Cork City Financial Discussion

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Originally Posted by gufct

there unrealistic Budgets 4 singled out as per his interview on TV 3 were along the lines of the Herald Article easily identifiable as Bohs,Cork,Sligo & Drogheda.

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Originally Posted by gufct

proposed ones for this year he said he was very sceptical and with the accusation in the Herald yesterday of under the table cash payments to circumvent the licencin process it looks like some clubs havent learned any lessons from last seasons debacle.You cant base your budget on hoped for success because our last 3 premier winners have all faced meltdown despite their success.

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Well if it's this years budgets you can take drogs out of your list. I've seen the budget and its far from unrealistic. Its actually embarassing as it shows how unpopular the league must be to have such low income levels.

That was Ollie Byrne's line; "No good can come from releasing official crowd figures"

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Originally Posted by Smurf1

Well if it's this years budgets you can take drogs out of your list. I've seen the budget and its far from unrealistic. Its actually embarassing as it shows how unpopular the league must be to have such low income levels.

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I Apologise I was wrong about Drogs so who does that leave Dundalk,Pats,Derry or Rovers?

Athlone was how I read it.

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Originally Posted by tiktok

I never said you were, you're just acting as the messanger boy for the rumour monger.

If what's not true? What Longfordian claims Mathews said? I'll be sure to get onto all the national newspapers and the FAI to tell them that a few of Alan Mathews buddies are spreading rumours about CCFC on an anonymous internet forum, I'd say that's well up their list of priorities right now, ffs!

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I was talking about Licencing and you tore into Longfordiam making all kinds of accusations against Alan Matthews who I know since he was a player with galway and he has always been up straight with me in any dealings ive ever had with him.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Athlone was how I read it.

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Its not our budget as we are operating of the smallest budget in the league other than Kildare County

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Originally Posted by Battery Rover

Its not our budget as we are operating of the smallest budget in the league other than Kildare County

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Does that include the amateur clubs?

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Originally Posted by Battery Rover

Its not our budget as we are operating of the smallest budget in the league other than Kildare County

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Sorry, I was still going on the article in the Herald (players owed E20k and not confident of receiving it even though an agreement has been reached). Wasn't aware of Delaney's interview.

dman - I think Athlone are amateur this year. Or close enough anyway.

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Originally Posted by gufct

Alan Matthews who I know since he was a player with galway and he has always been up straight with me in any dealings ive ever had with him.

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Yes, the fact that you're friends with Alan Mathews and therefore biased in his favour has been duly noted. I used to have great time for the man too, which is probably why I'm so hugely disappointed in his antics over recent months, some of them incredibly petty.

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Originally Posted by tiktok

If what's not true? What Longfordian claims Mathews said? I'll be sure to get onto all the national newspapers and the FAI to tell them that a few of Alan Mathews buddies are spreading rumours about CCFC on an anonymous internet forum, I'd say that's well up their list of priorities right now, ffs!

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He's not my buddy. I know him alright, not that well personally but he would be close to people I do know very well. I wasn't casting aspersions on CCFC in and of itself, more reporting on Tom Coughlan's alleged approach to the parting of ways. At the end of the day Mathews will be alright one way or another so don't think that I want to see ye hammered or anything. My interest is mainly a personal curiosity in how it pans out in a legal sense. That's the area I'm in. I'm going to back away from this thread slowly and with my hands in the air.

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Originally Posted by tiktok

I don't remember Tom Coughlan sacking anyone.

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Alan was well within his rights not to reduce his wages.Obviously i don't like seeing the club in trouble but they put themselves in this position

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Originally Posted by tiktok

I hope Alan Mathews gets what he deserves to by the way.

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His money?
No change with the new owner((s) as we don't know who else is involved with TNB).The same as Arkaga really a manager wins a cup and gets the sac hmm where have i seen that before.

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Originally Posted by gufct

Your chairman is living in dreamworld and if I were a CCFC Supporter id be very worried as to the future of your club.

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Agree with this completely.

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Originally Posted by Battery Rover

Its not our budget as we are operating of the smallest budget in the league other than Kildare County

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No its definitely not Athlone although they were mentioned in relation to Post dated cheques which will have to be cleared before they get the ok and I think Kildare are in the same boat. There was definitely another Premier Team but i dont know which one.Ours, Brays and Droghrda are the lowest budgets so that leaves anyone of 4.

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Originally Posted by Longfordian

I'm going to back away from this thread slowly and with my hands in the air.

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:D

It's ok, come back, I realised I'm taking all this far too seriously.

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Originally Posted by corkboy360

Alan was well within his rights not to reduce his wages.

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He did agree to reduce his wages, to his credit, why he didn't then sign the agreed contract is what's at issue.

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Originally Posted by corkboy360

Obviously i don't like seeing the club in trouble but they put themselves in this position

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Arkaga = CCFC = Tom Coughlan.
If that's how you see it fair enough, but Tom Coughlan is suffering more than he should have had to from the Arkaga hangover.

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Originally Posted by corkboy360

His money?

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Yes.
If the court rules that he should be given €1million euro, so be it, we should pay it.
But all this talk of what he's owed and how he was treated pre-empting any ruling is a joke IMO.

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Originally Posted by corkboy360

No change with the new owner((s) as we don't know who else is involved with TNB).The same as Arkaga really a manager wins a cup and gets the sac hmm where have i seen that before.

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I knwo who else is involved with TC as of last weekend, no-one else. If he feels that he can't afford the club and in the future wants to bring someone on board as an investor, well it's his club.

As for the comparison to Arkaga, you'd want to cop yourself on. You've a fairly short [or just poor] memory if you can't remember exactly what they did to us.

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Originally Posted by tiktok

Yes.
If the court rules that he should be given €1million euro, so be it, we should pay it.
But all this talk of what he's owed and how he was treated pre-empting any ruling is a joke IMO.



I know who else is involved with TC as of last weekend, no-one else. If he feels that he can't afford the club and in the future wants to bring someone on board as an investor, well it's his club.

As for the comparison to Arkaga, you'd want to cop yourself on. You've a fairly short [or just poor] memory if you can't remember exactly what they did to us.

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Fair enough i know that you would know lot more than the rest of us about whats happening at the minute.

But did Arkaga not get rid of a manager who just won a cup?

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Originally Posted by corkboy360

But did Arkaga not get rid of a manager who just won a cup?

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That's where the comparison starts and ends, beyond that it's unfair.

For the record, I don't believe that Rico should have gone in 2007 and I don't believe that Mathews should have gone in 2008, I think they both deserved another season, but then I was party to the reasons for firing either. Rico's settlement suggests his case was at least partially unfair, Mathews settlement may reveal the same, only time will tell.

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Originally Posted by tiktok

We'll see what fraction of the rumoured €300k he'll end up with, there are two sides to every story and somewhere in between is the truth.

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Bald Student recently loaned Student Mullet €20 in the bar. When asked for it back, Student Mullet claimed that it was Bald Student who owed him €20. Obviously, there are two sides to this story and somewhere in between is the truth.

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Originally Posted by John83

Bald Student recently loaned Student Mullet €20 in the bar. When asked for it back, Student Mullet claimed that it was Bald Student who owed him €20. Obviously, there are two sides to this story and somewhere in between is the truth.

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Yeah, both of them are lying.

No student with €20 would give it away. In a bar.

According to a Cork work colleague here in Dublin, cheques to CURRENT STAFF have started bouncing around Turners Cross. It will be interesting to hear reports from the forum.

This is what he emailed me earlier today. "Cheques have been bouncing since the New Year apparently to current staff. PFAI now getting involved. FAI have warned Coughlan that unless this is rectified in the next week then they will rescind the Premier License."

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Originally Posted by cheech

According to a Cork work colleague here in Dublin, cheques to CURRENT STAFF have started bouncing around Turners Cross. It will be interesting to hear reports from the forum.

This is what he emailed me earlier today. "Cheques have been bouncing since the New Year apparently to current staff. PFAI now getting involved. FAI have warned Coughlan that unless this is rectified in the next week then they will rescind the Premier License."

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That's bull anyway because they have not been in Turners Cross yet :p