Champions League 2014/5

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Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

'Legia Warsaw ask Celtic for meeting': http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28732601



Quite a bit of fawning; will Celtic entertain such an appeal to their alleged better nature?

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That's one of the most sycophantic things I've ever read... I'm glad Celtic have told them to stuff it. Why isn't Dariusz Mioduski looking for the guy who stuffed up the Legia team sheet? If they had been able to fill in a teamsheet none of this would have happened. Legia broke the rules and this is the standard punishment (3-0 default defeat), if Celtic really don't want to participate then UEFA should give Maribor a bye, otherwise what is Legia's punishment?

An open response to Legia Warsaw’s poison pen letter to Celtic

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Originally Posted by DeLorean

An open response to Legia Warsaw’s poison pen letter to Celtic

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Ha, pretty sharp. Hard to argue with it really.

I haven't seen any mention of it elsewhere, but the Daily Mail are reporting that Legia are vowing to take their case to CAS if they have no luck with their UEFA appeal this week. I'm not sure what the basis of such action would be. The rules in place are very clear, Legia signed up to them and (whether they seem harsh/unfair or not) UEFA have applied them entirely correctly.

There is that IFA vibe about Legia.

That open letter from Legia reminds me of Delaney after the Henry handball, asking to be the 33rd team.

This letter has the same whinge to it. People went from feeling sorry for Legia to wishing they'd just shut up about it.

Ha, I was going to say after geysir's post, Legia remind me of the FAI.

I think with Legia it's slightly worse, for several reasons. It was Legia's own fault, Celtic didn't "cheat" their way past them (in the way say Henry cheated by using his hand) it was down to the Polish team's inability to fill in a form. The FAI never pandered to French FA in such a public fashion, there was no letter about the honorable history of the French Federation carping on about Juste Fontaine, Raymond Kopa or Marius Tresor. Legia/Celtic still have another 120 mins to play against a reasonably strong (compared to Legia/Celtic) Maribor team, to an extent you could say that if Henry's handball had been spotted then Ireland would still (probably) have faced a shootout but Ireland's route to a possible WC was far less protracted than Legia's route to the CL group stage.

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A charming bunch altogether...

Also, (Apologies for the source)
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...-legia-4042599

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Originally Posted by osarusan

That open letter from Legia reminds me of Delaney after the Henry handball, asking to be the 33rd team.

This letter has the same whinge to it. People went from feeling sorry for Legia to wishing they'd just shut up about it.

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There's a similarity, however the FAI delegation met Blatter in private, it was Blatter who made an ass of himself and breached confidence by attempting to ridicule the FAI from an open platform by revealing the sorry details of the discussion.

True, I'd forgotten it was in private.

They'd already made a playoff request at that stage though, talking about honesty and integrity and how they wouldn't be happy to qualify for a world cup like that.

Although, to be fair to Legia and the FAI, their other option was to do nothing, and I suppose they were willing to suffer the laughter and criticism for the one-in-a-million chance that they'd be successful.

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Originally Posted by osarusan

Although, to be fair to Legia and the FAI, their other option was to do nothing, and I suppose they were willing to suffer the laughter and criticism for the one-in-a-million chance that they'd be successful

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Don't forget Legia's third option of qualifying for the relatively advanced stages of a UEFA competition as a direct result (direct requirement, even) of being disqualified from another UEFA competition for admin. gormlessness.

Legia don't really deserve much fairness. Protracted dumbness gets deserved ridicule just as it did for the IFA and FAI in past cases.

Erm, we know.

Except that the FAI in their 15 minutes of infamy were just the subject of ridicule aggravated by the buffoonery of Blatter, in contrast to the IFA who were off the scale in protracted dumbness, stubbornness and just outright stupidity, year after year.

Erm, we know you are obsessed about them, year after year...

Erm, because am a fan, since I was 8. What's your excuse, besides the blatant irrational 'hating' ? Why not stick to the team that died?

If we were really any good, that might be an excuse.
:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Gather round

Erm, we know you are obsessed about them, year after year...

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You keep coming and putting your foot in it:)

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Protracted dumbness gets deserved ridicule just as it did for the IFA and FAI in past cases.

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FAI, a week, at most.
However, 4 years for the IFA (2006 - July 2010) does leave a considerable imprint and would fit the protracted ridicule label.

Tbf his/their 'comedy' is priceless...

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Originally Posted by geysir

FAI, a week, at most.
However, 4 years for the IFA (2006 - July 2010) does leave a considerable imprint and would fit the protracted ridicule label

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Afternoon chaps. I'm sure most NI fans would agree the IFA were deserving of ridicule both before and after the limits you mention.

You're unusually naive about the FAI case. They asked Blatter for a private meeting AFTER criticising FIFA as both incompetent and dishonest, then put a proposal that was absurd. Unsurprisingly, he turned a situation of minor embarrassment for himself into one of ridicule for Delaney. Yes, someone a bit gentler and less ruthless might have just dismissed the idea in private, but you knew in advance that he was a cynical machine politician. Not the Citizen's Advice Bureau.