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16/03/2007, 2:58 PM
eirebhoy

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Originally Posted by galwayhoop

could just mean that he doesn't want to talk about other managers team selections

Well Keane certainly hasn't held back in saying that he feels Connolly, Miller and even Daryl Murphy should be in the squad. It's pretty clear to me he has his own beliefs as to why Connolly isn't included and he'd rather keep them to himself. ffs he joked last month that he wouldn't be suprised if Miller was ommitted because he was from Cork. :D
16/03/2007, 3:36 PM
geysir

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Are you serious I know its early days but it seem pretty clear even to the biggest anti Keane people that he has a fair better apptitude for managment than Staunton does. I think Keane was right he was not being drawn into it but yet made it clear that he feels his players merits a place in the squad.

Jaysus Neil :) Read my post more carefully, I support Stan 100% in his decision not to include Connolly. Full stop.
16/03/2007, 3:40 PM
lionelhutz

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Originally Posted by geysir

Jaysus Neil :) Read my post more carefully, I support Stan 100% in his decision not to include Connolly. Full stop.

Ya we know thats what you meant. But just out of curiousity, if we had to select the manager again, knowing what we know now, how many people would seriously choose stan before roy?
16/03/2007, 4:42 PM
tricky_colour

Stan would.
17/03/2007, 8:09 AM
Lionel Ritchie

So would the FAI ...and I'm no RK fan!!!
17/03/2007, 8:16 AM
Lionel Ritchie

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Originally Posted by The Legend

Agreed, Colin Doyle is definitely future No.2 ...

Doyle can play at full back?!?!?::confused:

He sounds as handy as a small pot. We could use a good utility man.

Stans logic, which he dutifully explained, as it pertains to the championship strikers should clear up and lingering debate as to whether or not the man is a rank fcuking idiot.
17/03/2007, 10:51 AM
brine3

Keano has another go: http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_...036029,00.html
17/03/2007, 11:16 AM
geysir

Some of Roy's least intelligent statements ever made.

"Are you're telling me there are better players on better form than Connolly and Miller?"

Yes Roy, for the Irish team there are a few.
17/03/2007, 12:01 PM
eirebhoy

Quote:

Originally Posted by brine3

Keano has another go: http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_...036029,00.html

My "conspiracy" was right! ;)

He's actually serious about the Cork thing though.:eek:
17/03/2007, 1:35 PM
theworm2345

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Originally Posted by geysir

Some of Roy's least intelligent statements ever made.

"Are you're telling me there are better players on better form than Connolly and Miller?"

Yes Roy, for the Irish team there are a few.

:rolleyes: :confused: Honestly, who is on better form than Connolly?
17/03/2007, 2:23 PM
Marked Man

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

He's actually serious about the Cork thing though.:eek:

Of course, Cork representation would have been higher over time if Keane had ever showed up for friendlies.

Is he mad, or what?
17/03/2007, 2:59 PM
stojkovic

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

My "conspiracy" was right! ;)

He's actually serious about the Cork thing though.:eek:

Should The Peoples Republic of Cork declare war on Louth.

If they invaded Louth where do we Dubs stand.

Comes done to accents I think, which is the worst, Cork or Drogheda.

Important issues.
17/03/2007, 5:40 PM
theworm2345

Goalkeepers: Given (Newcastle)--Did Not Play
Colgan (Barnsley)--Scored on 4 times, though Barnsley's site said he was powerless against it
Henderson (Preston)--Left on the bench

Defenders: McShane (West Brom)--DNP
Dunne (Manchester City)--Clean sheet
Finnan (Liverpool)--DNP
O�Dea (Celtic)--DNP
O�Shea (Manchester Utd)--Played Full 90, can't tell how he did, only mentioned once or twice
Kelly (Birmingham City)--DNP
Harte (Levante)--DNP

Midfielders: Kilbane (Wigan)--Full 90, seemed to have played well
Ireland (Manchester City)--Not in the squad
Carsley (Everton)--DNP
Douglas (Leeds)--Played full 90, but his name isn't mentioned once in Leeds report besides that
McGeady (Celtic)--DNP
Hunt (Reading)--Played full 90, but his name isn't mentioned once in Portsmouth or Reading's report besides that
A Quinn (Sheffield United)--replaced in the 68' during drubbing
Duff (Newcastle)--DNP
Gibson (Manchester United)--:rolleyes:

Forwards: Keane (Tottenham)--Unused sub
Stokes (Sunderland)--commentators said he didn't have much of an impact, was brought off in the 63'
Doyle (Reading)--Played 14 minutes, isn't mentioned once in Portsmouth or Reading's report besides that
Long (Reading)--Didn't make the squad
Folan (Wigan)--Got strechered off

Very encouraging :rolleyes: :o
17/03/2007, 7:06 PM
Paddy Garcia

Folan was the best player on the pitch before he was injured.

Some Man City reports suggest the win was due to Hamann being in instead of Ireland.
17/03/2007, 9:49 PM
co. down green

Folan has been replaced by Andy Keogh

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...k=view&id=1820
17/03/2007, 10:22 PM
theworm2345

I really can not understand how he deserves it over Morrison, Connolly, Lee, or Ward, but this is better than Stokes or Long.
17/03/2007, 10:43 PM
carloz

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Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

Some Man City reports suggest the win was due to Hamann being in instead of Ireland.

Finally im not the only one to realise the limitations of Ireland. Personally i feel he is ver average. Playing him would only work in a 3-5-2 system with two strong midfieldrs beside him. Never was this more evident than in Cyprus where him and Kilbane were totally played off the park in the centre of midfield. I see pure **** all reason why Ireland, who has been playing dreadful in a very poor City side deserves a place in the Irish squad ahead of Miller who is playng for very well for Sunderland who are cruising in the Championship. Players form should be taken into count just as much as the level they are playing at, Staunton obviously does not understand that
18/03/2007, 12:52 AM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

Some Man City reports suggest the win was due to Hamann being in instead of Ireland.

Hardly, Hamann played alongside Ireland last wednesday against Chelsea. Michael Johnson replaced Ireland, and is a similar attacking midfielder, but with more bite to his game.
18/03/2007, 11:55 AM
carloz

McShane is playing excellent today for West Brom against Birmingham today. He has just scored and got a player sent off when he was pulled down while through on goal. He is getting forward great but interestingly he is playing right back again, while new signing Sodje was put in the centre
18/03/2007, 2:02 PM
Qwerty

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Originally Posted by carloz

Finally im not the only one to realise the limitations of Ireland. Personally i feel he is ver average. Playing him would only work in a 3-5-2 system with two strong midfieldrs beside him. Never was this more evident than in Cyprus where him and Kilbane were totally played off the park in the centre of midfield. I see pure **** all reason why Ireland, who has been playing dreadful in a very poor City side deserves a place in the Irish squad ahead of Miller who is playng for very well for Sunderland who are cruising in the Championship. Players form should be taken into count just as much as the level they are playing at, Staunton obviously does not understand that

Ireland is a very good player but in a 4 man midfield I would play him on the right side, he would be ideal as the 3rd man in the center in a 5 man midfield.

I don't think you can afford the luxury of a player like Ireland in addition to 2 wingers. For goodness sake even Brazil have been using 2 destroyers in the center of the park for the past 15 years.

For the next 2 games Carsley must be partnered by Douglas/O'Shea/Quinn in that order of preference.

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