Cork City denied a licence; club to be wound up; FORAS to enter First Division

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15/01/2010, 12:12 PM
weecountyman

One question that I think everyone should ask, if TNB loses his licence bid, will be then go into the 1st or A. If so, he retains the name of CCFC?

One other question, what happens to Roddy? Will FORAS hire him? (Maybe this answers itself)
15/01/2010, 12:26 PM
oriel

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Originally Posted by brendy_�ire

Player-wise, Drogheda managed it last season.

You can include us in this situation now, current squad = 4 and that includes a keeper.
15/01/2010, 12:38 PM
eelmonster

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Originally Posted by oriel

You can include us in this situation now, current squad = 4 and that includes a keeper.

We had only 8 players signed this time last year, and Singh, Heary, Mansaram were among them.

Thankfully no Connor this time around.
15/01/2010, 12:46 PM
passerrby

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Originally Posted by tiktok

Mystery benefactor is owed at least �150k.

poor frank and irene
15/01/2010, 12:48 PM
Buile Shuibhne

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Originally Posted by weecountyman

One question that I think everyone should ask, if TNB loses his licence bid, will be then go into the 1st or A. If so, he retains the name of CCFC?

If he lose his current Premier Div licence on the various financial issues, he won't get a licence for any division.
15/01/2010, 12:49 PM
tiktok

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Originally Posted by weecountyman

One question that I think everyone should ask, if TNB loses his licence bid, will be then go into the 1st or A. If so, he retains the name of CCFC?

One other question, what happens to Roddy? Will FORAS hire him? (Maybe this answers itself)

If TNB doesn't get a licence, FORAS have applied for an 'A' Championship licence, but since New Derry City are being encouraged to pursue a 1st Divsion licence I'm sure there are conversations to be had.

IF CCIFL is wound up the Liquidator will try to dispose of the trading name as an asset to repay creditors, TNB can't keep it. The Crest/Rebel Army Logo are also asset, if anyone wants them, player contracts have been broken so many times I doubt they can be classed as assets.
15/01/2010, 12:50 PM
tiktok

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Originally Posted by passerrby

poor frank and irene

That rumour is so 2009.
100% was not the FAI who bailed Coughlan out, though they certainly helped out in underwriting the loan agqainst prize money etc.
15/01/2010, 12:58 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Buile Shuibhne

If he lose his current Premier Div licence on the various financial issues, he won't get a licence for any division.

Didn't Cobh not get any licence for 2009 and yet end up in the A League? Worst case scenario for Cork - no licence but TNB allowed operate in the A League.

Though I think Revenue will take care of everything.
15/01/2010, 1:02 PM
blackholesun

I cant see the revenue or judge taking any crap this time. The revenue must be raging after the stunt pulled the last time if they have to re-apply so quickly. Hopefully FORAS can buy the name and pick up the pieces in the A championship or first division.

bhs
15/01/2010, 1:07 PM
HammerNThongs

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Originally Posted by blackholesun

I cant see the revenue or judge taking any crap this time. The revenue must be raging after the stunt pulled the last time if they have to re-apply so quickly. Hopefully FORAS can buy the name and pick up the pieces in the A championship or first division.

bhs

That's the thing, it's no guarantee. Other investors may go for it too, but we can hope.
15/01/2010, 1:15 PM
Mr A

New avatar time methinks :)
15/01/2010, 1:25 PM
marinobohs

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Originally Posted by blackholesun

I cant see the revenue or judge taking any crap this time. The revenue must be raging after the stunt pulled the last time if they have to re-apply so quickly. Hopefully FORAS can buy the name and pick up the pieces in the A championship or first division.

bhs

Ah, but it will all be different when Roddy tells them about the guaranteed licence ;)
15/01/2010, 1:25 PM
culloty82

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Originally Posted by blackholesun

I cant see the revenue or judge taking any crap this time. The revenue must be raging after the stunt pulled the last time if they have to re-apply so quickly. Hopefully FORAS can buy the name and pick up the pieces in the A championship or first division.

bhs

That's the key issue, whatever club emerges needs to be able to apply for the First Division, Cobh will testify to the difficulties clubs face in the A Championship.
15/01/2010, 2:46 PM
S�C

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Originally Posted by D24Hoop

We'll assume you are being clandestine then shall we? Are you a FORAS member yourself? If not, why not? FORAS have been in touch with us for advisement well over a year, plenty of time to get structures in place.

I really hope he is a member or we're all in a lot of trouble!!!;)
15/01/2010, 2:49 PM
Infadel

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Originally Posted by marinobohs

Ah, but it will all be different when Roddy tells them about the guaranteed licence ;)

or maybe Coughlan might try the chewbacca defence.
15/01/2010, 2:49 PM
Conroy

If the Club is wound up, The European place will be void? Am i right in thinking Dundalk are next in line?
15/01/2010, 3:03 PM
James

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Originally Posted by S�C

I really hope he is a member or we're all in a lot of trouble!!!;)

thats something definitely worth checking out alright
15/01/2010, 3:05 PM
tiktok

I've had the theme tune to Countdown in my head all day :eek:
15/01/2010, 3:32 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by tiktok

I've had the theme tune to Countdown in my head all day :eek:

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Now it's stuck in mine too. You *******.
15/01/2010, 7:14 PM
Martinho II

The previous question wasnt answered though.. If Foras get ownership of the club would they keep Ploddy Collins?
15/01/2010, 7:19 PM
micls

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Originally Posted by Martinho II

The previous question wasnt answered though.. If Foras get ownership of the club would they keep Ploddy Collins?

Silly to eve ask given that noone knows who'd be running anything yet.

There'd be nothing to keep though, his contract would be invalid and I doubt he could be afforded by and A championship team.

id imagine a local partime manager would be the only option.

However, as i said those would be decisions for the person put in charge of running the club day to day, general manager and board of management. No member could tell you that now given that we dont even know who'd be on the board or GM.
15/01/2010, 7:24 PM
Martinho II

I would safely say that Dave Hill will be one of the candidates if the new Cork City gets approval?? He has already managed in the A league with Cobh Ramblers which would be a help to ye if ye get into the A league..
15/01/2010, 7:46 PM
The Lep

Who gets their euro place if they are refused into the compo. ?
15/01/2010, 8:33 PM
Onefootednopace

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Originally Posted by The Lep

Who gets their euro place if they are refused into the compo. ?

The wounded animal is struggling for its existence and the vultures are circling already.
15/01/2010, 8:39 PM
Mr A

http://www.corkcityfc.ie/

Hehehe.
15/01/2010, 8:40 PM
The Lep

Will it be a team from our league or will it be given to somewhere else ?
15/01/2010, 8:42 PM
kdjaC

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Originally Posted by The Lep

Who gets their euro place if they are refused into the compo. ?

Pats , its like a rule.
15/01/2010, 9:02 PM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by The Lep

Will it be a team from our league or will it be given to somewhere else ?

I think Moldova get first refusal.
15/01/2010, 9:27 PM
holidaysong

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Originally Posted by The Lep

Who gets their euro place if they are refused into the compo. ?

Dundalk FC get it.
15/01/2010, 9:31 PM
passerrby

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Originally Posted by holidaysong

Dundalk FC get it.

or else
15/01/2010, 9:53 PM
sheao

Honestly am sick to death of Tommy's " Cork City Fc" at this stage. He has made us the laughing stock of the league and i'm hopeing that the club will be liquidated. Starting from scratch with FORAS or whoever we can try and secure a long term future for football in Cork.
16/01/2010, 12:02 AM
paudie

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Originally Posted by holidaysong

Dundalk FC get it.

provided ye get the Euro licence of course;)
16/01/2010, 12:40 AM
Hairy Bowsie

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Originally Posted by sheao

Honestly am sick to death of Tommy's "Cork City Fc" at this stage. He has made us the laughing stock of the league

Credit where it's due though because given the last 10 years of this league or from The Marney affair until now and everything in between, thats no mean feat.
16/01/2010, 1:28 AM
Magicme

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Originally Posted by Mr A

http://www.corkcityfc.ie/

Hehehe.

I know I have been drinking. I clicked on the link and was like, "hey there is nothing there, what is Mr A doing....oh right"

I bet they could hear the penny drop in Cork.
16/01/2010, 5:21 AM
holidaysong

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Originally Posted by paudie

provided ye get the Euro licence of course;)

Didn't you see the post by passerrby!? :eek:
16/01/2010, 6:07 AM
weecountyman

I don't get this, a couple of pages back the website was paid for, now it's not! Tom and co decided to humiliate the webmaster into panicking and not accepting payment or something?

Roddy had lots to say on radio last evening, newstalk, haven't heard it in full, anyone know what he was on about?
16/01/2010, 7:49 AM
tiktok

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Originally Posted by weecountyman

I don't get this, a couple of pages back the website was paid for, now it's not! Tom and co decided to humiliate the webmaster into panicking and not accepting payment or something?

Webmaster has/had no reason to panic.
He requested money owed and was badly treated so took down the site, he's such a good guy that he left email addresses up so that commercial manager etc., could continue to do their job. Unfortunately, staff were instructed to use those accounts to send out the disgraceful statement, so ghe email addresses are gone down too.

Also, it was mentioned Previously, Tom Coughlan didn't pay the money owed last time. Danny Drew did.
16/01/2010, 10:34 AM
passerrby

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Originally Posted by tiktok

Webmaster has/had no reason to panic.
He requested money owed and was badly treated so took down the site, he's such a good guy that he left email addresses up so that commercial manager etc., could continue to do their job. Unfortunately, staff were instructed to use those accounts to send out the disgraceful statement, so ghe email addresses are gone down too.

Also, it was mentioned Previously, Tom Coughlan didn't pay the money owed last time. Danny Drew did.

what a shoddy way to treat a loyal worker and supporter. anyway was reading todays papers and John D is calling for tnb to stand down, at this stage will that save cork.
16/01/2010, 10:41 AM
Longfordian

I don't think Tom is paying too much attention to the wishes of the FAI these days. The only way he'll be gone is if Cork are wound up. As said previously he'll no doubt seek to have the winding up hearing adjourned for a few weeks. If they don't get a Licence I'd expect another court challenge, on whatever flimsy grounds he can come up with.
16/01/2010, 11:34 AM
SMorgan

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Originally Posted by weecountyman

Roddy had lots to say on radio last evening, newstalk, haven't heard it in full, anyone know what he was on about?

What programme on NewsTalk was he on??

Off the Ball???

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