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28/07/2007, 7:14 PM
OneRedArmy

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Originally Posted by pete

The eL has been improving in recent seasons. Armerian has not. The eL gained more ranking points last year than Armenia have in the last 5 years. Thats the size of the gap. Derry City do get credit for not being as bad as Drogs ;)

Good to see Drogs fans unable to defend their teams performance. By having a go Cork City ye seem to have forgotten Drogs gained its their first ever Uefa ranking points the previous season.

:rolleyes:

Much of the ELs improvement has been proved as financially unsustainable.

Shels, Cork and last year Derry have been responsible for most of the coefficient improvement. Shels have imploded, Cork's side has been broken up and sold (and lost to Swedish opposition for the 1st time in 4 years for an EL side) and Derry whilst having a similar side have not been able to afford the professionalism of the Kenny era.

The quality of the EL is not as high as in previous years and is more reflective of what level of football is realistic given poor revenue and small attendences.

Disappointing but true.
29/07/2007, 5:50 PM
Celdrog

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Originally Posted by pete

Good to see Drogs fans unable to defend their teams performance. :rolleyes:

Pete, we arent even attempting to defend our performace. We were hopeless, simple as that.

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Originally Posted by pete

By having a go Cork City ye seem to have forgotten Drogs gained its their first ever Uefa ranking points the previous season.
:rolleyes:

I was having a go at GavinZac for his usual snide comments and reminding him that we are finally contributing something to the co-efficicent, something which Cork did not do this year, hence the stupidity of having a pop at us. Hence the word "some" before the word "langers"
31/07/2007, 12:10 AM
higgins

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Originally Posted by Cymro

The Armenians will probably be seeded next year Pete. They were among the higher non-seeds. Obviously it depends on what they do in the next round and beyond.

Be honest now
did you just make that up ?

I can't see any situation where the Armenians are seeded in next seasons Champions League QR1 draw. They would need so many results that they would end up in the Champions League/UEFA group stages before they got them!

Drogheda win brings us to 0.833
Pats I hope can pull off a draw, it's not impossible. Thats takes us to 1.000 and I'd be happy enough going into Round 2!

Would Drogheda take points off any of these ??

Blackburn Rovers Eng 36.618
OB Odense * Den 15.129
Standard Li�ge Bel 14.594
V�lerengen IF * Nor 11.509
Dunfermline Athletic Sco 10.064
FC Midtjylland * Den 9.129
AaB Aalborg Den 7.129
Fredrikstad FK Nor 6.509
SK Brann Bergen * Nor 6.509
Lillestr�m SK * Nor 6.509
AIK Stockholm * Swe 4.478

* If they win through the first round
31/07/2007, 12:18 AM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by higgins

Would Drogheda take points off any of these ??

Blackburn Rovers Eng 36.618
OB Odense * Den 15.129
Standard Li�ge Bel 14.594
V�lerengen IF * Nor 11.509
Dunfermline Athletic Sco 10.064
FC Midtjylland * Den 9.129
AaB Aalborg Den 7.129
Fredrikstad FK Nor 6.509
SK Brann Bergen * Nor 6.509
Lillestr�m SK * Nor 6.509
AIK Stockholm * Swe 4.478

* If they win through the first round

They would have a good chance against Dunfermline. Decent chance against the lower teams there as well.
31/07/2007, 5:40 PM
Kingdom

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

They would have a good chance against Dunfermline. Decent chance against the lower teams there as well.

Was thinking myself they'd have an even chance with any of the teams from Dunfermline down.
31/07/2007, 6:03 PM
pete

I think ye are getting ahead of yourselves as Drogs have 2nd leg to get past. :o
01/08/2007, 10:03 AM
Torn-Ado

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Originally Posted by robbiesdrogs

im not been over ambitiotous but i reckon with the way the draw is going the day is coming where an irish team draws whatever team from england goes intertoto and beat them.seen blackburn a few times last year and they werent great at all.add in the seasons not kicked off and a suprise could happen

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im not been over ambitiotous

Yes you are. You're in dreamland.
01/08/2007, 10:30 AM
Jerry The Saint

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Originally Posted by higgins

Blackburn Rovers Eng 36.618
OB Odense * Den 15.129
Standard Li�ge Bel 14.594

Puts Pats task in a bit of perspective :eek: Oh well, I hear the beer is good over there. :D
01/08/2007, 10:46 AM
Torn-Ado

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Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint

Puts Pats task in a bit of perspective :eek: Oh well, I hear the beer is good over there. :D

Tuborg. Damn fine.

Carlsberg wouldn't lace its boots.

:D
01/08/2007, 11:27 PM
higgins

Shels Cork Bohs and Derry have upset the seeds in previous years.
Why not Pats ?

If you're serious about winning leagues and making progress in europe then the likes of Odense shouldn't hold much fear. They're better and they probably will win through but it's not Deportivo, Steau or PSG you're up against.

I think we may see a close game tomorrow.
Irish teams in the past few season have all managed to raise their game when required. Fingers crossed...
02/08/2007, 2:49 PM
DmanDmythDledge

Quote:

Originally Posted by higgins

Would Drogheda take points off any of these ??

Blackburn Rovers Eng 36.618
OB Odense * Den 15.129
Standard Li�ge Bel 14.594
V�lerengen IF * Nor 11.509
Dunfermline Athletic Sco 10.064
FC Midtjylland * Den 9.129
AaB Aalborg Den 7.129
Fredrikstad FK Nor 6.509
SK Brann Bergen * Nor 6.509
Lillestr�m SK * Nor 6.509
AIK Stockholm * Swe 4.478

* If they win through the first round

FC Midtjlland are losing 3-2 to Icelandic after the first leg and Lillestrom were knocked out by some Luxembourg team. Just shows that teams there are nothing to be afraid of.
02/08/2007, 3:31 PM
TonyD

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Originally Posted by higgins

Shels Cork Bohs and Derry have upset the seeds in previous years.
Why not Pats ?
I think we may see a close game tomorrow.
Irish teams in the past few season have all managed to raise their game when required. Fingers crossed...

Fingers and toes. Hour and a half to go, and it's just been confirmed to me that it's definietly on in McDowells via the internet. If you're a Pats fan reading this, get yourself down there. I'm much more hopeful than optimistic TBH, but you just never know.....
02/08/2007, 6:53 PM
pineapple stu

Both Lithuanian teams through with wins.

Zimbru are out after a draw today. Nistru losing on the night and on aggregate. If it stays that way, then a win for Drogheda tonight and one draw in the second round would see us no worse than 34th (assuming no-one catches us, which is unlikely). That's up one place on where we started.
02/08/2007, 7:32 PM
pete

5 games down & no wins this season :(

Real step backwards this season.
02/08/2007, 7:36 PM
sligoman

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Originally Posted by pete

5 games down & no wins this season :(

Real step backwards this season.

It's obvious this summer season isn't improving things and last season was just a fluke...back to the winter!:p
02/08/2007, 9:48 PM
pineapple stu

Update.

Moldovan team won on the night but lost on penalties; forgot they had another team still in it. 34th a possibility, but at least we won't be going backwards and will still be seeded for the CL next year, and probably a similar situation with regards the UEFA as for this year, unless Derry get in.
02/08/2007, 10:51 PM
DmanDmythDledge

Dunfermline or Fredrikstad would be the two best teams for Drogheda to get in the next round as they are living off their countrie's co-efficient.

Will Drogheda have their own co-efficient next season?
02/08/2007, 11:18 PM
Big Ears

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Dunfermline or Fredrikstad would be the two best teams for Drogheda to get in the next round as they are living off their countrie's co-efficient.

Will Drogheda have their own co-efficient next season?

Club coefficient is only earned from the proper stages onward so unless they get to the 1st round at least and get a result there then no .
03/08/2007, 12:17 AM
higgins

Bad night for the coefficient. We are placed 7th out of 13 countries in the Northern Section of the UEFA Cup Qualifying Round 1. Chances are that Sweden Finland and Norway will grab the fair play places as they have done for the past few seasons and move both Irish teams to the unseeded section.

We needed to pass out Lithuania and have failed to do that.
they have 1.333 to our 0.833 and have 2 teams left in it.

A good draw for Drogheda could give us a chance to catch them but it looks like we'll be back in the unseeded side next season.
Derry and Shels got results in the 3rd Round of european competitions in previous seasons so why not Drogheda to pull out two 2nd Round wins and a 3rd Round draw or two :)
03/08/2007, 12:38 AM
Celdrog

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Originally Posted by higgins

so why not Drogheda to pull out two 2nd Round wins and a 3rd Round draw or two :)

Unlikely becaue Doolin, the Board and the fans only care about the league this year.
Sorry, but don't hold out too much hope for the co-efficient this year. We've contributed 1.5 points so far. If we get Dunfermline we may contribute more.

By the way Stephen Kenny was at the match tonight looking worried;)

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