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25/11/2008, 1:02 PM
Da Real Rover

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Originally Posted by Sheridan

What were they doing in a nationalist party then? Socialism and nationalism are incompatible.

Thats actually wrong their chief.
Many of the first Soclialist theorists were from exploiter nations and saw the nationalism which encompassed their empires degenerate into jingoism.
How ever many Revolutionary thinkers from the oppressed and exploited nations took a different trail of thought to Nationalsim.
A Mr James Connolly included.
Nationalism can be harnessed for Revolutionary movements in oppressed countrys.
It can be utilised to throw off the shackles of imperialism.
Such an exploitation of Nationalism can be seen in Cuba.
Castro's Revolution had a inherently Nationalist feel to it, coupled with Socialism of course.
One of Castro's idols was actually the nationalist freedom fighter Marti, who inspired Castro.
28/11/2008, 7:30 PM
Lim till i die

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Originally Posted by Da Real Rover

Castro's Revolution had a inherently Nationalist feel to it,

Possibly because most of the Socialism was tacked on afterwards......
29/11/2008, 10:46 AM
BohsPartisan

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Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Possibly because most of the Socialism was tacked on afterwards......

Still a clear difference between progressive anti-imperialist nationalism ideologically speaking and reactionary imperialist/fascist/racist nationalism. I mean, Chavez and Morales both incorporate elements of indigenous nationalism in their Socialism because those people are the most oppressed. The Vietnamese also incorporated elements of nationalism and Socialism. For the record I don't but I can see the attraction and how its clearly far removed from the fascists.
03/12/2008, 1:40 AM
SolitudeRed

Have to laugh at some of the s**te being talked about socialism on here it seems the Blueshirts live on on foot.ie:D

Having had contact with members of the socialist party in Belfast (the same party as Joe Higgins and all) I can assure you that they are not all mad republican bombers in fact a fair few of them were from Protestant/unionist backgrounds although obviously as Socialists they don't have much time for religion.
03/12/2008, 1:43 PM
bennocelt

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Originally Posted by SolitudeRed

Have to laugh at some of the s**te being talked about socialism on here it seems the Blueshirts live on on foot.ie:D

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yeah thats true - and a lot of them wear Blue club colours too - funny that:)
03/12/2008, 5:23 PM
Lim till i die

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Originally Posted by SolitudeRed

Have to laugh at some of the s**te being talked about socialism on here it seems the Blueshirts live on on foot.ie:D

Have to laugh at people who start an argument despite being unable to read properly. :rolleyes:

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yeah thats true - and a lot of them wear Blue club colours too - funny that

The evidence for Limerick being a Loyalist, Facist club:

The name begins with L

The team play in blue

We have an embryonic version of the Billy Boys which manages to offend everyone in earshot.

The evidence against Limerick being a loyalist club:

Er, it isn't........
03/12/2008, 9:32 PM
dahamsta

Lads, stick to the facts and lose the rhetoric please.

We're aiming for a level above the houses of the Oireactas here!

adam
03/12/2008, 10:29 PM
HarpoJoyce

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

Lads, stick to the facts and lose the rhetoric please.

We're aiming for a level above the houses of the Oireactas here!

adam

Rooftop Protest!.

(I bags nearest the open window 'cos its raining this evening and the water is dribbling down my neck.)
04/12/2008, 1:42 AM
SolitudeRed

Bah thats the last time I make a tounge in cheek remark on here you boys are too sensitive! I was merely suggesting that some rather negative sweeping generalisations have been made about those who have a socialist outlook being violent terrorists!

The Blueshirts weren't really fascist anyway they were certainly right wing and exhibited fascist traits yes but that was about the height of it bar O'Duffy most of the leadership and the grassroots had a much more mundane outlook. My Blueshirt remark was refering to the rampant anti-socialism of 1930s Ireland of which the Blueshirts were a product and saying that it still seems to alive and kicking.

As for Limerick being a Loyalist club well you've lost me there!
04/12/2008, 4:40 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

Lads, stick to the facts and lose the rhetoric please.

We're aiming for a level above the houses of the Oireactas here!

adam

If we're going to set standards, at least choose one within a modicum of respectability. A drunken argument in a pub, or a blazing row between spouses maybe. The Oreactas? Ha!
04/12/2008, 5:50 PM
dahamsta

Note the highlighted word.
20/10/2009, 11:43 AM
thischarmingman

Leaked membership list and generals renew pressure on BNP

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The British National Party came under attack from two fronts today as a group of retired generals accused it of hijacking the Armed Forces and its entire membership list was again leaked onto the internet

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6882306.ece

BNP leader Nick Griffin will appear on Question Time this Thursday.
20/10/2009, 11:51 AM
dahamsta

Apparently there's an objection to him appearing on QT, because the party he represents is essentially illegal as it stands.
20/10/2009, 11:54 AM
thischarmingman

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

Apparently there's an objection to him appearing on QT, because the party he represents is essentially illegal as it stands.

Bring him on, I say. Better to lift the rock and shine a bright light under it at the party than let it sit there spewing bile. David Aaronovitch has helpfuly detailed the 'Ten steps to put Nick Griffin on the wrong foot.'
20/10/2009, 11:55 AM
endabob1

Leaked again

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/British_Na...2C_15_Apr_2009

Is it a publicity generation thing I wonder......
20/10/2009, 12:29 PM
Wangball

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

Apparently there's an objection to him appearing on QT, because the party he represents is essentially illegal as it stands.

I think its Peter Hain who raised the objection by sending a letter directly to the BBC

For me personally the only time I want to see Griffin on TV is if he's a contestant on Gladiators and Wolf is beating the carp out of him with a pugil stick
20/10/2009, 3:07 PM
Bluebeard

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Originally Posted by Wangball

For me personally the only time I want to see Griffin on TV is if he's a contestant on Gladiators and Wolf is beating the carp out of him with a pugil stick

Yeah, the fish-eating b@st@rd!
20/10/2009, 4:13 PM
OneRedArmy

I'd love to see who has been stupid enough to join the BNP since the last list was leaked. Talk about deserving what you get :D
20/10/2009, 4:26 PM
Mr A

What I'm hoping for is a bunch of non-white to join once they amend their constitution as ordered by the court.

That'd really **** them off.

On the other hand, there's a lot to be said for having these guys in the open rather than underground.
20/10/2009, 4:56 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by Mr A

What I'm hoping for is a bunch of non-white to join once they amend their constitution as ordered by the court.

That'd really **** them off.

If you were Indian or black or whatever, would you give the BNBP your contact details? Just to make a point?

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