CL knock out stage

Printable View

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

12/03/2009, 10:13 PM
Closed Account 2

The only Arsenal penalty that really impressed me was Kolo Toure where he raced in from virtually the center circle and pinged it low into the corner. I think that approach is the best way for a non specialist to take a penalty, just lash it low hard and fast, that way - assuming it's on target - the keeper has to get a fair bit of his body behind it to stop it. I feel a bit sorry for Eduardo, he jittered to try and see which way Doni would go but the Roma keeper didnt commit himself - and he lost all momentum when it came to striking the ball as he'd paused his run up.

Of Roma's takers I thought Montella (right in the corner) Aquilani and Baptista (given his treatment by the crowd) hit good kicks.
13/03/2009, 9:07 AM
OwlsFan

Don't remind me about keepers going the wrong way for penos. I will never forget Given going the wrong way for all 5 in Korea :(
13/03/2009, 9:22 AM
Pike B

Quote:

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Don't remind me about keepers going the wrong way for penos. I will never forget Given going the wrong way for all 5 in Korea :(

Ya, what was that about?? I really fancied he'd stop a few. Oh well, he's still class.
13/03/2009, 1:45 PM
Closed Account 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Don't remind me about keepers going the wrong way for penos. I will never forget Given going the wrong way for all 5 in Korea :(

To be fair with Mendieta's he came so close to flicking it over with his shin...
I always think it's best if a keeper stays pretty central for penalties especially in shoot outs where, as you start getting down the order, the kickers are less and less set piece specialists.

If a keeper stays upright as long as possible he can try and see which way the ball is going, if it's either slow, or not right in the upper corners, he should be able to get something on it. Also shoot outs are where big keepers (physically tall etc) come into their own, Buffon, Der Saar, Kahn, Dida* all have big frames and all are good at saving PKs.

*Granted Dida is pretty crummy at conventional keeping...
13/03/2009, 1:50 PM
Steve Bruce

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo

To be fair with Mendieta's he came so close to flicking it over with his shin...
I always think it's best if a keeper stays pretty central for penalties especially in shoot outs where, as you start getting down the order, the kickers are less and less set piece specialists.

If a keeper stays upright as long as possible he can try and see which way the ball is going, if it's either slow, or not right in the upper corners, he should be able to get something on it. Also shoot outs are where big keepers (physically tall etc) come into their own, Buffon, Der Saar, Kahn, Dida* all have big frames and all are good at saving PKs.

*Granted Dida is pretty crummy at conventional keeping...

Van Der Sar has never won a penalty shoot out competition when it's mattered until last seasons CL final.

He is woeful at penalties. But in general your point stands up. Pepe Reina is good at pens as well.
13/03/2009, 2:12 PM
Stuttgart88

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo

To be fair with Mendieta's he came so close to flicking it over with his shin...
I always think it's best if a keeper stays pretty central for penalties especially in shoot outs where, as you start getting down the order, the kickers are less and less set piece specialists.

If a keeper stays upright as long as possible he can try and see which way the ball is going, if it's either slow, or not right in the upper corners, he should be able to get something on it. Also shoot outs are where big keepers (physically tall etc) come into their own, Buffon, Der Saar, Kahn, Dida* all have big frames and all are good at saving PKs.

*Granted Dida is pretty crummy at conventional keeping...

Cech has a poor record in shoot outs.

Apparently Niall Quinn was superb at it.
13/03/2009, 8:11 PM
DeLorean

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

Van Der Sar has never won a penalty shoot out competition when it's mattered until last seasons CL final.

Not true. Holland v Sweden Euro 2004.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

He is woeful at penalties.

Ok this didn't really matter but still impressive enough. Hardly woeful anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXtiWM20O0M
14/03/2009, 1:45 AM
NeilMcD

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarelyLegal

Not true. Holland v Sweden Euro 2004.

Ok this didn't really matter but still impressive enough. Hardly woeful anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXtiWM20O0M

Ha ha classic fair play barely legal.
14/03/2009, 10:46 AM
Neish

When is the draw for quater finals?
14/03/2009, 2:38 PM
Closed Account 2

friday 20th lunchtime, same time as uefa cup draw.
14/03/2009, 3:01 PM
Mr Maroon

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo

Also shoot outs are where big keepers (physically tall etc) come into their own, Buffon, Der Saar, Kahn, Dida* all have big frames and all are good at saving PKs.

I'd say penalties are Buffon's only weak area. He saves relatively few considering how good he is overall.
14/03/2009, 3:46 PM
Closed Account 2

He did alright in Euro 2008, saved from Mutu in normal time (the only regular penalty saved in the competition) and from Gueiza in the shoot out vs Spain. He saved Kaladze and Seedorf in the 2003 Champions League final...
20/03/2009, 10:19 AM
The Good Son

Villareal v Arsenal
Man.Utd. v Porto
Liverpool v Chelsea
Barca v Bayern

Semi's 1v2 & 3v4
20/03/2009, 10:28 AM
RonnieB

Handy draw for Utd, Liverpool vs Chelsea for the 10,000th time...
20/03/2009, 10:31 AM
reder

Villareal v Arsenal
Man. Utd v Porto
Liverpool v Chelsea
Barca v Bayern
20/03/2009, 2:25 PM
Shilts

ManU to beat Arsenal in the semi
Liverpool to beat Barca in the other semi

Liverpool to beat ManU in the final... and then I woke up :D
20/03/2009, 2:32 PM
DmanDmythDledge

Barca to beat Man Utd in the final.
20/03/2009, 2:51 PM
Shilts

Quote:

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Barca to beat Man Utd in the final.

I'd be happy with that :D (ManU to lose) but I think the winner of the Chelsea/Liverpool tie will be too strong for the Catalans
20/03/2009, 3:02 PM
Pike B

Man Utd are the poxiest shower of @uck�ng @astar&s this side of the moon...

Talk about your handy draw.

Liverpool have it all to do.
20/03/2009, 3:03 PM
Shilts

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pike B

Man Utd are the poxiest shower of @uck�ng @astar&s this side of the moon...

Talk about your handy draw.

Liverpool have it all to do.

100% agree
20/03/2009, 3:17 PM
OwlsFan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pike B

Man Utd are the poxiest shower of @uck�ng @astar&s this side of the moon...

and who are the poxiest shower of @uck�ng @astar&s on the other side of the moon?;)
20/03/2009, 3:36 PM
Pike B

Quote:

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

and who are the poxiest shower of @uck�ng @astar&s on the other side of the moon?;)

Moon United Fc... :p
20/03/2009, 10:15 PM
Denis The Red

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pike B

Man Utd are the poxiest shower of @uck�ng @astar&s this side of the moon...

Talk about your handy draw.

Liverpool have it all to do.

Oh, boo hoo, uefa are not fair, the fa are not fair, nobody likes us....:rolleyes:
It's called luck of the draw, glad Man. U didn't an english team because it would be tougher, naturally, but that's the way it goes, and I wouldn't bitch about it if we did, get over it.
Besides didn't big head gerrard brag last week after the Utd game that they now feared no one.
And apart from Sporting Lisbon, the scousers got the worst team in the last round.
20/03/2009, 10:19 PM
Pike B

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denis The Red

Oh, boo hoo, uefa are not fair, the fa are not fair, nobody likes us....:rolleyes:
It's called luck of the draw, glad Man. U didn't an english team because it would be tougher, naturally, but that's the way it goes, and I wouldn't bitch about it if we did, get over it.
Besides didn't big head gerrard brag last week after the Utd game that they now feared no one.
And apart from Sporting Lisbon, the scousers got the worst team in the last round.

You typify exactly why everyone hates United fans.
21/03/2009, 12:23 PM
NeilMcD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pike B

You typify exactly why everyone hates United fans.

Not at all I think his response was pretty fair to be honest. I don't hate Man Utd fans and I actually find that Irish Liverpool fans are more unbearable to be honest. So you are wrong to say that everyone hates United fans. My brother actually works with a lad who supports Leeds and he hates Liverpool more than Man Utd purely due to their Irish fans. I think that if Man Utd go 18 years without winning the league the ones who have been kids during the last 17 years will be unbearable too.
21/03/2009, 12:27 PM
gustavo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pike B

You typify exactly why everyone hates United fans.

I couldn't care less about them , and he also made valid points
26/03/2009, 5:58 PM
irishultra

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciaran

Winner of Barca v Bayern to win the whole thing I reckon.

on what basis? i just don't see it(bayern that is) even if they beat barcelona. van bommel and ze roberto are not exactly the most athletic of midfielders and I can see them being overun very easily.

Sure they manage to give away chance after chance domestically, what hope have they got in the final stages of european competition. Rensing, Lucio and whoever else plays beside him, not sure if its normally meant to be van buyten or demechellis is not good enough for me. way too fragile.
26/03/2009, 6:25 PM
Weatherman

we can go on all day saying who's gona beat who! long story short, the champs league is coming back to OT!
26/03/2009, 9:09 PM
Denis The Red

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weatherman

we can go on all day saying who's gona beat who! long story short, the champs league is coming back to OT!

Amen, along with the Premierleague;)
27/03/2009, 10:37 AM
Weatherman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denis The Red

Amen, along with the Premierleague;)

Amen to that too!!
27/03/2009, 12:10 PM
old git

[QUOTE=NeilMcD;1126795]Not at all I think his response was pretty fair to be honest. I don't hate Man Utd fans and I actually find that Irish Liverpool fans are more unbearable to be honest. :mad:

would have to agree with you 100% irish pool fans unbearable at times. :ball:
07/04/2009, 9:00 AM
reder

Quote:

Originally Posted by old git

would have to agree with you 100% irish pool fans unbearable at times. :ball:

Now, now, behave yourselves. No need for that kind of talk. We are all god's children.

Anyhoo, it all kicks off again tonight. United v Porto and Villareal V Arsenal. Ill go for 2-0 to United since they will have most of their first team back and 1-0 to Villareal.

I tipped Villareal to beat Arsenal over 2 legs when the draw came out but after watching Arsenal since the draw, im not so sure. Could end up with 3 PL teams in the CL semis.

An english club will win it. I have no doubt about that.
07/04/2009, 10:45 AM
Denis The Red

My line up for the rest of the tournament: United v Arsenal, scousers v Barca.
Man U V Barcelona final.
07/04/2009, 11:15 AM
shakermaker1982

Man Uts should see off Porto (poor form or not) and I'll be hoping Villareal can beat Arsenal.

A Man Utd-Barca final would be a lovely game of football to watch.
07/04/2009, 12:57 PM
reder

Lads Barca will not beat Liverpool over 2 legs. Liverpool will strangle the life out of them and nick a goal or 2 due to Barca's shaky defence. Whoever comes out of the Liverpool V Chelsea tie will make the final.
07/04/2009, 1:03 PM
irishultra

tie of the round is bayern vs barcelona. should be a cracker. its on setanta ireland yes?
07/04/2009, 1:51 PM
Roadend

Arsenal match is on Setanta I think, Barca-Bayern will be on Sky
08/04/2009, 9:29 AM
lionelhutz

It was great to see an average european team go to Old Trafford and play without fear. I haven't seen that in a long time. They were very good going forward, a little suspect at the back but they really took the game to United. It just shows what a team can achieve if they show a little courage.
08/04/2009, 9:33 AM
OwlsFan

Well, they are in the last 8 of the Champions League, so they can't be that "average". Unbeaten for 15 games or more I think.
08/04/2009, 9:46 AM
DeLorean

They might not be average but I was expecting United to win this tie with something to spare. They'll be doing very well to make it through now and I personally don't think they will.

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

All times are GMT. The time now is 8:22 PM.