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06/02/2007, 3:37 PM
osarusan

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Originally Posted by pete

If we grew more trees in Ireland could build more timber frame hosues which are more environmentally sound as well as reducing timber imports. More supply means timber prices would drop too so cheaper houses.

The problem is that it will take a few years for that investment to pay off, if it ever does. I know my parents planted about 3,000 trees on our land about 20 years ago, under some government scheme which promised healthy profits, only to be told recently that there would be no profit at all, however the govt. would be willing to "take the trees off their hands".

And I think that, sadly, but understandably, people will need financial incentives to take the necessary steps to protect the environment.
07/02/2007, 7:10 AM
Macy

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Originally Posted by osarusan

The problem is that it will take a few years for that investment to pay off, if it ever does.

Sure you'd have a load of people campaigning to "save the trees" when it comes down to harvest them, as witnessed on the news last night. Coiltte starting to cut down the trees in the Dublin Mountains to sell on, and people giving out about the lose of amenity and scar on the landscape. I'm not sure they grasped why they were planted in the first place :rolleyes:
07/02/2007, 9:20 AM
pete

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Originally Posted by Macy

Coiltte starting to cut down the trees in the Dublin Mountains to sell on, and people giving out about the lose of amenity and scar on the landscape. I'm not sure they grasped why they were planted in the first place :rolleyes:

I presume they were of spruce variety or similar?

Reason not to listen to protestors....
07/02/2007, 10:14 AM
BohsPartisan

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Originally Posted by pete

Reason not to listen to protestors....

:rolleyes:

Jesus Pete, you find one case of unjustified protest and deduce that all protests are unjustified?
You truely are the master of straw clutching.
07/02/2007, 10:42 AM
NY Hoop

http://www.irish-forestry.ie

KOH
07/02/2007, 12:25 PM
pete

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Jesus Pete, you find one case of unjustified protest and deduce that all protests are unjustified?
You truely are the master of straw clutching.

:D

It really is...
07/02/2007, 12:37 PM
dahamsta

It is pete. Should I start ignoring your complaints about other WUMs on the site now?

Same rules apply to you as to everyone else. Knock it on the head or don't post in CA any more please.

adam
21/02/2007, 12:10 PM
NY Hoop

Government departments dont exactly play their part in all this. Lights left on, heat left on, cleaners spraying that air "freshener" crap around.

How can the government expect its citizens to behave responsibly to the environment when they waste so much?

KOH
21/02/2007, 1:39 PM
BohsPartisan

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Originally Posted by NY Hoop

Government departments dont exactly play their part in all this. Lights left on, heat left on, cleaners spraying that air "freshener" crap around.

How can the government expect its citizens to behave responsibly to the environment when they waste so much?

KOH

Good point.
If I'm last out of my section I always switch the lights off but you do see loads left on.
21/02/2007, 4:06 PM
pete

Its it more efficient to leave the lights on? Those bulbs have shorter shelf lift if they switched one and off...
21/02/2007, 4:42 PM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by pete

Its it more efficient to leave the lights on? Those bulbs have shorter shelf lift if they switched one and off...

Turning them off for the night, once a day, would hardly have much of an impact.
28/02/2007, 1:07 PM
Lim till i die

http://environment.guardian.co.uk/en...022934,00.html

Well, well, well, Al Gore and the $30,000 utilities bill

An Inconvenient Truth indeed :rolleyes:
28/02/2007, 1:13 PM
BohsPartisan

Saw that yesterday. Thats what the Green movement gets for making people like that spokespersons.
Next up, how Bono flew a hat around the world.
28/02/2007, 1:31 PM
dahamsta

He drives an SUV too, has to because of who he is. I drive a 525i BMW, it doesn't stop me caring about the environment; it just means I feel the need to enjoy myself in a way that's considered harmful, like smoking (I quit) or going to the pub (it feels like I've quit!). It's all about balance. I'd be willing to bet that my carbon footprint is still well below average. I'd be willing to bet that Gore's is too, for a man in his position. I wonder how much Bush consumes in his day-to-day life...

adam
28/02/2007, 1:33 PM
BohsPartisan

Bet Bono's isn't though.
28/02/2007, 1:36 PM
dahamsta

Yeah, but then Hewson is a muppet.
28/02/2007, 1:39 PM
jebus

Now now lads, Bono has single handedly saved Africa from itself, brought the Darfur genocide leaders to justice and made George Bush a pot of tea in the last few days alone, so I think he's entitled to destroy the enviroment as much as likes
28/02/2007, 6:36 PM
strangeirish

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Originally Posted by Lim till i die

http://environment.guardian.co.uk/en...022934,00.html

Well, well, well, Al Gore and the $30,000 utilities bill

An Inconvenient Truth indeed :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

He drives an SUV too, has to because of who he is. I drive a 525i BMW, it doesn't stop me caring about the environment; it just means I feel the need to enjoy myself in a way that's considered harmful, like smoking (I quit) or going to the pub (it feels like I've quit!). It's all about balance. I'd be willing to bet that my carbon footprint is still well below average. I'd be willing to bet that Gore's is too, for a man in his position. I wonder how much Bush consumes in his day-to-day life...

adam

A little clarification on the source of this story and a few facts that were conveniently omitted. Keith Olbermann setting the record straight.
05/03/2007, 10:03 AM
Lim till i die

http://www.channel4.com/science/micr...dle/index.html

Could be worth a look :confused:
05/03/2007, 10:28 AM
jebus

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Originally Posted by Lim till i die

http://www.channel4.com/science/micr...dle/index.html

Could be worth a look :confused:

Don't know, I was reading the preview for this docu yesterday and basically it was,

'Don't believe everything you see in a documentary, statistics can be used to prove/disprove anything........watch our documentary and get the truth, we use statistics to prove that global warming is a natural occurance'

sounds dodgy

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