Whatever about Murphy the other two are washed up.Quote:
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Whatever about Murphy the other two are washed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Over the post
anyone got any links to watch it online??
Hoping this will work.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
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Edit. The last one on the page seems to be the best stream. The one just above where it says 'offline'.
cheers SI!!
holy crap - whats happened to Carter!!!!
pretty nerve wracking all the same....
3rd time lucky I suppose. We're under a lot of pressure.
Great kick from O'Gara
that penalty try is sickening - he should have just gone down on the ball.... gonna be very tough now.
Cracking game though.
Game over now...Damn!
too right - hard to be too ****ed off about it though, we were just taught a harsh lesson by a great rugby nation...
If we had gone in 3-3 at half time, it would have made a massive difference to the game. As it was, 10-3 down with 14 men starting the second half was a big mental set back. Even if O'Gara had made it 10-6 it would have been a big boost. On the other hand, we never looked like getting a try, and against a team like New Zealand, who are going to get a big score no matter what, penalties were never going to be enough.
A harsh lesson for the new management team, the honeymoon period is over, and the test against Argentina has to be used to pick the starting XV for the 6 Nations.
Shocking match full of aimless kicking (the ELVs are a joke) & although they were up against the ABs I still think Ireland were really poor. Unable to maintain possession for any period of time & the pack got beaten up. ABs were dominant at the breakdown.
RTE were correct in saying Fitzgerald carries more threat than O'Driscoll - can't remember the last time O'Driscoll made a break.
Men against boys.
We played fairly poorly but even looking at the ABs' you can tell they are a different class. Their body shapes are noticeably different to ours, even the white guys.
The number of times they powered through tackles was unbelieveable, they just have so much strength and explosiveness.
A few positives though, O'Leary was very tidy, I really hope he keeps the jersey.
There's a few lads who really just aren't quick enough for post ELV rugby, Quinlan and Dempsey definitely and I'd agree that Drico needs to start showing something soon as we can't afford to have sacred cows.
Its a difficult one as those guys will probably do ok in the 6 Nations matches but always look off the pace against the Southern hemisphere teams.
I'd be inclined to play Earls, Ferris etc. in the 6 Nations as we really need to start playing a higher tempo game.
Very poor performance. I'd agree with OneRedArmy 100% on the men against boys line. Fitzgerald sparkled now and again with David Wallace his usual self but the rest of them went missing. You cannot keep on missing tackles against those monsters in black because once they scent the try line you know it will be 5 more points on the scoreboard.
I was also very surprised O'Gara went for that kick from the half way line early on in the second half, were we that unsure about the lineout?
ELVs have ensured that attaching lineouts not as attacking as they used to be. I think he just wanted to get some points on the board in the second half.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
I think Kidney has to plan for the next world cup & start blooding a different type of player. Even at our strongest we are not good enough to win the 6 Nations.
Here's a clip from his last game:Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5UGFTLJ6-Y
and one from the game before that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDigYSyR484
Only if your primary method of attack from a lineout was a catch and maul (ie Ireland and England). Quick ball off the top is unaffected by ELVs. Unfortunately our lineout has disintegrated in the last 18 months (regardless of who is hooker) and thats probably the reason we went for the monster kick (also the fact he made the first one).Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Not really relevant to an Ireland discussion. International rugby is a higher standard. Drico isn't doing it with the ball in hand and hasn't for a while. Defensive excellence can only count for so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Student Mullet
That's not quite the same as saying we can't remember his last break when they're happening regularly, which is what I was answering.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
I agree that he had a bad 6 nations last year but he had a very good world cup before it and southern tour after. Saying that we can't remember his last good game and should be replaced by Wallace or Shaggy is a huge exaggeration for anyone who regularly watches the sport.
I disagree that he had a good World Cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Student Mullet
As for who would replace him, Wallace or Shaggy?! :eek::confused:
Earls, Fitzgerald, O'Connor, Cave etc. are the future.
I do still think my point stands, we need a line breaker at 13. I think that can be O'Driscoll (we've all seen what be can do) but he needs to get his game together.
Brings the captaincy issue into question again as could be argued thats whats benefited his Leinster form most.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree so. You can't replace BOD with Fitzgerald since we need 2 centers and Fitz is already filling the other spot. Earls has (I think) one senior game at center, Cave has a few more and is doing quite well but I wouldn't have him in the international team yet. I've only seen O'Connor play 10 so I won't pass judgment on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
I'm fairly sure that if BOD or Fitz picks up an injury during the week it'll be Wallace in the center against Argentina with Shaggy an outside bet.
Edit: I've just remembered that the Ospreys have Tommy Bowe in the center as well. I've not seen him play there so I won't prejudge him.
All this is getting a little away from my original point. Whether O'Driscoll's been playing well is a subjective opinion but it is clearly not true to say that he hasn't made a line break in longer than we can remember. I can back that up with youtube clips from the world cup up to the present day if yee like.