FIFA World Cup 2018 Qualification - UEFA Play-Offs (9-11th and 12-14th November 2017)

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Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

Shouldn't it be Tuaisceart na hEireann?

I'm no scholar of irish OR Latin but Tuaisceart Eireann reminds me of People Called Romans They Go The House

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If I'm correct, there's an interesting little distinction in there. The literal translation of 'Tuaisceart Eireann' is Northern Ireland. However, in school and learning Irish, we would have been taught 'Tuaisceart na hEireann' which literally translates to the North of Ireland.

I'm sure we all know which would have outraged Bryson and co. More.

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Originally Posted by Olé Olé

If I'm correct, there's an interesting little distinction in there. The literal translation of 'Tuaisceart Eireann' is Northern Ireland.

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I'm no expert either, but would the literal translation of 'Tuaisceart Eireann' not be "North Ireland".

it is, but it's the noun "north" instead of the adjective "Northern"

What little Irish I have left isn't enough to read this article from Tuairisc on it: http://tuairisc.ie/gaeilge-fifa-ina-...r-an-mapa-acu/

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Originally Posted by backstothewall

I'm no expert either, but would the literal translation of 'Tuaisceart Eireann' not be "North Ireland".

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Actually, maybe I was in correct there so. Maybe Gaeilge doesn't account for the distinction with Northern and North of and let's us at it with North of alone?

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

it is, but it's the noun "north" instead of the adjective "Northern"

What little Irish I have left isn't enough to read this article from Tuairisc on it: http://tuairisc.ie/gaeilge-fifa-ina-...r-an-mapa-acu/

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There's very little in that article that you won't have read elsewhere on some of our other "clickbait" and "news" sites.

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Originally Posted by BonnieShels

There's very little in that article that you won't have read elsewhere on some of our other "clickbait" and "news" sites.

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But those comments about how he says all Ireland fans pee on the dishes in the sink....just so uncalled for.

You wouldn't technically be wrong in saying Tuaisceart Éireann as a literal translation of both words, but it would be almost gramatically wrong follow Tuaisceart simply with Éireann. I'd have said you would follow it with 'ná hÉireann' as said already, although that leaves it literally translated as North of Ireland rather than Northern Ireland.

There's a number of ways of saying it, as there are with pretty much everything in Irish. But such are the rules of the language, you're never going to be right or wrong, just what is understood.

As Tets says, Tuaisceart is simply the noun. Your adjective in this case would be Tuaisceartach: 'an Tuaisceartach' - The North.

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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

You wouldn't technically be wrong in saying Tuaisceart Éireann as a literal translation of both words, but it would be almost gramatically wrong follow Tuaisceart simply with Éireann. I'd have said you would follow it with 'ná hÉireann' as said already, although that leaves it literally translated as North of Ireland rather than Northern Ireland.

There's a number of ways of saying it, as there are with pretty much everything in Irish. But such are the rules of the language, you're never going to be right or wrong, just what is understood.

As Tets says, Tuaisceart is simply the noun. Your adjective in this case would be Tuaisceartach: 'an Tuaisceartach' - The North.

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I think thats ( Tuaisceart Eireann ) the way Protestants / Unionists / Loyalists say it . Its an Ulster Scots tweak .

Nice artcle about the first UEFA WC play-offs back in 1997:

https://www.theguardian.com/football...-italy-ireland

The draw was rigged, an insider tells me the the Irish and Danish balls were warmed up so they could know which balls they were which.

The balls should be scooped out with a spoon to stop such abuse.

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Originally Posted by KrisLetang

But those comments about how he says all Ireland fans pee on the dishes in the sink....just so uncalled for.

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Yea I always take the dishes out.

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Originally Posted by tricky_colour

The draw was rigged, an insider tells me the the Irish and Danish balls were warmed up so they could know which balls they were which.

The balls should be scooped out with a spoon to stop such abuse.

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Draw might take a while...but this would be entertaining, and a real leveler.

http://www.ju90.co.uk/nimr/shaiweb.jpg

My da came across this column by John Devine - on FIFA's use of "Tuaisceart Éireann" and the surrounding controversy - in last Thursday's Strabane Chronicle:

http://i65.tinypic.com/qrxnk4.jpg

Might be of interest to someone.

Why in the world would Serbia sack the manager? US should hire him.