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I could see the dysfunction argument for someone like Paddy Kirk or maybe the Estonian lads but Danny wasn't asked to do anything different to how he played before he went to the UK. He's just lost a bit of pace and that means he just can't beat a man anymore. He put in a shift when he played in fairness to him but he's incredibly limited now.Quote:
Originally Posted by RealJohn91
Yesterday in the Aviva was a great event. Far from a vintage game of football but derby games are always hit and miss with quality.
I thought Rovers looked sharper out of the gate. I guess thats to be expected when your "preseason" games are competitive euro games but they really faded and started to look a bit sloppy and lacking ideas.
Bohs were happily solid. Thought the CBs looked really good, very happy with that pairing. Smith at RB was equally solid but I'm not sold on Mountney at LB yet but that's not his preferred position and he still played considerably better than our starting LB last year. Bohs lost 24 points from winning positions last year which is appalling. So this bit of defensive solidity and the work done to keep a clean sheet towards the end was great to see. I think Parsons and Morahan will be big signings for us. When Parsons gets a bit of space he drives towards goal, all too often last year Bohs wingers cut back and passed to a defender (Rovers fans will probably see this a lot from Grant if he starts regularly). Morahan reminded me of peak Keith Buckley . Covered every blade of grass, made a lot of key tackles and freed Devoy and Tierney to push forward. The change of the Bihs squad from this time last year to this year is something to behold. At various stages I'd look at the team sheet last year and say why is Kirk, McDaid, Akintunde, Piszcec starting and I'd look at the bench and say who else do you play? There's a lot more depth there now. Will all the signings work out? No but having options like Bucko, Whelan, Byrne, McDonnell & Meekison off the bench is a great position to be in.
Looking back at the game now i think we deserved something out of it and hope that it isnt the start of another poor start for us to a new season..
The day was a big success and maybe we should consider playing our next home match against Bohs there as well if thats an option.
As i said earlier a win or draw Thursday will make up for it but its never nice to lose a Derby.
Hopefully Burke starts Thursday he looked great yesetrday and without JAck we lack a bit of creativity.
Big bonus was the complete absence of any hassle, never been around so many Bohs fans , even spoke to a few and can confirm they seemed normal enough ;)
I was queuing for a beer next to a fella decked head to toe in Rovers gear and it was like the most normal thing ever. Was new alright the way supporters of both clubs were mingling before, during and after the game.It’s a strange new world we live in.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Jesus, one outing to Rugby HQ and you all turn into Leinster fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
Great day out yesterday, loved it all bar the result. Mousset was really good in the 1st half, you can see the class, he was blowing a bit towards half time but as he gets fitter watch out everyone else. From a hoops perspective thought we were fine the plenty of aspects of the game. How we did not score a couple of times in the 2nd half. Have Bohs come into the discussion as title contenders another couple of wins and yes. Brilliant to see we have keeper that catches the ball and another young star in the making coming on to replace Mandriou. That Adam Mathews injury looks ominous.
Yeah it was a very bad miss by Victor Ozhianvuna kicking it off his standing leg with the goal gaping from 4 yards. Aside from that though he looked really good on the ball and looks very promising for a 16 year old
Really good day out in the Aviva. Everything went well. Just needed 'Half-time raffle' to be blared out on the tannoy :-) Would have thought the screens might have a few replays or incidents etc. but that's just nit-picking really. Wonder how much profit was made on the day? €300-400k? Bars were rammed but doubt BFC get a slice of that?
One of the papers said the money earned was the equivalent of getting European footballQuote:
Originally Posted by Larry 'da' Wyse
Which was surely the point of the exercise from a Bohs point of viewQuote:
Originally Posted by RealJohn91
And also financially an excellent day out for us as well we get a decent cut of the profits from the dayQuote:
Originally Posted by RealJohn91
I heard 25000 was breakeven so 8000 x €20 on average ticket price is 160k split 3 ways between Bohs /FAI and Rovers, most to Bohs as home team but Rovers got a chink for promoting it to our fans etc.
I dont think Finances were the main thing here though to be fair to all sides it was about making the League relavant and launching the season.
From Bohs perspective their STH would fill Dalymount so they get very little extra out of the DErby normally the Aviva profit is extra so its a win win.
For Rovers we have the ability to sell around 6000 non STH tickets for the Derby so the risk is greater in terms of the guarantee of a packed Tallaght.
Id still rather do it with one of our home games though it was a great day out.
From Aidan Fitzmaurice's article it's a lower breakevenQuote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
'There was a risk with the move: figures are a closely-guarded secret but it’s believed that a crowd of 18,000 is break-even for a game at the Aviva.'
Looks like it was a bigger pie to be split?
Corporate hospitality tickets and pitchside advertising would have brought in a nice amount too
Would any other Dublin derby be an option for Lansdowne I wonder?
Shels support probably the smallest of the four but growing in fairness. Pat's maybe similar to Bohs - would Rovers v Pat's work next year?
And you wonder is there any kickback to the country clubs for whom this isn't an option? Presumably a lot of neutrals in the crowd who we know would go to Cup finals, etc - but no chance of, say, Cork v Derry getting the chance to generate a windfall
Which club had the most support on the day?
Saw something on Twitter saying it was roughly a three way split of 11k Bohs, 11k rovers, 11k neutral)Quote:
Originally Posted by redarmyfaction
That's good. If 18000 was the breakeven makes it more viable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bohtastic
The neutral number is what's most impressive there.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
Didn't seem like that in the ground, seemed like bohs had more than rovers (understandable given the molde match) , and very difficult to get a handle on unaligned.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Didn't seem like the neutral sections in the ticketing system were as numerous- and even then, maybe not have been truly neutral, I know of bohs fans who were in 'neutral sections' to get the best available positions having left it late to buy.
I'd say that 33% estimate re. Composition of the crowd is guesswork - as is mine i suppose.