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There is a quality Italian-Albanian keeper with LoI experience that would be available, He is show stopper but covid made it hard to settle in Dundalk. He be a super keeper to replace Mannus, tall, command his area and is a shot stopper. A perfect long term match for Rovers if they could sort a few weakness.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Atakayi is a winger rather than a striker for what it's worth in regards to his stats, so it's not as eyebrow-raising in that sense. Looked a handful when he came on Friday but we'll see how it plays out, not often you pay a fee for a player in this league so that combined with replacing Burns will heap expectation on him.
Shame for Sligo to lose McGinty but it really did only feel like a matter of time.
Well I suppose it's more that he was struggling to get his game in the Finnish top flight and dropped down to the second tier on loan last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack B
Though wiki suggests he was booted out on loan because of "attitude problems", so I guess if that can be fixed (and sometimes a change of scenery will do it), maybe there's a decent player underneath.
McGinty out of contract in November so hardly going to get a fortune for him. He’s owes us nothing. McNicholas is a good replacement.
Im always interested in how these moves come about also as some of them are fantastically random.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
The Atakayi to Pats move is less so though. Our assistant manager Jon Daly was assistant of TPS last season, the team that Atakayi was on loan with. Daly mentioned he also knew him from as far back as his time in Scotland, presumably he would’ve faced him when managing Hearts U20s against Rangers. With that in mind he does seem to be more of a known entity to the coaching staff so that hopefully bodes well although in the past Pat Cregg did play with Martin Rennie and somehow managed to convince the club to pay a transfer fee for him despite being one of the worst players I’ve seen play football. Early doors but Serge looked like he could be a danger for teams based on his debut. Looking forward to seeing more of him
Como have finally announced Liam Kerrigan. Contract until June 2025, great deal for him!
Not quite LOI but Aaron McEneff left Hearts for Australia, really expected him to show more in Scottish football
I think Dundalk were sniffing after him in early 2020, which probably saw an improved contract offered for him to stay, almost sure they went back again in 2021 but of course P6 knew all about LOI football and got Abbi instead, even typing those words gives me nightmares, what an absolute fraud he was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Would surprise me if McGinty had a release clause for a small fig to ensure he got a move, seems a good few players doing this these days to speed up a UK move.
Don’t believe he had a low release fee in his contract
Wonder whether Hearts will bemoan a McEneff shaped hole in their side? A player that should be tracked by LoI clubs as with his ability Oz wont be a long term and content destination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny Kelly
Blackpool put in a 200k bid for Andy Lyons,decent money for a player only there for half a season ….
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Originally Posted by joey B
Or crap money for a LWB who has scored 7 goals this season and been man of the match several times........
I hope we say no.
I Suppose I was comparing it to the fees that other players are going for but I take your point….Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
https://www.transfermarkt.us/league-...wettbewerb/GB3Quote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer
We get well more than the average by the looks of it.......the average being "free transfer" or about 3k if you want the average from what was actually spent. MK Dons have spent more than others and all on LoI players.
Not sure if that site is completely accurate mind you.
You'd wonder where it gets its info from in an era when every transfer seems to be "Undisclosed" (because clubs don't want rival clubs to know how much cash they've just made on a transfer, and so how much is available for the replacement)
Not sure but it seems reasonably accurate for the LoI ones I think? Although even those you wouldn't know. I've heard one thing from fans of the selling clubs and another from elsewhere in most cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Wets finger sticks in the air and ponders for a moment................200k ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Not sure they ever used him properly. Hearts fans seem to either think he wasn't up to the standard or that he didn't fit the system and wasn't really given enough game time. Liked for his effort and a few important goals but they aren't too disappointed to see him gone. When I watched they were using him as an attacking midfielder and even on the right. He's a box to box midfielder so maybe he never got a chance to show what he was about. Either way, I'm just happy he isn't coming home to sign for Derry...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny Kelly
We've been saying the same thing about Roy O'Donovan since 2015.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Would the club let him go for €200,000 when there is a real chance now of group stage football after today’s draw. Obviously you are stronger with him than without him.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Actually read a really interesting article about the player values on transfermartket. It's just a team of volunteers, they had to come out and tell clubs not to use their figures in transfer negotiations. Mad stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
200 seems low but if it was increased a bit more and the add ons and a sell on clause were decent it might make sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
If he does well at Blackpool and scores goals at that level he will for sure be sold on for a lot more than 200k
If we won this round we would be guaranteed group stages so on the one hand you could let him go but on the other we are only 8 points clear and if we are in group stages we will have 11 more midweeks to deal with this season.
Winning the league is still the number 1 objective for me
Did Burton mention anything about fees while you had him? I don't remember him doing so. Found another site showing every league 1 clubs record transfer going back to the 90s and a fair few are under the 200k mark. Even the more recent ones aren't huge. It's click bait central though so I won't share it here.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Yeah but under Caulfield he'd have been coping with ongoing neck injuries, so can understand his stance.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
wasnt played in his strongest position according to fans. why wont oz be a content destination? lifestyle over the is a massive draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
I'd have to listen back but I think he pointed towards the usual sticking points for clubs here ie not being able to offer longer contracts, even the club's that are players don't want to sign them without release clauses now etcQuote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
I think all the clubs here are going to have to come together and forcibly get rid of release clause stuff. It might be rough going for a while with players just running down their contracts instead but a precedent has to be set that they're not an option here.
Was it not only Mandroiu of the recent transfers who had one? Is it that big of an issue? Happens all over the world and we need to be able to offer players attractive packages. Sometimes that will mean release clauses. I would agree that those clauses should be closer to market value for the club and players benefit after seeing 30k for Danny being laughed at by a Bundesliga club to his own detriment.
Devoy had one as well. There was a lot of them involved in moves during the winter window too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
Promise off to Fleetwood looks done. Another release clause deal apparently.
any idea how much, Fleetwood cant be a big opportunity for Promise you would thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by RealJohn91
we're now basically a feeder league for League One in England
five figureQuote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Adam O’Reillys loan from Preston has been extended until the end of the season.
Great newsQuote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
any idea on a fee for kerrigan?
A release clause of 140k? That's not bad really unless he was on a long term deal. When announced it was just for 2022 I thought? You'd know better but hasn't he struggled a bit this year? Could be wrong on both counts.Quote:
Originally Posted by RealJohn91
So Devoy, McGinty and Mandroiu had clauses from this window maybe? Sligo fans?
Did any of them have long term deals? I think that's our main problem to be honest. Until clubs offer players the security of multi year deals they are going to want release clauses so they can go get them elsewhere, particularly with our season lining up as it does with the English window. Although I suppose you could argue that there should absolutely not be any release clauses in shorter term deals. Again though the short term deal dictates the market value and 140k for Devoy isn't bad if he was able to leave in a free in 6 months. So as long as the clause is close to market value I don't have an issue. Promise is worth more than a five figure sum though. Again you'd know better but he has seemed far more dangerous than Devoy this season from what I've seen. Mandroius clause was a joke all the same. Nowhere close to his market value even with an expiring contract.
I like that we've signed O'Reilly up for the rest of the season but I think I must be the only Pats fan that isn't completely convinced by him. He brings incredible energy to midfield that I'm not sure any midfielder in the league can match but his quality on the ball is inconsistent at best and semi-often causes problems, even beyond the obvious recent one against Dundalk. Great player to have in the squad but I don't think he has the quality you'd want from a midfielder in a team with the expectations we have.
McGinty is out of contract in November and is 23 next month so would have gotten nothing for him. Contract signed 2 years ago. No release clause that I’ve heard of.Quote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
Johnny Kenny signed a new contract in November with a release clause and was gone in January when the fee was met
John Mahon signed one in December and same issue
Kenny went for 150k? Were you unhappy with that? Or was it worth getting him on a pro deal and getting his goals plus the 150k versus losing him on a free earlier or later?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
I wonder what the release clauses do for add ons. Do they remove our ability to include sell on fees and appearance fees or are those things baked in to any offer? You'd hope so.