Crowd trouble in Paris

never forget in Basel last year - me and two mates sitting outside a cafe morning after the game round 11.30 - knackered, drinking coffee.

These lads (bout 40's) ripping into us for not drinking pints and shouting "get your tits out" at all the women walking by - some with their kids/families even!

One of us commented on how the next song they'd prob start singing was Vindaloo or something! hit a nerve i reckon but they just kept goin, easier to keep going and mob rule!!!

best thing we can do is to back someone up if you see them taking a stand and not to hide behind sneering!!

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

Other countries that have away travel clubs set up temporary mobile offices in the centre of the cities they are travelling to and give advice, assistance etc. to the fans. They also have people mingling with the fans to try and stamp out trouble before it starts. I'm sure sponsorship for such a thing would be easy enough to get

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I work for one of the companys in england who sponsor the ingurland team... they provided such an office during euro 04 and it was very well recived... worked for them and would work and be welcome for us.

Recon it should be submitted to the FAI as an idea

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Originally Posted by Jon'o

I work for one of the companys in england who sponsor the ingurland team... they provided such an office during euro 04 and it was very well recived... worked for them and would work and be welcome for us.

Recon it should be submitted to the FAI as an idea

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have written to the fai too many times recently without getting a response.... dont think they really too interested to be honest..... their only concern in relation to fans these days seems to be keeping the sky sports super sunday football "fans" that currently attend lansdowne happy with all the razmataz theyve introduced!

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

with all the razmataz theyve introduced!

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sure coz all those silly green fury hats look great on tv!!! FFS ;)

The other thing they did was produce this huge .... flag and i mean huge it was taken to every one of the 92 league clubs who signed it and wished the ingurland team luck then it was taken to portugal and followed the team around.

surely after seeing the type of thing they had at the stade de france and basel with the huge kit the fai could do something similar.

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

An away travel club is the only way forward and if tickets were limited to the supporters in the club it would have a couple of benefits…

1. The “fans” who jump on the away match bandwagon for glamorous matches only would find it hard to get tickets and therefore would be unlikely to travel. These are generally the ones causing the hassle.

2. Genuine fans who go to all the low-key away qualifiers and friendlys would be guaranteed tickets for the higher profile matches like Paris and Switzerland ‘03. The crew I travel with go to many away matches but had to book 4 times the tickets we wanted to the swiss match in September in the hope of getting what we wanted (ended up with far too many!)

Other countries that have away travel clubs set up temporary mobile offices in the centre of the cities they are travelling to and give advice, assistance etc. to the fans. They also have people mingling with the fans to try and stamp out trouble before it starts. I'm sure sponsorship for such a thing would be easy enough to get

We have one of the largest group of travelling supporters in the world and its about time that certain arrangements were put in place to both assist the fans and monitor the trouble makers. We cant let our excellent image be ruined

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Its a fair point, but what happens in the event of games like France, Portugal '95 or Amsterdam 2000 when the Irish are given a massive amount of tickets perhaps more than membership of any travel club; will the FAI knock these back, not likely, so the chance is that the gobsh*tes will still turn up. Equally while the allocation was 19.000 for Paris the estimated amount of fans was anything you to 40,000 so a Travel club would have no effect on many of these people who get tickets for the home end.
While I agree that a Travel club would be a start -certainly as you point out in giving priority to those who have gone to the most games for tickets for the most important fixtures - there will always be people who will act like an eejit with a beer and away from the misses for a couple of days, it should be Irish fans who let them know that we don't appreciate or want that type of behaviour

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Originally Posted by oconghc2

These lads (bout 40's) ripping into us for not drinking pints and shouting "get your tits out" at all the women walking by - some with their kids/families even!

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I always find it bizzare when t**ts do that. What on earth do they expect ? Perhaps they hope every woman is going think, "Wow what a line - so articulate! Yeah you know what ? Why dont we just do that, those people are so polite its only fair if we flash our breasts". :rolleyes:

"Get your tits out" - its just such a crude thing to say.

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Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo

I always find it bizzare when t**ts do that. What on earth do they expect ? Perhaps they hope every woman is going think, "Wow what a line - so articulate! Yeah you know what ? Why dont we just do that, those people are so polite its only fair if we flash our breasts". :rolleyes:

"Get your tits out" - its just such a crude thing to say.

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Another one from the old days of supporting Ireland was 'Sing! Sing! Or show your ring!' Nice. :rolleyes:

Stewards with digital cameras/camcorders would be a good idea inside the ground. Also sending pictures of the tw*ts to the Sunday Whore or something for general embarassment. However, what we are looking at is the old 'bandwagon' brigade and these games are few and far between. Get a group like the one for Euro 2000 and these blokes will have to p*ss off and watch the tour de France or something. Looking at the way the FAI can't run a bath, would you trust them to run a travel club? While people were waiting with baited breath for tickets wondering if Basel was to reoccur, others like myself had already bought theirs for both games on the relevent ticketmaster. And it's fine as long as your not in with w*nkers.

The worst thing that could happen in all this is the police, by steaming in, force the rest of us to take sides, inevitably in my view on the side of our fellow muppet countrymen. The new In-ger-lish? The thought is frightening.

I remeber some 2 Rovers fans giving some fella a serious kicking on the tram to the game in Basel last year but fights happen after a truck load of booze. I dont see many Irish fans activley pursuing trouble. Imagine the damage 30,000 english fans would have caused in Paris.

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Originally Posted by Soko

I remeber some 2 Rovers fans giving some fella a serious kicking on the tram to the game in Basel last year but fights happen after a truck load of booze. I dont see many Irish fans activley pursuing trouble. Imagine the damage 30,000 english fans would have caused in Paris.

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Im no lover of the enlgish fans, but to be fair there must have been 30k of them at the game against France in Portugal and I don't think there was too much reported in terms of violence at the game. (The other half was at it as well and said it was a great atmosphere). Obviously I am aware there was trouble down in the Algarve.

Can be an easy targets the tans.