Stephen Ireland

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Originally Posted by third policeman

What mystifies me about this thread is the number of people who claim to be "over Stephen Ireland / Manchester" when they are quite clearly not.

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I think I speak for most of us on here when i say that we would give anything to represent our country and to see a fellow Irishman treat the opportunity to represent his country like this is hard to fathom. Yes he has had his problems in the past, but the issue is why now does he feel he cannot represent his country, i dont think a valid reason has been provided by SI, while on the other hand he is playing top notch stuff week in week out for his club.

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Originally Posted by TheBoss

Well, his actions prove that he does not care about the National Team.

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yea, but so what? He doesn't want to play for his country, thats his choice/problem, its not the end of the world

Im no fan of Irelands exile, to be honest i find it a disgrace on his part. But i must say Stephen Hunt is realy really making the situation much much worse. He came onto Ryan tubridys show a few months back and said some silly things about Ireland that really didnt need to be said. Im just after seeing him on TV3 news now, saying he is baffled as to why Ireland is still wont play and how he doesnt think he will get a great reception if he returns. there is no bloody need for Hunt to say this and by doing say he is no doubt reducing the chances of Ireland returning.

Maybe Hunt just doesn't want him to return.

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Originally Posted by carloz

Im no fan of Irelands exile, to be honest i find it a disgrace on his part. But i must say Stephen Hunt is realy really making the situation much much worse. He came onto Ryan tubridys show a few months back and said some silly things about Ireland that really didnt need to be said. Im just after seeing him on TV3 news now, saying he is baffled as to why Ireland is still wont play and how he doesnt think he will get a great reception if he returns. there is no bloody need for Hunt to say this and by doing say he is no doubt reducing the chances of Ireland returning.

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Hunt is a liability on the field and is now proving to be off it as well. If the price of getting Ireland back is dropping Hunt (not that it is) I would be more than happy to pay it. He is frankly the most inept and self-deluded footballer ever to pull on an Ireland shirt. .

Stephen Hunt has far too much to say for himself. I also didnt like his dishonesty on the field regarding that 'ghost goal' during the weekend.

Another goal for Ireland tonight, they're drawng 2-2 with Brighton in extra time.

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Originally Posted by Longfordian

Another goal for Ireland tonight, they're drawng 2-2 with Brighton in extra time.

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Well they got knocked out by Brighton in the end, the Carling Cup equivalent of Cypus.

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Maybe Hunt just doesn't want him to return.

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To be fair you're ascribing to Stephen Hunt a degree of forethought I doubt he could muster.
Hunt gives his all in the Ireland shirt, is an honest pro and does his best every time. That said, if the rulers of Rigel VII sent Kodos and Kang back to collect just one specimen idiot they'd overlook Homer for our Hunty.

As has been discussed before on here when he appeared on Tubridy ...he has no inner voice ...he thinks something and verbalises it instantaneously -completely devoid of the form of social censorship most people use to put a more presentable form on the whim that has just crossed their mind. It's actually quite facinating to watch in a Wow-he's-a-complete-****ing-moron kind of way.

For all that, I'd have a team of Hunts ahead of having to drop the one we have to accomodate someone who just doesn't want to be there badly enough.

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Originally Posted by carloz

Im no fan of Irelands exile, to be honest i find it a disgrace on his part. But i must say Stephen Hunt is realy really making the situation much much worse. He came onto Ryan tubridys show a few months back and said some silly things about Ireland that really didnt need to be said. Im just after seeing him on TV3 news now, saying he is baffled as to why Ireland is still wont play and how he doesnt think he will get a great reception if he returns. there is no bloody need for Hunt to say this and by doing say he is no doubt reducing the chances of Ireland returning.

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And if Stephen Manchester was playing for his country these questions would never be posed by journalists, FFS its all SM's problem, and blaming others is taking the **** big time

Stephen Hunt wants to play for his country and does so.


Stephen Manchester has refused to play for his country numerous times and and under 4 different managers.


And some people say the problem is with Stephen Hunt.

When Stephens hair grows back he will play for Ireland.
Has anyone a cure for the egghead.
Are Irish People abnormally abhorrent of follically challenged footballers.
I suggest a national day of hair removal from Irish football fans and slap head buffing.
If this does not get Stephen back then we must try changing the name of the country because maybe he is unhappy that we have the affront to call the country after him.;)

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Originally Posted by Pauro 76

Stephen Hunt has far too much to say for himself. I also didnt like his dishonesty on the field regarding that 'ghost goal' during the weekend.

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Just reading his comments on the papoer about it now. He said that later on in the game when he was taking a corner, the linesman asked him 'Did i make a mistake, was it a goal?'. Hunt replied that he got it right and that it was a goal. Thats a very very *****ish thing to do. Nothing could have been done about it then so why didnt he just say the truth to the poor linesman. Basically it was a ***** trick what he did. Im losing my respect for the guy

From the Herald. http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/in...s-1481951.html

EC: Stephen Ireland is playing very well for his club. What are the chances of him rejoining the national squad under Trapattoni?

SH: If he comes back to Ireland then it will only add extra competition for the squad. He's let us down a bit but he'll be welcomed back once he wants to be there. That's the most important thing. If he wants to be there then fair enough. But if he doesn't want to be there, then, 'Sod you.' If you don't want to be there then there's nothing you can do. We can't drag him along. He's on fire at the moment. He's playing very well, having seen the game last week.

He's always had that ability. But he needs to have the right attitude.

The way Irish people are, if you give a hundred percent then they're generally okay with you. They never really have a go at you. So if he comes back all guns blazin' then he'll be welcomed back. No doubt about it. If Ronaldo can get welcomed back to Man United after what he said and done during the summer, then Stephen Ireland can play for Ireland again. That's for sure. Not a bother, like. The reception Ronaldo got from the United fans says it all. They want to see you playing for that shirt and they're greedy when it comes to it. No matter what kind of person you are or things like that.

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

From the Herald. http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/in...s-1481951.html

They never really have a go at you. So if he comes back all guns blazin' then he'll be welcomed back. No doubt about it. If Ronaldo can get welcomed back to Man United after what he said and done during the summer, then Stephen Ireland can play for Ireland again. That's for sure. Not a bother, like.

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I may have traduced Stephen Hunt, but these comments make a nonsense of those who suggest his return would demoralise his team mates. Still think that this is a problem that could be sorted with a modicum of common sense and diplomacy. He is far too good to be left out of our team, and to suggest that its all up to him to "prove himself", "apologise", "do penance", "make the first move" etc is oversimplistic and unrealistic. Even if all the "blame" rests with Ireland, it doesn't mean that noone else has a responsibility to mediate or help resolve the matter. When I see the paucity and lack of creativity in our midfield and then watch Ireland destroying Portsmouth it's massively frustrating. Brady, Trap the FAI should be making every effort to understand and try to resolve his problem. Lots of you clearly think that this amounts to indulging an immature and irritating egotist, but that's what mangement is about. Hughes and Man City seem to be able to manage and motivate Ireland and we cant.

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Originally Posted by third policeman

Still think that this is a problem that could be sorted with a modicum of common sense and diplomacy.

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Common sense and diplomacy. Examples please and please highlight what more the FAI need to do here that they haven't already done.

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Originally Posted by third policeman

He is far too good to be left out of our team, and to suggest that its all up to him to "prove himself", "apologise", "do penance", "make the first move" etc is oversimplistic and unrealistic.

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He doesn't need to apologise because he's a better footballer than our other options? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by third policeman

Even if all the "blame" rests with Ireland, it doesn't mean that noone else has a responsibility to mediate or help resolve the matter.

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Has mediation not already taken place? Or do you know something that nobody else knows.

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Originally Posted by third policeman

When I see the paucity and lack of creativity in our midfield and then watch Ireland destroying Portsmouth it's massively frustrating. Brady, Trap the FAI should be making every effort to understand and try to resolve his problem. Lots of you clearly think that this amounts to indulging an immature and irritating egotist, but that's what mangement is about. Hughes and Man City seem to be able to manage and motivate Ireland and we cant.

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Give examples of where Brady and Trap, the FAI and everybody else have not tried to coax, mediate or whatever you wish to call, Stephen Ireland back into the Irish fold.

It's a closed book. MOVE ON!

I think another point is that in managment you have to be flexible but you also have to show that you are no push over and that people cannot take the **** and there has to be discipline.

That is why Stephen Manchester must been seen to apoligise to the players and fans and to the manament team. If you let one bad egg destory the rules and disciplinary structures in place you can destroy the whole team ethic.

I could not find one person in Montenegro who was sympathetic to Stephen Mancheter's cause.

Personally, if Stephen Ireland publicly apologised, I'd be happy to see him back. Although I've lost a bit of respect for Hunt, two players who clearly don't like each other can play well for the team. Example that springs to mind, Sheringham and Cole. They despised each other, but were a very successful partnership, who's to say both cant' play in the same team?

If Stephen Ireland made it clear he wants to play for Ireland and is willing to give it 100%, I'm sure Trap would welcome him back.

However I don't think he would make our starting 11 - esp. with the way Trapattoni has organised how we play. So tbh he can stay in Manchester and save the FAI from chartering a private jet in his honour.

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Originally Posted by ifk101

However I don't think he would make our starting 11 - esp. with the way Trapattoni has organised how we play.

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Ah I'd say he would alright, and I'm no fan of Stephen Manchester. Prolly on the right side seeing how Duff is always crocked. It would be between Hunt and McGeady for the left spot. Just speculation on my part but I reckon he would be somewhere in the first 11