North Wales police "anti-Irish Racism" Ahead of Bohs Rhyl Clash

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Originally Posted by NavanBohs

I wouldnt comment on something you dont know about :rolleyes: 2 out of 3 of our group were wearing jerseys and walked 15 minutes through the town centre to our hotel from the train station at about 1pm, and all other fans on the same train did too, and not a word was said to us, apart from a couple of friendly comments from locals...

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Grand, that just proves that this Bohs Anti-Irish thing was an even more over the top reaction than it looked originally. Cheers for that info

Also...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgbFfvGykfU&e

0:08 - "Wrexham supporters and a gang of local troublemakers" according to this.

edit: Incese you'd completely ignored posts by Bohs fans on this, as the first page states, the "no Irish" thing originated from Rhyl fans on a Rhyl message board.

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

It also casts a shadow on some of the assertions above that seek to minimize Bohs hooligan problem.

Presumably, assuming the guards know who they are, these people couldn't have been denied permission to leave the country due to the Common Travel Area between Ireland and UK?

I've said it before but I think Bohs would get a lot more sympathy if they acknowledged the problem, said they had taken all the steps they could to ban the people from Dalymount and inform other clubs of the identity of those who are banned (see previous thread on the lad who sought the judicial review).

Arranging to meet up with hoolies from another club because you can't find anyone from the club you're playing to fight with isn't reflective of a small problem IMHO.

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I wasnt in Rhyl but have spoken to several Bohs fans who were and they informed me that Denis Maher, a Bohs director stood outside the ground and pointed out who was banned from Dalymount in the hope they'd be refused admission to the ground but the cops ignored him.

What more can be done if away club/security dont want to know?

All Denis Maher got for his troubles was threats from the people who he pointed out to the cops are troublemakers.

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Originally Posted by Louth4sam

Rovers and Bohs are the only ones with adult hooligans. I know we have a lot of idiots following our club but i couldnt imagine them organising a fight in a foreign country.

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Grrr etc.

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Originally Posted by NavanBohs

Also...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgbFfvGykfU&e

0:08 - "Wrexham supporters and a gang of local troublemakers" according to this.

edit: Incese you'd completely ignored posts by Bohs fans on this, as the first page states, the "no Irish" thing originated from Rhyl fans on a Rhyl message board.

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And was pushed by Bohs fans on this board. I certainly didn't pick up on a Rhyl message board and would have happily gone through life never knowing about this 'no Irish' nonsense if it hadn't been posted here for us to read

Dodge? Did you see that video? Any comment?

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Originally Posted by NavanBohs

Also...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgbFfvGykfU&e

0:08 - "Wrexham supporters and a gang of local troublemakers" according to this.

edit: Incese you'd completely ignored posts by Bohs fans on this, as the first page states, the "no Irish" thing originated from Rhyl fans on a Rhyl message board.

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That bloke is one of the worst presenters/news readers I've ever heard.

By the way, who was the Wrexham and local troublemakers fighting with?

Was there was BSC fighting in the town centre?

You boys are tough work. I think most people agree that the utmost majority of Bohs fans are good football supporters. But there is an element of scum that also follow you.

Don't get offended when people mention it. I can understand why it would be embarrasing though. I'd be devestated if those neanderthals claimed to follow my club.

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Originally Posted by sligoman

Yes, have you ever heard of sarcasm?

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Is that what that was supposed to be?

Looks to me like you have the web version of liking your own voice......

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Originally Posted by cheech

By the way, who was the Wrexham and local troublemakers fighting with?

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I suggest that each other seems as good a fit as any, unless the information as provided is being interpreted by someone with an agenda.

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Originally Posted by cheech

Was there was BSC fighting in the town centre?

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Couldn't say. If you see any evidence of that anywhere amidst the feverish rantings on the red and black hooligan peril here, or anywhere else, would you be so kind as to point it out?
Best thing one can say about this thread is that mud sticks, regardless of the facts.

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

If you see any evidence of that anywhere amidst the feverish rantings on the red and black hooligan peril here, or anywhere else, would you be so kind as to point it out?

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"6 were Irish":
http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=972594&postcount=50

You are totally right about the 'Mud Sticks' thing tho.



This is all really stemming from the scuffles around Dorset St AREA recently after matches. I know some of the people involved (inlaws are from there) - a bunch of teenage louts (not 'big enough' to call scumbags tbh) who think they enjoy having a fight on a Friday night. They have no real affiliation with Bohs. Those they fight also know what they are doing - they come into the area for that purpose too.

As for the mindless damage they do (like stoning the bus) - that just shows how pathetic their lives are.

I do know that one of them used to play for the Bohs underage set up a few years ago (may still do), but in general they have no real link with the club (eg: he is a Man U 'supporter')

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Originally Posted by CuanaD

"6 were Irish":
http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=972594&postcount=50

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And where did he 'apparently' get that from?
As for Dorset St, I was led to believe that this thread concerned industrial-strength 'adult' hooligans.
The half-truths and the 'apparentlys' switch according to the identity of the accuser, yet the slur remains.

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Originally Posted by bohs til i die

I wasnt in Rhyl but have spoken to several Bohs fans who were and they informed me that Denis Maher, a Bohs director stood outside the ground and pointed out who was banned from Dalymount in the hope they'd be refused admission to the ground but the cops ignored him.

What more can be done if away club/security dont want to know?

All Denis Maher got for his troubles was threats from the people who he pointed out to the cops are troublemakers.

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Fair enough. Not much more the club can do.

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Fair enough. Not much more the club can do.

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There isn't in fairness and I don't think the main criticism on this thread has been directed at Bohs as a club. There's a lot more the fans can do than try and stir up a bit of anger among us towards authorities just doing their job though

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

And where did he 'apparently' get that from?

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No idea

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

As for Dorset St, I was led to believe that this thread concerned industrial-strength 'adult' hooligans.

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Again, I don't know, but I'll find out if any of those 'younger louts' traveled. Either way, the younger louts are contributing to the perception of Bohs, as they are getting media exposure, while the locals (including their own families of course) complain about the 'rioting'
- NB: its never been rioting, never more than minor skirmishes with minor property damage such as car mirrors & odd stones through windows - a VERY SMALL NUMBER of innocent bystanders have got a kicking, but thankfully no one has been seriously injured AFAIK.

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

The half-truths and the 'apparentlys' switch according to the identity of the accuser, yet the slur remains.

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Yes, true and I know I'm adding to it without meaning to.

Its like sh1t on a shoe, they have attached themselves to the club & its always difficult to scrape the buggers off.

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Originally Posted by CuanaD

...- NB: its never been rioting, never more than minor skirmishes with minor property damage such as car mirrors & odd stones through windows - a VERY SMALL NUMBER of innocent bystanders have got a kicking, but thankfully no one has been seriously injured AFAIK...

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I thought one of the bus stonings had resulted in a serious eye injury for an innocent bystander? Perhaps I'm confusing some other incident.

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Originally Posted by CuanaD

- NB: its never been rioting, never more than minor skirmishes with minor property damage such as car mirrors & odd stones through windows - a VERY SMALL NUMBER of innocent bystanders have got a kicking, but thankfully no one has been seriously injured AFAIK.

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Didn't some Shels teenager lose an eye after getting jumped by the BSC? Could be wrong about it being the BSC but it was schooligans associated with one of the Dublin clubs

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Originally Posted by jebus

Didn't some Shels teenager lose an eye after getting jumped by the BSC? Could be wrong about it being the BSC but it was schooligans associated with one of the Dublin clubs

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That turned out to be unsubstantiated rumour AFAIK

and just a note the BSC are not Schooligans they are a small group of fully grown Ignoramuses. The BSS are the little scroats that have caused most of the trouble/skirmishes in the last couple of years

Welsh police criticised

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Welsh police criticised

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thanks for the link BD - it would appear that no Bohs fans were involved and that this was down solely to Wrexham and Rhyl gangs.

It seems that Denis offered security info to away clubs (AGAIN) and it was ignored.

Yeah, Bohs are doing nothing to solve this hooligan "crisis". People on here need to cop the f*ck on and apologise for cheap point scoring over NOTHING.

How can posters b*tch over negative reporting on the league or scant league coverage when all they want to do is bring the reputation down further themselves on this messageboard through fabrication and rumour. The small mindedness of a few of the fans here disgusts me.

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Welsh police criticised

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So, there were NO BOHS supporters involved at all!


That's great to hear & we should be telling anyone who will listen


"600 went to Rhyl, started NO trouble, enjoyed the hospitality of the Rhyl fans & the great result, & came home happy & looking forward to the next round(s)" (Ignoring the police attitude because it is now fairly obvious that they were on alert for no good reason) this now sounds like a GOOD NEWS story for the league :ball: