Under 16s

The crux of the matter is this,why take players who are well coached by there clubs and inter league management teams,let them play Kenneddy cup and u16s with desmond lge,if they are good enough they will be on the emerging talent programme in ul and where Limerick will prob get most of there players for u17 league of ireland.
Limerick u15s got beat 7-1 by Pike during the week with im told 7 or 8 desmond players on the starting line up,why dont they try and sign a few of these pike boys and a few from the boro.??????
The desmond league u16 league is now very average due to all the influx of players to limerick fc.thats not good for football in the county,players will end up giving up football and taking just doing gaa full time or rugby full time,and thats not good for football in the county as a whole.
Pat o sullivan needs to have a look at it,ldsl needs to have a look at it and the desmond lge committee need to have a look at it.

Sweeper answer lim til i dies questions before rambling on about what you think should be done or making more general sweeping statements. Only thing id be encouraging p o sullivan to do is pull all his sponsorship of the desmond leagues if their are disgruntled parties such as yourself out there

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Originally Posted by gael353

Sweeper answer lim til i dies questions before rambling on about what you think should be done or making more general sweeping statements. Only thing id be encouraging p o sullivan to do is pull all his sponsorship of the desmond leagues if their are disgruntled parties such as yourself out there

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Didn't know he was sponsering them,makes it all the worse,keep the committee sweet with a few jerseys and kill off the league.

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Originally Posted by sweeper

Didn't know he was sponsering them,makes it all the worse,keep the committee sweet with a few jerseys and kill off the league.

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I believe his financial contributions to the Desmond leagues originated long before his involvement with Limerick FC.

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Originally Posted by sweeper

Didn't know he was sponsering them,makes it all the worse,keep the committee sweet with a few jerseys and kill off the league.

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More rubbish from you and still no replies to any questions from your rubbish aligations. If we're training the same time and night as yee do ill come over and ask you to explain your foot rantings

I think sweeper is making a good point overall even if some of his points are a bit vague.There is no need for someone to come on and ridicule his statements and insult him so as to score points with his buddies.I think the desmond league need to sort this out themselves and I dont blame Limerick for taking advantage of the rules as they are.The desmond league committee and especially the chairman need to act now and stop talking about it.Pat O Sullivan has more to be doing than getting involved in petty issues like this.These youngsters are not good enough as the u15 result v pike proves anyway so Limerick are wasting time and resources on them and should leave them where they were and then cherrypick the better players when they are older.It should mean something to be asked to play for Limerick but it doesnt when every tom dick n harry is travelling in...to live the dream!!!

Taking all points on board, if the kids themselves want to play with Limerick then whats the problem. Not every kid does and if they do then really who is anyone else to try and stop it. Another point to take is possibly given a few years people could be asking the questions if the senior team isnt fielding local talent, and with the path through their younger teams that seems to be the game plan they are putting in place, which really cant be a bad thing.

They will never get any Pike players.FACT.They should never have been left in in the first place.All the bull about bringing players on to LOI haha.Just left 2 strikers go ffs.

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Originally Posted by hotspur

They will never get any Pike players.FACT.They should never have been left in in the first place.All the bull about bringing players on to LOI haha.Just left 2 strikers go ffs.

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Not sure exactly who you are on about but maybe they are two that Russell thought weren't good enough for LOI maybe?

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Originally Posted by Jofspring

Not sure exactly who you are on about but maybe they are two that Russell thought weren't good enough for LOI maybe?

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Hanlon and Sheedy.

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Originally Posted by hotspur

Hanlon and Sheedy.

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Hanlons game time has been very very limited so can understand why he's gone and Sheedy has been with the club 5 years now without really making a serious breakthrough into the first team.

Made a few more enquiries re underage set-up with Limerick fc,it turns out when Limerick turned to sign city players from there clubs there was uproar and objections going into Limerick district schoolboy lge,guess how many city players now play with Limerick u15 schoolboy team----answer is none,how many city players in u16 team----answer is 1,a limerick district team with 1 district based player in two teams combined,its a total disgrace and a sham that they wont go near the city based players but have no problem wiping out some teams in the desmond lge and coaches ringing up and putting pressure on parents for there kids to sign with Limerick f.c.
Fair play to the clubs and Limerick district schoolboy lge putting there foot down,its a pity the desmond lge doesn't put there foot down,they seem happy with a set of jerseys than progressing the lge.
Also e250 membership and no gear with that,someone is taking the mick.

Ive said it before and ill say it again.The chairman of the desmond league is the person responsible
for this debacle and he should man up and sort it out or resign and let someone else do it.It is easy for the
men from the west to blame everyone else but they need to have a good look at themselves and
put measures into place to stop this pointless influx of mediocre players into Limerick fc.The desmond leagues
performances in recent kennedy cups tells its own story...you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

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Originally Posted by hotspur

They will never get any Pike players.FACT.They should never have been left in in the first place.All the bull about bringing players on to LOI haha.Just left 2 strikers go ffs.

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What's your point? Are you saying that Limerick FC shouldn't be allowed to have any underage teams? Because that's the most idiotic thing I've had the misfortune to come across on this site yet and I've come across some utter s***e! Every LOI is required to have an underage set up. Every club across the channel has an underage set up, and how many of them progress to the first-team?
As for Pike Rovers they've turned poaching players into an art-form. They've been doing it for as long as I can remember so don't try and take the moral high ground on that one - kettle, pot, black! If a player wants to leave a club and join another club it's the players choice - end of story on that one!
Just one question - what's the standard of coaching like at clubs when compared to the coaching they will get at Limerick FC? I for one had plenty of training sessions when I was underage, and I can assure you we got nothing that could be classed as coaching - hopefully things have changed but I seriously doubt it!

while the views of clubs other than limerick fc should be welcomed on this sensitive issue ,given their history Pike rovers are in no position to pontificate on how limerick fc should or should not conduct themselves.

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Originally Posted by hightackle

If I was to pay 250 euro ( like limerick are charging ) for my child to play for any club I would expect top of the range coaching,I think also you will find that all managers/coaches in pike have all done kick start 2 it is a rule within the club that you must do them to become a manager/coach 1 has passed his B badge and 1 has Passed his A badge.also for 30 euro a season.

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That 250 euro also covers entry into every Limerick FC game for the season so lets not make out that it costs 250 to play with Limerick and that's all you get from it. Now for the coaching side of things - Kick start 2 covers you to work with 9 -12 year olds and it takes 17 hrs in total to complete, done over 1 weekend. Kick start 1 can be done in 8 hours.
Now you say that 1 person with Pike has an A badge and 1 person has a B badge - how many teams are they training between them? Also, what's the story with medical staff, physios and follow up treatment for their underage teams?

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Originally Posted by hightackle

So what you are saying is that they are charging €250 and you can get into the limerick games a sneaky way to con the kids I would say also no child is aloud get physio and I would say that every club have a medic of some kind that would do at any match..250 but you get into all limericks games cracker...

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I don't recall there ever being a medic of any kind at underage games when I played, but then again that was a few years ago now. Maybe someone who had done first aid but that would be it.
So are you saying that if an underage player is injured and needs treatment then they aren't allowed get any physio?

What's the story with Pike under 16's I mean let's be honest I never heard of a Pike team being beaten 12-0?

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Originally Posted by hightackle

It took you over a month to come back but you still haven't answered my question above.

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He might be more aware of that if you used an occasional question mark while trolling this thread.

First things first, you didn't start any sentence with "what if" - those words appeared mid-sentence. A sentence begins after a full-stop! Secondly, I was unaware of there being any question asked. Thirdly, I am not in any way involved with Limerick FC's underage set-up, I was merely insinuating that Limerick would be in a much better position to look after players that may pick up an injury than a junior club would be. I also pointed out the level of coaching that they will get with Limerick would be a hell of a lot better than the level of coaching at junior clubs - being free in to Limerick games is merely an added bonus for those who wish to avail of it!