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Setanta should re-structure the prize-money etc, with points/wins/away wins whatever counting for more than just the pot at the end for winning it. Also payments for paticipating could be increased with penalties imposed for not fielding a full team.
Nothing really against Derry/Nutsy but it's good to see defensive tactics get their just desserts over the last two televised games. Well done L...no I just can't say it.
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Originally Posted by micls
- Greater goal difference.
- Most goals scored.
- Most away goals scored.
- Most points gained in matches between the clubs level on points.
- Greater goal difference in matches between the clubs level on points.
- Most goals scored in matches between the clubs level on points.
- Most away goals scored in matches between the clubs level on points.
- Best fair play record (1 point for each yellow card and 3 points for each red card received by players).
- Draw of lots.
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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Steve,
Barry Town won several ties in Europe during their reign of terror/brilliance (delete as applicable according to club loyalties). Highlights included drawing 3-3 with Aberdeen and beating Porto 3-1 both at Jenner Park. They were a very good side in their day.
Rhyl, Carmarthen, Llanelli all have won ties in the last few years. TNS probably would have by now with all the money pumped into them if they hadn't had to play Liverpool and Man City in that time.
Now I don't support those clubs as most of them are financially backed (paticularly Barry) but still credit where credit's due.
It's all well and good you and your mates saying the Eircom League is light years ahead of it but I don't recall that being the case on either of the occasions when our sides met your sides in Europe.
I think you're being very dismissive about the Longford-Carmarthen result. It happened and you can't ignore it and dismiss it like that. I honestly don't know how anyone can fluke a 5-1 win. 1-0, 2-0 or even 3-0 maybe, but not a 5-1 win.
Even supposing you're right and that was just a sheer flukey result. There was another meeting a few years back where Cork played Cwmbran. They only won on away goals, and that was in the inaugural season of the Welsh Premier. Standards have improved enormously since then.
Incidentally, what matches have you seen Steve? I saw the FAI final last year and I was impressed, but no way would I say it's miles ahead of what the top teams here are capable of. The bottom few teams are maybe different as we've got an 18 team league so top talent always tends to turn up at the top few clubs.
Ditto Rogue Trader-what teams do you watch as the teams in the Cardiff area are not the best.
Well we have more than the league to play for and after the weekend I will be able to weigh up our chances better.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
What you forgot to mention was the first leg score:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cymro
FC Porto 8-0 Barry Town
"Porto made wholesale changes for the second leg tie, with captain Jorge Costa the only survivor from the first leg and prime tormentors Deco and Pena not making the trip to Wales."
Weakened Porto side there 8-0 up on agg - a major factor in that win for Barry
Dungannon are in the cup semis so have a fair chance of getting in that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
What defensive tactics?Quote:
Originally Posted by TommyT
5 in midfield at home to Pats.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
That was a disgrace. The fans let him know that too. I don't think we will ever see that again at the Brandywell in a league or cup match again. We were outstanding I thought for periods on Monday. I hope Tidman can now help the defence on Friday with a solid defensive goalkeeping display. Onwards and upwards..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Agree that was a disgrace, but whats that got to do with Monday's match against Linfield was my point :confused: We played 4-4-2 and were anything but defensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I don't think Fenlon's teams have ever been defensive, they're just constrained by a rigid structure which doesn't afford them much atttacking latitude. He's become unshakably devoted to a style of play which is only half-evolved.
A bit like himself then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
Apologies Pat, I'm fully behind you :D
I'd assume the next team in the league would take part in the play-off in that case.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Or Pats, if we haven't already qualified.
Good luck to ye then:ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by SwiftsSupporter
Have to say, I've enjoyed watching Swifts in the Setanta the last couple of seasons - i hope you can qualify again, and then aim to go further next time.
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Originally Posted by Dodge
It's like Jimmy White in the Masters Snooker - as soon as he wasn't good enough to qualify they brought in a wild-card play-off so he'd have at least one game in front of the Wembley crowd.
Same deal with the Setanta - the tournament isn't secure enough to survive without the involvement of its greatest entertainers...
Hadn't thought of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
If the league cup winners have already qualified the play off should definitely be scrapped. Who would go to see it?
Makes it much more likely that the First division winners will play in the Setanta.
God knows how the Setanta cup limped throuhgh the last 2 years without St Pat's in it....!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
And thank God Shelbourne collapsed to get you in there this year ! I fear that it would all have collapsed without your massive crowds, and huge TV-drawing reputation...... :o
POTM.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Touché. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Réiteoir
The side still had Ricardo Carvalho in it though!