not sure what this means but I do know for another club it can mean to schedule a payment scheme to a player who is owed money. Once the agreement is in place and is seen to be acceptable by the FAI then the condition of payment can be that the first installment be lodged, paid and then recorded by the FAI and all parties in question by a certain date. This should satisfy the licence. All players can, under the rules, be owed money but once an agreement is in place between player and club then the player can move freely along and the club falls within the licence terms.
28/02/2009, 7:40 AM
Celdrog

Cork fans rumouring on their own forum that wages were not paid this week. Can't accuse anyone else on these latest rumours.
Surely not true?
28/02/2009, 7:46 AM
Buile Shuibhne

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.....However, further difficulty could lie ahead for the Leesiders after it emerged that the existing squad did not receive their month's wages as scheduled on Wednesday, and were last night looking for answers from the club who cited clerical issues for the delay.

While it is understood that the money is on the way, PFAI secretary Stephen McGuinness and FAI Compliance Officer Padraig Smith are set to travel to Cork next week to discuss concerns over some outstanding matters with City owner Tom Coughlan.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...n-1656902.html
28/02/2009, 8:51 AM
Smurf1

Uh oh!

It's a conspiracy i tells ya!!:rolleyes:
28/02/2009, 9:10 AM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by Smurf1

Uh oh!

It's a conspiracy i tells ya!!:rolleyes:

Nope just a dodgy owner in place thats all.
There was me thinking everyone knew those rubber cheque books were just kids toys. Someone should tell Coughlan soon before he makes a fool out of himself.
28/02/2009, 9:29 AM
Cosmo

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Originally Posted by Smurf1

Uh oh!

It's a conspiracy i tells ya!!:rolleyes:

Do ye not know Alan Matthews started that rumour on langerweb and also writes under the alias of Daniel McDonnell in the Independent?
28/02/2009, 10:55 AM
Dodge

Very worrying for Cork. This week was the week they had to sort out their "financial" provisions under licensing, and co-incidentally the players weren't paid.

It really does seem like Cork are going week to week with money. I'm sure home games coming up will help but a bad run of form and a dip in gates could really, really hurt them
28/02/2009, 11:13 AM
Bald Student

Should Finn Harps be getting ready for a shock promotion?
28/02/2009, 11:31 AM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by Bald Student

Should Finn Harps be getting ready for a shock promotion?

Followed by a swift relegation again?
28/02/2009, 11:34 AM
Bald Student

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Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

Followed by a swift relegation again?

I think there could be a niche position in this league for clubs that stay promoted through others going bust.
28/02/2009, 11:46 AM
Rovers Maniac

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Originally Posted by A face

Which player was it? What hospital was it? Where are you based and where was the player?

You have to give a source for this one man, or it gets deleted.

I think this post is a spoof, prove me wrong.

I heard a rumor from a cork City as well A face, like i state it is a rumor but he is well connected in Cork.
28/02/2009, 12:03 PM
A face

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac

I heard a rumor from a cork City as well A face, like i state it is a rumor but he is well connected in Cork.

From another site

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This month a new pay system was installed...wages are now paid by electronic transfer and not cheques...maybe thats where the clerical error came from?...

How did cheques bounce when they weren't even used this month? I smell a rat, so i still stand by that the rumour needs proved by Billynomates
28/02/2009, 12:08 PM
Rovers Maniac

Quote:

Originally Posted by A face

From another site

How did cheques bounce when they weren't even used this month? I smell a rat, so i still stand by that the rumour needs proved by Billynomates

I heard it from a big Cork fan in Dublin, i know your mod on here and i don't want to get into a argument with you as you are clearly very defensive about the whole thing. So i think we should accept your thinking until we see the other paper of "record" in Ireland (The Times) coming out with a story.
01/03/2009, 12:48 PM
Poor Student

The Star on Sunday is carrying a story about Cork failing to pay the players. It mentions the electronic system but says they still weren't paid.
01/03/2009, 1:18 PM
MickNolan

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Originally Posted by Poor Student

The Star on Sunday is carrying a story about Cork failing to pay the players. It mentions the electronic system but says they still weren't paid.

Looking at it myself!
01/03/2009, 1:26 PM
Buile Shuibhne

I get get paid by electronic transfer as do a lot of people.

The money goes into my account at 12.01 am on the designated date.

Once or twice their might be an administrative or clerical glitch - but once the company and bank are notified it's usually resolved later that day or the next day at the latest.

According to reports the Cork players were due to be paid last Wednesday and reports on Friday said they still hadn't been paid by then.

There are no 'clerical issues' at fault here by this stage.

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