i am a big supporter of ireland team like and i love seeing our players do well but i think these are signs of a bleak period for irish football in the next few years. shay given will not get into the man city first team not for epl games, not for europa and not for fa cup. mayb carling cup but even then i have doubts. the key to get the best out of hart is giving him many many games there not gonna like want to keep taking him out of the team. shay is greedy everyone knows he wont get back in the team and really should have left. i would been dissapointed with fulham but since no big teams have any interest in given it would have been alright(arsene wenger wants to go four a 37 yr old over a 34 yr old who he could get for roughly same price)