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Originally Posted by Crosby87
(i think ive told people here this before but theres a reason i moved to a city called Regina in an area known as Windsor Park just off Prince Of Wales Drive.)
God, it doesnt get any less embarrassing to admit...
Looks like I'll be going to train in Regina for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Stu. Just how small of a town is Regina? I've only been there once, and it was only for a weekend.
Ha! No way! It's about 210,000 big and has probably come a long way from when you were here. 2nd fastest growing city in Canada behind Saskatoon/Shelbyville ;) It's a good city. How long is your training for? Well have to meet up for pints when you get here. Don't forget that grand you owe me................ ;)
210k? Christ, that is small. Six months of training at their depot, no idea when I'll be sent there, probably later this year though, hopefully after the summer is over.
Do you play football there? Is the standard half decent?
What's this thread, a dating service? :D
James appears to have deleted his Twitter account again after a "brief but frank" meeting with Martin O'Neill: http://balls.ie/football/james-mccle....aNu5SXpy.dpuf
When James decided to return to the site whilst on international duty for the Poland game, O'Neill had the following to say:Quote:
James McClean’s return to Twitter has been a short-lived one. After an innocent tweet about his favourite Wolfe Tones song inspired an angsty response from the DUP MP Gregory Campbell, Martin O’Neill met with McClean Monday, and by all accounts, told him to shut down the account.
Via the Daily Mail:
The move to delete his account is understood to have been made on club advice, and after a brief but frank meeting with manager Martin O’Neill on Monday.
It comes after the Republic of Ireland star professed his love for song The Broad Black Brimmer by The Wolfe Tones prior to Sunderland’s game against West Bromwich Albion at the weekend.
McClean had tweeted about Campbell’s comments by saying: “Accordin to gregory campbell i shouldnt be allowed to listen to wolftones ha.. someone give greg a tissue and a big hug from me”. McClean returned to Twitter in January after quitting in the wake of his tweet from Astana and the row over his decision not to wear a poppy, but to us, this seems like a ridiculous crackdown on personal expression. Is it really sectarian to state your favourite Wolfe Tones song is ‘Broad Black Brimmer’? Does this offend people in 2013? Or could it be that Campbell, also a Derry man, knew that McClean is lightning rod for controversy and picked up on a throwaway tweet to get himself more headlines and galvinise his constituency?
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Is he maturing? No. He has gone back on Twitter, even against advice of the club. I have to say maybe he will look out for himself then.
i should be so lucky! swit swoo.Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
Done. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Sent this off to the Derry Journal/Irish News yesterday:
Somewhat inspired by NB's observation, in fact. I hope he doesn't mind.Quote:
In light of Gregory Campbell's recent mock-outraged condemnation of James McClean's taste in Irish rebel music and his subsequent demand that McClean act as an example for our youth, I must ask: from where does this notion arise that footballers - private individuals performing their profession with no contractual duty or obligation to members of the public - ought to be examples for our society's young?
What of elected public representatives then? Of course, Campbell used to carry a gun himself and was a strong advocate of a shoot-to-kill policy back in the mid-1980s. Whether or not his views have softened somewhat since then, his contemporary dialogue is still tainted with a deep sense of bitterness and antagonism that only serves to further fuel local division.
It is telling that Campbell saw fit only to be "offended" by McClean's tweet about his favourite Wolfe Tones song. Fellow Irish internationals, David Meyler and Darren O'Dea, also tweeted about their admiration of the Wolfe Tones on the same day, but I suppose there is little mileage to be had for Campbell in attacking Cork or Dublin footballers of lesser "media notoriety".
There is also a rich irony in this episode; perhaps more fitting targets for Campbell's criticism this week would have been the fans of his beloved Glasgow Rangers who, once again, provoked negative headlines after engaging in the singing of pro-UVF chants during their club's game at Berwick Rangers broadcast live on television last Saturday. The only reason McClean was making headlines again was because of Campbell's needless cherry-picking.
This is a good read: http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/...ain-in-role-of
You should send it to the Bellylaugh as well.
Ya, send where it does only get one-sided coverage. The Ballycroy Bugle too.
And the Mullarany Mail.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Actually, they've been surprisingly 'even-handed' when it comes to comments on their articles and are now derided by most unionists/loyalists for being so...Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
That's a really annoying mistake to make, how did you possibly include that superfluous "a" there?Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
You got me thinking here. Having friends from Currane (and one of the denizens here has a mother from Ballycroy) I have always called it Mullranny.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
But I've seen it written as Mallaranny and a quick look at Google Maps will show both.
Here's what the official word is on it...
http://www.logainm.ie/Viewer.aspx?te...ny&streets=yes
Done.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Done.Quote:
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...Wait.Quote:
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Remember Stu, the Mounties always get their man!Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Beautiful part of the world, God's own country!Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
O' Neill supposedly getting tired of McClean's behaviour and has fined him two weeks wages. Interesting article as while it is probably a beat up, if O'Neill is getting upset by McClean's behaviour, IMO he should not be punished for the actions of some idiot politician. However, if he is not getting on with his team mates, that's another issue.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-29099880.html
He's being punished for breaching the club's social networking site rules. He shouldn't be on Twitter at all, as far as Sunderland are concerned, irrespective what he's tweeting or who's feigning outrage.
More info on the following would be welcome, although it does sound like an unsubstantiated attempt to sensationalise his reticent personal nature:
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It is understood that McClean has annoyed team-mates with his attitude in training and is in danger of becoming ostracised.
Coaching staff have noted his aloofness and O'Neill is wary of rifts growing. Unless there is a marked improvement between now and the end of the season, McClean is likely to be sold in the summer.
Granted he is being punished for breaking team rules, but if O'Neill is getting frustrated by McClean because of his relationship, or lack of, with his team mates then there is certainly room for concern.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Not disagreeing with you on that point, but where are the quotes/who are the sources?
The reason why I am expressing concern is O'Neill has more understanding of McClean than possibly any other manager in football and I hope that if there is any issue between them that it gets resolved asap.
Agree with you completely, but O'Neill will know McClean's background and how he thinks, and I'd imagine McClean would hold a mutual respect for O'Neill in return. Hence, I don't think a dispute between the two is likely, nor do I feel any disagreement would be allowed to run too deeply. For that reason, and until there's something more concrete than what "coaching staff have noted", allegedly, I'm content enough to see the story as an attempt to blow things slightly out of proportion.
I've never heard of McClean being aloof, have to say. Quiet and shy sure but not aloof. Always would be concerns with McClean that he'd struggle to integrate though. He's very much a homebird. Hence why he's always back in Derry and partly why best mate Eugene Ferry was shipped off to Sunderland.
Possible this kind of inwardness could be construed as aloofness or at least hinder his relationships with teammates.
Sorry for going off-topic but I had never read it like that before and if you search either the recommendation is Mulranny, but the wiki page spells it the way you did it in the content, but the title is "Mulranny". From what I remember the signposts are the same way as I spelt it. Its the Mulranny Park hotel too!Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Anyway, Ronaldo wasn't liked anywhere but it didn't really matter did it? I think McClean just isn't good enough and if they sell him in the summer it will be because of that. Any aloofness or whatever else he was at last year, wouldn't have been negated because of his performances.
Very much so. I think a lot of Irish lads have that, you can see it in GAA clubs abroad as well, comes across as a bit aloof or ignorant or don't make an effort to engage in conversation, but a lot of the time its a quiteness/awkwardness/shyness.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
If you look on wiki one of their genres is "Pan-Celticism". Never heard that one before. What kind of music do you play? Oh, you know, Pan Celticism. We also have a crepe restaurant with that name.
And in accordance with an earlier conversation last year, would that be Celtisism as in Celtic the Celtic Cross or Celtic the Boston Celtics? I never know the answer to these.
As in Celtic Cross.
If it originated in Eire its the "k", otherwise its the "C"
I await CD or tets to come out and provide the exception to this :D
Belfast Celtic, Cork Celtic.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
"Why is Celtic pronounced Seltic rather than Keltic, as it is in every other context?": http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Ce...+Pronunciation
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From the Guardian:
A tricky one this. Ed Mortimer started us off. "The answer is simple," he said. "We are wrong to pronounce the word Keltic. It's one of those words where the pronunciation has changed for some reason in one context but not in others. Following the general rule that 'c' followed by 'e' or 'i' is pronounced as an 's', we have Seltik, as in the football club. The same pronunciation used to apply to the adjective describing the ancient inhabitants of the western fringes of Europe, including parts of modern-day Scotland, England, Ireland, Wales, France and Spain. The 's' pronunciation still applies in French, Breton and Galician - but for some reason English has changed to the keltic variant. Put simply, the football club pronunciation is the right one."
Graeme Gardiner offered an alternative view. "Celtic were founded in 1888 to benefit the Irish immigrant population of Glasgow's east end. The name Celtic was chosen to reflect the common roots of the Scots and Irish, who were on the receiving end of considerable sectarian prejudice. Unfortunately the name wasn't used much outside academic circles and was simply mispronounced by the local population. Of course the de facto pronunciation among the faithful is Sellick."
However, the truth, if it is to be had, seemed to be that both pronunciations are ostensibly correct, with Keltic having become the more accepted usage only in the last 30 years. Celtic, having been formed in the last century, naturally retained the Seltic pronunciation. This from the Medieval Scotland website, which a number of readers kindly pointed out:
"The reason the Boston Celtics and Glasgow Celtic and all those other sports teams founded around 1900 (give or take a couple decades) pronounce their names Seltic is not because they were founded by ignorant folk who didn't know any better, but because they spoke English and did know the proper pronunciation of the English word 'Celtic'.
"So what happened? Well, any number of things might explain why the in-crowd pronunciation shifted to Keltic (such as the German influence on Celtic studies, which was strong in the 19th- and early 20th-centuries) but the upshot is that it is now fashionable - almost obligatory - in certain circles to pronounce the word with a K sound rather than the original S sound. In fact, in certain circles (both in and out of academia) it is something of a litmus test - if you don't use the K sound, it will be assumed you are not knowledgeable about things Celtic. But the one and only reason Keltic is now one of the correct pronunciations of the word is because that is how many educated people pronounce it. That is the only logic in the Keltic pronunciation's favour. The standard rules of English, the rules of language, long use and practice, all argue in favour of Seltic, not Keltic. But it still remains that Seltic is a long-established, traditional pronunciation of the word in English. There is absolutely nothing wrong with pronouncing Celtic as Seltic."
Wiki:
The pronunciation of the initial c in the English words Celt and Celtic in their various meanings can be realised either as /k/ or /s/ (that is, either hard or soft). Both can be justified philologically and both are "correct" in English prescriptive usage.
Although the word originated in an early Continental Celtic language, it came to English via Greek (Keltoi), where it is spelled with a kappa; thus /k/ is the original pronunciation. This was borrowed into Latin (Celtae), where it was likewise pronounced with /k/. However in the transition from Classical Latin to Vulgar Latin and early Romance, this sound shifted to /tʃ/, a process known as palatalisation, and in French further to /s/. Under French influence, the practice c representing /s/, when used before the vowels "i" and "e," in words of Latin origin became established in English, as for example celestial, cilia, and Cicero. Thus /s/ is the inherited pronunciation in English for these words.
Until the mid-20th century, Celtic was usually pronounced with /s/ in English except by academics, but the pronunciation with /k/ has been gaining ground recently. Following the usage of philologists, /k/ is now almost invariably used with reference to Celtic culture even in non-academic contexts.
However, the /s/ pronunciation remains the most recognised form when it occurs in the names of sports teams, most notably Celtic Football Club and the Boston Celtics basketball team.
Thanks Danny, this one always baffled me.
I thought K would have something do with Irish or Irish Gaelic, hence my initial post.
No Offence Danny but that seems to be mainly opinion based what you posted there.
Transpires McClean wasn't even fined and deleted his Twitter voluntarily: http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/...underland-bossQuote:
Originally Posted by gastric
O'Neill also stated James was training well, so I'd hazard a guess the rest of that Independent piece is a load of overblown nonsense as well then.Quote:
The former Derry City winger has voluntarily come off Twitter and the Black Cats' boss insists that the player has not been fined for his behaviour
Sunderland manager Martin O'Neill has dismissed reports that James McClean was fined by the club after a politician criticised the player's taste in music.
The 23-year-old winger was subject to criticism from Gregory Campbell, a Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) Member of Parliament (MP) after expressing his enjoyment of the Irish folk band The Wolfe Tones, on Twitter.
Reports emerged that McClean had subsequently been forced off the social networking site and fined by the club, with suggestions that there were issues with the player's attitude both on and off the pitch.
However, O'Neill has quashed the reports, stressing that the player was training well, and insisted that McClean had not been fined by the club.
"I'll deal with things internally, but he hasn't been fined," O’Neill told the Evening Chronicle. "James has voluntarily come off Twitter and I think he now feels that concentrating totally on football issues is the most important thing for him."
He continued: "Sometimes when you are tweeting you might feel as if you're speaking to three or four friends, but this is for public consumption.
"I think he realises the best thing is to leave things alone and concentrate on footballing issues. That's very important in a game which can be excellent for you, but if you take your eye off the ball, you can disappear very, very quickly," added the Black Cats' boss.
Fair point. Don't shoot the messenger. :)Quote:
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Grrr. You forgot the mighty Ardee Celtic...
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My letter made the Journal's website: http://www.derryjournal.com/news/let...ones-1-4843307
Not sure if it's in today's published edition. No sign of it on the Belfast Telegraph website, from what I can make out. I don't think the Irish News publish their letters online and I can't find websites for the Ballycroy Bugle and the Mullarany Mail. I must be spelling that wrong or something...
Why did you get rid of this bit? Or did the journal remove it, if they did you should have shown proof of the piece you provided earlier, that way they couldn't or shouldn't remove it.Quote:
What of elected public representatives then? Of course, Campbell used to carry a gun himself and was a strong advocate of a shoot-to-kill policy back in the mid-1980s. Whether or not his views have softened somewhat since then, his contemporary dialogue is still tainted with a deep sense of bitterness and antagonism that only serves to further fuel local division.
The Journal removed that section, annoyingly. Also telling that they saw fit to edit in "[Mr]" ahead of every mention of Campbell's name, lest he'd catch wind and take offence of my frightful irreverence. :rolleyes: Are they scared he'll sue them or something? My comments were based on the video in which Campbell is interviewed posted up-thread. I e-mailed it to them as it was posted here, and still have the e-mail. What do you mean by "show proof"? How and to whom?