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i think most here agree that its terrible what is being done in pallistine but , this thread is about the abuse dished out to ordinary people going to a football match , calling people murderers trowing pints over them subjecting them to nazi salutes ( this is what people are upset about ) , do you honestly think that these people have any controll over what there goverment does.Quote:
Originally Posted by rqumentative
Surely you mean 'Zionist Occupied Palestine' and not simply Palestine? Merely writing Palestine implies that you must be a friend of the Jews and their evil Zionist oppressing ways. I cast thee from this site. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bit O'Red
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Originally Posted by anto1208
Agreed Anto, racism has no place in football and that's what occured throughout the stadium on saturday. Disgusting.
After the match on Saturday, and reading what a couple of people here have to say, I can't help but think, what the fcuk does it have to do with irish people what happens in Palestine??????
Have a chat with Silvio.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
dont go getting all high and mighty here , thinking you are a great peace keeper of our times , holding up a flag at a soccer match hundreds of miles from any of the problems mentioned where absolutly nothing can happen to you means nothing to the people in palestien ,Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvio
if you really cared you would be on your way over to join the plo ( i think a few of us here this morning will chip in for the plane ticket ), or at least lobbying the polititians at the embassy the people who can make a difference not at a football match .
simple fact is you care as much as the rest of us
Involving politcs with football is, of course, unnecessary. People who were waving palestinian flags during the game are jokes, and should be laughed at.
But anyway, I wanted to let you know that the israeli (zionist regime yada yada) attacks are directed only at members of terrorist organizations, while the palestinian attacks are ALWAYS DIRECTED AT CIVILIANS. They are the ones killing the babies (they didn't do that for quite a while, thanks to the wall).
Hi,
I'm Israeli. I been reading this forum since after the game, didn't think I'd actually write anything here, but this thread is really too hard to resist.
I always believed that when people meet face to face they get along. It's labels & ideologies & prejudgment that brings us the likes of Sylvio et al (and their parallels in Israel too, of course). The whole beauty and truth of Football is that it can let you see beyond that crap.
Every time Arab players like Abas Suan or Walid Badeer play for Israel, Jews & Arabs here get a glimpse of what we will achieve one day, when we work together.
When Sakhnin's home team became the first Arab hometown team to win the Israel Cup 2 years ago (Sakhnin players are a mix of Arab & Jews, like many other teams here), almost everyone here were taken in their joy. I can't remember ever seeing Jews & Arabs celebrating together like that in all my life here.
When my home team, Maccabi Haifa, was the first ever Israeli team in the Champions League, Jews and Arabs cheered & played for it together (we nearly got to 1/8 finals, if not for a certain dodgy goal keeper called Awat, btw...)
Playing together is the best answer to extremists of both sides. To bring politics into the game (especially, Sylvio, when you obviously have absolutely no clue what you're talking about) and turn Football into a scene of hatred is worse than stupid.
PS. since I'm already writing here anyway: nobody in Israel likes that red card. The time waste was stupid, too, you just end up with 7 minutes added time anyway. Other than that, I'm proud of the team. That's exactly how a team playing an away game against a stronger opponent would play. Talentwise, this generation of players is maybe one of the poorest Israel ever produced, but they more than make up with big hearts.
I wish you success tommorow night and in the rest of the matches. Hope both our teams will make it to the World Cup.
:D good one conorQuote:
Originally Posted by Conor74
Bet those "righteous men" felt really big when their beer hit those women and kids, bet they felt they were real hero's
And what exactly is peacefull about Nazi salutes,beer throwing ,hitler songs ,and gas chamber songs.
Silvio - you sem to think this is some sort of thread to peddle your rubbish ideals.Its not .its about the disgusting and filthy inciting behavior of scumbags at the Ireland match .End Of
Instead of another bullsh!t post about zionism ,why not state yer case . Did YOU agree with scumbags showering passing women and Children on their way to a football match with beer ??
Do you agree with scumbags making NAZI salutes at a ffotball match ???
I know a little about the Mid East (not as much as you) and have watched historical doumentaries, read books etc. I do not want to get into a slagging match with you as I can see both sides of the story. But you CANNOT say that the Israeli attacks are ONLY aimed at terrorists (ie legitmate targets) - Shatilla ?. There are atrocities on BOTH sides so please admit it. As there was and still is in the Irish Troubles although some of my countrymen won't admit to it either.Quote:
Originally Posted by omril
Gav,Quote:
Originally Posted by redgav
I've watched as this thread has disintegrated into a political slanging match and I'm glad your bringing it back on topic.
The behaviour of these people was dreadful and I hope every decent person realises that it is not the way to make a protest or stance against anything. I'm interested to see if the questions you have asked above will be answered or ignored.
regards
Great post and well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nir_Arad
Sorry, I've been in a meeting. Enough, Silvio. Thread closed until further notice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor74
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