Those mongos in the corner also started the "Ole Ole" about ten minutes in too. They should be shot for that.
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Those mongos in the corner also started the "Ole Ole" about ten minutes in too. They should be shot for that.
I remember in one of the last games in Landsdowne they were in far corner of the north terrace signing sone song about how they hate England and then started to sing "vindaloo, vindaloo, vindaloo" which is sung by...the English.:D
If it was Daniel McDonnell he regualrly read this site afaik.
that ****ing brass band do nothing but interrupt and destroy embryonic chants. at crucial times when the stadium is pretty quiet, the brass band start structureless tootling stoping any decent chants. sure, occasionally they started chants and songs, but if that is the fai response to a singing section its pretty ****. an actual number of singers and chant leaders is what is really needed.
of course, an organised singing section of fans can start lots of different types of chant (aka 'delaney out) and we all know the fai's view on 'freedom' of expression.
Can't we get signs put on the wall in front of that immature crew...saying "Starting a Mexican Wave is an arrestible offence punishable by being sent to bed early without a story";)
I know that here in Germany the hardcore fans have a couple of lads with megaphones who stand at the front of the crowd and start all the chants and everybody follows suit. Would or could this work at Ireland matches (maybe more so away matches as the die hard Irish fans are mostly together then but spread out for home games)? Thats just an idea from my side. That would soon put pay to the Mexican wave if a section of the stadium refused to continue the wave cos they were too busy singing.
Ohhhhhhhhhh the dreaded wave. The evil of it.
Maybe someone was trying to pass their pints of harp around the stadium to their friends.
Anyone see the German fans in the Big Tree with the megaphone. They had a few good chants/songs. Certainly put us Irish fans in our place.........'Come on you boys in green' etc etc
At the end of the day - We are rubbish at supporting.
How many fupping times can you stand up for the boys in green. Ireland clap clap clap. [Yawn]
And then we have the nerve to criticise a gang of 10 year olds for trying to create some atmosphere with a mexican fupping wave at what is probably most of their first time at a game with their schools/clubs.
We need to wake up and get off our high horses.
Before anyone starts. I'm not a barstoolers, premiership adoring couch potato who has never been to an Eircom League match. I havent missed an international game since I started going, actively run a football club, manage a schoolboy side and regularly attend Eircom league games. For the last two internationals I brought two bus loads of kids to the game and they had the time of their lives despite the result.
Maybe theres one or two people around here that might take a leaf out of their book. ;)
I have noted that even in German league football they seem to have a a wide variety of chants! Some of them actually seem to be quite intimidating, which is one of the purposes of chanting/singing, i.e. some songs are to support the team, others are to intimidate the opposition.
It seems that as time goes by the repertoire of songs sung by Irish fans is diminishing. It is quite difficult to have any degree of coordination among fans as we are spread to the four corners of Croker. If we were all located in adjacent sections then we could probably introduce new songs by organinsing on fan sites before the game and then get the song sung by a decent number of fans. Alas, without a singing section this seems like a pipe dream, as a poster mentioned this is unlikely now that Delaney knows that he will bear the brunt of any negative chanting or singing.
Are you telling me that in the run up to Euro 88 and Italia 90 when our repertoire was at its best, we coordinated singing sections. FFS. We need to wake up and accept some responsibility.
The problem is the fans ourselves. Instead of embracing, we priss and moan about the lad sitting beside us cause :
- hes wearing a leprechaun hat
- hes doing a mexican wave
- hes singing a different version of a chant
- hes wearing a celtic jersey
- he doesnt attend Eircom league games
- he has a sky sports subscription
- he doesnt know the national anthem
- he didnt stand up for stand up for the boys in green
Results aside, thats left us in the place where we are now. 2 chants and 40,000 moaners at every game. From the best to the worst supporters in Europe. Sad. Supporters me grAss.
I agree with all you've said Blobbyblob.
I dont get involved in the Mexican Wave but I have no problem with it. I'd prefer a bit of life in the stadium than the eerie silences.
That is a fair point, there probably wasn't any coordination going on then, however, at the moment the atmosphere can be quite staid. I am just making a suggestion as to how I think we can address the issue, this to me seems like trying to take some responsibility and come up with ideas for improving the atmosphere. Any suggestions that you have yourself are more than welcome
I agree there is a certain degree of elitism from some fans when it comes to how people should behave at a match. I am no fan of the mexican wave at matches unless we are cruising. The reasoning is that a mexican wave seems more like an acknowledgement to us the fans than actually supporting the team.
Personally, I wear a leprechaun hat on occaison.
A gross generalisation there! I think that the current regime and results have a part to play in the morose demeanour of the average fan.
The problem with Croker is that the fans are too far away from the pitch really (especially if you are in the Canal End or Hill 16 ends of the pitch) so theres not much chance of really getting an atmosphere going. You need to be close to the action. I know stadiums with running tracks around them usually dont create much of an atmosphere (the only exception in my life was the Marakana in Belgrade where I was there supporting Red Star (jersey and all) and I was still intimidated by the atmosphere). So what Im saying is that Croker may as well have a track around it due to the distance the fans are from the action and that doesnt help the cause.
And you know what - thats exactly the kind of thing that will put a smile on peoples faces at a game and lifts the atmosphere.
Have to say I smiled when i heard a blast of "were on the one road " from the back of the canal end at the Germany game. Said to myself things are looking up.
Once again. we cant blame Croker.
It wasnt a problem when there was a great atmosphere at the Slovakia game so it shouldnt be at any other.