Suggestion for Bohs and Rovers FANS

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Originally Posted by NY Hoop

Calm down pal you'll have a hernia and then where would we be without reading your crap.

We ARE Irish football. You calling me scum cos I support Rovers?


KOH

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no, i'm saying you have more active scum fans than any other club.
How many other clubs in the country have fans who would admit that they don't go to games anymore because the current crop of fans are so anti social?

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Originally Posted by paddigol

How many other clubs in the country have fans who would admit that they don't go to games anymore because the current crop of fans are so anti social?

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That's one person who has never posted on our own forum or at least has never posted those sentiments (yeah, yeah, it's because he feels too intimidated to post on the Ultras board. :rolleyes: )

KOH

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Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

That's one person who has never posted on our own forum or at least has never posted those sentiments (yeah, yeah, it's because he feels too intimidated to post on the Ultras board. :rolleyes: )

KOH

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I've seen many posts on the Bohs message board at least of people who either don't go anymore or are afraid to bring their kids to the Bohs Rovers games.

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Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub

Which is it then?

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1 if a group of people run onto the pitch to celebrate a goal, security is the home club's responsibility

2. If a group of people who caused trouble outside the ground, are escorted to the turnstiles to pay in by the Gardai, the clubs can NOT be held responsible if they then cause trouble inside the ground. The clubs are powerless to banning people from entering the ground when they have just been frogmarched to the door. This is a case of the Gardai not doing their job.

Jasus how do some you even manage to leave your house into the big bad world in the morning let alone go to a match where there might be a bit of agro.

Thank god the net wasn't around in the 80's. Imagine games in the Oriel getting a write up on here ! :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by $Leon$

these are the same people who have been causing trouble all their lifes. the guards know exactly who they are. i'm sure u could ask any guard in any station across the counrty who their local trouble makers are and they could give u a list of the usual suspects for any anti social behaviour in the locality

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Are you for real? Even in McDowell's wildest dreams, the cops in Drumcondra don't know every gouger in Dublin to see. That may be feasible in a village but it doesn't work like that in the big city.

Personally, it always baffles me how the cops and the Herald know who's who seeing as they pride themselves on not wearing colours - one **** in Burberry must look much the same as the next one. FFS, both Bohs and Rovers are busy all week denying that the guy who was brought to hospital was one of theirs. Hardly the makings of a vendetta, is it - "Your lot glassed someone who wasn't one of our lot"?

I said it before and I'll say it again - I'm consistently liberal, I think consenting male adults should be allowed ride each other and consenting male adults should be allowed batter each other. Once neither happens in a football ground or involves unwilling participants, who cares?

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Originally Posted by paddigol

your club's a poxy stain on irish football. No home, scum fans, dirty handed board, two faced cowboy manager, tarnishing image of league. You should be sent back to the LSL to learn how a proper club is run and proper supporters behave.

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We already have a team in the LSL :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by NY Hoop

Remember there is no troublesome cark fans

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And this has a direct result on our attendances .... Families can come along to the cross and enjoy a safe environment in which to watch the ever increasing good standard of football.

The attendances would be alot better too if Rovers and Bohs didnt drag the name of Irish football into the gutter and the game would then appeal to alot more of the general public.

No mother or father will bring their kids along if they have to experience half of the cráp that is happening with you lot. the very mention of someone getting stabbed or whatever would make up their minds for at least five years.

I cant believe that you cant see the damage it is doing, maybe you dont care or want to see ..... and fair enough, you'd just be saying that you'd rather see your club stay the way it is .... but you MUST be able to see what it is doing.

Your club should be compensating us for lose of gate receipts ... your club is getting away with murder.

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Originally Posted by A face

Families can come along to the cross and enjoy a safe environment in which to watch the ever increasing good standard of football.

The attendances would be alot better too if Rovers and Bohs didnt drag the name of Irish football into the gutter and the game would then appeal to alot more of the general public.

No mother or father will bring their kids along if they have to experience half of the cráp that is happening with you lot. the very mention of someone getting stabbed or whatever would make up their minds for at least five years.

I cant believe that you cant see the damage it is doing, maybe you dont care or want to see ..... and fair enough, you'd just be saying that you'd rather see your club stay the way it is .... but you MUST be able to see what it is doing.

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This is more or less the point I was trying to make in my previous post so thanks to A face for reiterating it. I'm disappointed that this thread has become a slanging match for some contributors - I was hopeful that more suggestions would be made on how to deal with the problem. I still think that the onus is on the clubs to eliminate this sort of behaviour in any means possible whether the 'incidents' take place inside or outside the ground. For example, Rovers could do a lot more to distance themselves from their own 'supporters' who are troublemakers. All I've ever seen is some wishy washy statement about them not being real football supporters. This might be true but to continue taking their money at the turnstile is hypocritical at the very least.

I have always been an SRFC supporter and I always WILL follow them - but whether or not I will support them by attending matches and adding to their gate receipts is up to them - when they get the 'scum' problem sorted I'll be back but not until then. I'm sure I'll get some flak from other Rovers supporters questioning my loyalty but that's how I feel.

Finally, I find this idea of 'Ultra' supporters in all clubs fairly bizarre. As far as I know ultra means extreme which, in turn, must mean that these people feel they are somehow superior to 'ordinary' supporters. So how do you become an ultra supporter? - pay double at the turnstile? - buy 3 season tickets instead of one? Or is it something more sinister than that? Just asking! :confused:

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Originally Posted by timamansio

I have always been an SRFC supporter and I always WILL follow them - but whether or not I will support them by attending matches and adding to their gate receipts is up to them - when they get the 'scum' problem sorted I'll be back but not until then. I'm sure I'll get some flak from other Rovers supporters questioning my loyalty but that's how I feel.

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I would question the loyalty of any supporter who willingly chooses to not attend their clubs games.

Just because you don't like the other supporters is not an excuse. You should be going to every home game and try to get to some away games aswell. Rovers are not in exactly the strongest of financial positions so for you to deny them an extra few quid at the gate every week would make me question how much you actually care about the club.

I hope Cork City don't have any fans like you.

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Originally Posted by joeraki

Jasus how do some you even manage to leave your house into the big bad world in the morning let alone go to a match where there might be a bit of agro.

Thank god the net wasn't around in the 80's. Imagine games in the Oriel getting a write up on here ! :rolleyes:

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Best post by miles on this bizarre, ridiculous thread. There's even Rovers fans on this thread (Timamansio) who may not actually be Hoops at all. Imagine that! :eek:

KOH

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Originally Posted by Guerzy

We city fans have been attacked many times by the ultras for absolute nothing at all.

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yeah sure remember when they attacked the city fans in the cross this season and all the lads had to run up to the st. annes end to sort it out.
and dont give me the city fans started it argument either because we all know what the rovers scum are like.
personally i think they are stupid to go near the city fans as they are always outnumbered both home and away, they are lucky that city fans dont ever really react.

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Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

Best post by miles on this bizarre, ridiculous thread. There's even Rovers fans on this thread (Timamansio) who may not actually be Hoops at all. Imagine that! :eek:

KOH

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Yeah right! I supported Rovers through the barren 70s (78 Cup Win notwithstanding); saw Ray Treacy getting sent off (it seemed) in almost every match, saw Gilesy hammer home a few free kicks, even attended the Hoops nightclub in Glenamalure - where were you? - in your pram?

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Originally Posted by timamansio

Yeah right! I supported Rovers through the barren 70s (78 Cup Win notwithstanding); saw Ray Treacy getting sent off (it seemed) in almost every match, saw Gilesy hammer home a few free kicks, even attended the Hoops nightclub in Glenamalure - where were you? - in your pram?

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Are you sure? WAR is nearly as old as nightdub... :D

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Originally Posted by Guerzy

Agree completely with you. Fair play for saying it like it is. Rovers need more fans like you before they go down the tubes, people that will voice their opinion. Ultras true, are extreme. While publicly they claim they are just into big flags and all that, but privately they aspire to greater things like hooliganism in the ways of continental teams and the likes. We city fans have been attacked many times by the ultras for absolute nothing at all. But to be honest they are rotten from the root down. We were drinking in mc dowells after the last Rovers game and the directors were talking to us. At first it was grand but then they started boasting of how they were throwing ashtrays in a certain pub in cork, not the horshoe and how they smashed their glasses. See when a club is that rotten to the core how can you expect the guys at the top to deal with the hooligans when they carried out such acts in the past as well. Its all sick. Fair play again for seeing the bigger. You are a minority. Others like WE ARE ROVERS AND NY HOOP love this hooligan image and are quite happy to walk with the big boys hiding behind them lovi ng the adrenaline they get from having a sense of identity. The Ultras need to be eliminated as they bring nothing to their club and only seek to enhance their reputation as troublemakers

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Right brain deader read this slowly: I NEVER said I love this hooligan image. As usual you know nothing. You dont even know me you **** yet you come on here saying all kinds of crap.

You couldnt be more wrong about the Ultras. There is nothing sinister about them. If you have been attacked by the Ultras it must have been in Italy or somewhere cos it wasnt Rovers Ultras.

Asked you or one of your other deluded cark fans before for suggestions. What is the club to do if the trouble is AWAY from the ground? You cannot tarnish us all with the same brush. Dont even talk to me about the directors. You would have more in common with them as you obviously share brain cells with them.

Without doubt you are the most ignorant EL fan ever to post. Nice one sham's post is full of distortions as well. Any normal cork fans out there with their heads screwed on and who can think for themselves? :eek:

KOH

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Originally Posted by timamansio

Yeah right! I supported Rovers through the barren 70s (78 Cup Win notwithstanding); saw Ray Treacy getting sent off (it seemed) in almost every match, saw Gilesy hammer home a few free kicks, even attended the Hoops nightclub in Glenamalure - where were you? - in your pram?

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You're exactly 1 year older than me so even though I was probably standing near you in the Shed I bow to your greater experience. The point I was making is that there are Hoops on here expressing opinions that are never expressed on our own board. Which is a wee bit strange.

KOH

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Originally Posted by Guerzy

I m just stating the facts and its unfortunate you keep deluding yourself and wont face facts. the trouble away from the ground? Ban everyone of them that is known. You keep making excuses for yere fans and it carries weight in nobody's books. As regarding the comment of me being the most ignorant EL fan ever to post why do you bother to reply to me if you think so. You attack me with slants and digs and the ultras are scum "Believe Fight Win" . What kind of motto is that? Stop talking rubbish and face facts rather than throwing tripe in my direction

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Facts? Look up the word in the dictionary. So if there's a fight between consenting adults in Dublin the night of a derby they should be banned? :eek:

I am sticking for the MAJORITY of Rovers fans who go for football reasons. I have to reply to you cos you are dangerous. Unfortunately there are people out there who believe what they read.

Yeah that motto means genocide! And I'm talking rubbish?! :eek:


KOH

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Originally Posted by Guerzy

Oh because it s a derby its alright then. Because its a derby game everybody who wants to fight work away. Sure its only a bit a fun i suppose NY HOOP. Your posts get more ridiculous by the second. So you condone what happened last friday. Then your just like them. Sure you were probably down there yourself. Sure let every fight happen on the streets. Their consenting adults. Stupid. Laws are laws. We dont live in a lawless society unfortunately for you and their not their to be broken because its " DERBY DAY " Really you just put yourself in a hole.

"Believe Fight Win" Hardly a conservative viewpoint . No it isnt. It s one which utters the principles of insanity. Just give up with this. Your just making yourself look foolish :rolleyes:

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Cant argue with someone so stupid. So you're right I'm wrong. :eek: I refuse to be dragged into your deranged stupidity...........

Bye bye rainman.

KOH

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Originally Posted by Guerzy

Thank you. I knew you'd come over to my way of thinking. It takes a bigger man to say he's wrong. Well done

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As well as facts, check sarcasm in dictionary :eek: :eek:

If we all came to your way of thinking we'd be living in trees :o


KOH

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Originally Posted by timamansio

Yeah right! I supported Rovers through the barren 70s (78 Cup Win notwithstanding); saw Ray Treacy getting sent off (it seemed) in almost every match, saw Gilesy hammer home a few free kicks, even attended the Hoops nightclub in Glenamalure - where were you? - in your pram?

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So let me get this straight, you supported Rovers in the 70's and maybe the 80's am I correct so far ?

Maybe I'm going senile but my recollection of games in those days where mentel at times. Running battles in Oriel, The Market Fields, Flower Lodge, Milltown and probably a few other I forget. Hardcore violence every season !! But a fight in this day and age has put you off going to games. I smell a **** take here :rolleyes: