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I'm not at all surprised that Utd are willing to let Brown and Gibson go but I thought John was thought of more highly than that and unless I imagined it, I think he signed a new deal not too long ago. Regardless, they'd probably be regulars at Sunderland whereas in Manchester...not so much. So I wouldn't mind seeing it go through tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Agreed though I think JOSH will might feel a little hard done by. He was a good servant but never quite got the crack he maybe deserved - or maybe it just wasn't on the cards. Hope he goes to Sunderland and dominates. If they both go and establish themselves it can only be good for Ireland too.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlaskaFox
Could this be the busiest summer for Irish players ever?
i think the emergence of rafael, fabio and chris smalling (who can also play full back) will have pushed josh down the pecking order. they are also after phil jones from blackburn, so it's not too surprising.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sullivinho
i would have thought they'd get rid of johnny evans before josh though.
Deleted the above post because I thought Wolves had also made a bid. I realise now that it was the Irish Times' mistake, not mine. They clearly can't tell the difference between Sunderland and Wolves.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B...576/Wolves.jpg
Harsh if united have accepted a bid for JOSH, should still be United's no 1 right back if you ask me, although fergie seems to prefer the brazilian lads.
I see from alot of comments below the SSN story that many of united fans would like to see JOSH stay.
12million for the 3 of them is a bargain
If he was at Sunderland, I can see Niall Quinn being more communicative wrt groin injuries and the like.
The IT have 2 default headlines,
insert name of Irish player in the blank space
Wolves launch bid for .....
Wolves not interested in ....
Maybe O'Shea fancies a new challenge? He's won everything already at club level and at 30 he needs guaranteed regular football in the coming years. It's good news for us anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
There hasn't been a bid for O'Shea; just for Gibson and Wes Brown, as far as I know. The report that O'Shea was part of a transfer was being played down by Sky Sports News earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard of Pace
With word spreading Gibson might be sold, some fans have come out of the woodwork it seems. Lots of folk on this forum hoping he is kept or at least thinking he has a lot of potential:
http://www.redcafe.net/f9/sunderland...-brown-332147/
Well, seems to be Gibson, Brown and O'Shea now, it's on SSN and the Guardian.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Yeah being reported all over know - think the confusion may come down to O'Shea's unwillingness to move to Sunderland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard of Pace
On Soccernet too now.
SundIreland is back? Maybe they will hire Brian Kerr.
JOSH will be a good person for Meyler to look up to when he finally plays for the senior team and gets criticized.
Brown can go, well past his best,( moscow 08), just a liability now. Gibson, give a loan inthe premiership and really see what he is about, fergie seems to rate him, well at least i taught it. OSHea, ya cant, his versatility and experience is priceless. no nonsense no fuss player. CLASS
Has agreed terms with Sunderland apprently.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11095_6988610,00.html
Too bad he couldn't make the breakthrough at Old Trafford, but he's still young and this will give us a better chance to see what he can do when given consistent playing time.
If he gets to play with Meyler on a consistent basis and they play well together that could be a very good thing for the Irish midfield as well.
If O'Shea goes as part of the deal do you reckon Bruce will use him as a centreback?
I hope so, as Bardsley seems to do ok at RB there. As long as O'Shea doesnt settle into a holding midfield role, thus keeping Gibson out of the side, I will be happy, even happier if O'Shea were to stay put.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
Surely Meyler/Cattermole will be the holding player alongside Gibson?
Yeah, true enough, I was more after the irony of it if Gibsons move to secure first team selection regularly were to be thwarted by a player who went there with him, and another Irishman at that.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
As good a move as Darron could expect, but deserved it at the same time.
Trap will surely take some credit :)
Only if he thinks Sunderland are better than Stoke!
If the move actually brings his game along some, 'visionary' will surely have to be added to Trap's list of credentials.
He has his Premier League winner's medal from the season just passed. He was lucky to play as many games as he did last season, but United are set for a massive spending spree this summer so I'd say he figures the game is up for him. He may have won his last medal, but he'll be a better player by the time he's done at Sunderland, no doubt about it.
I bet Liam Miller thought the same Serb!
Gibson has to hit the ground running at Sunderland.
Touché.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
yep, Gibson has to do well here. If he can't cut it at Sunderland I think he may go backwards. I think he is good enough, in fairness.
Seems whatever issues were holding up his move to Sunderland have now been sorted.
http://www.click-manchester.com/spor...ce-gibson.html
He might find it hard enough to get on the team IMO with Meyler, Cattermole, Gardner, Sessegnon & Malbranque also vying for the same position.
Personally don't think Meyler has any future at the club.
Based on what?
Wumming? Controversial one if not Murfinator. Bruce speaks well of him, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Murfinator
I'd hate to be discussing Darron's A-League credentials a few years down the line, that's for sure. What a disappointment Miller was. Swapping a bench in Manchester for one in Sunderland would be a disaster though, hopefully he get's the regular game he needs to push on. I wonder what his consecutive games stats look like thus far..Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
The club thought highly enough of him last year to secure his services until 2015. Injuries might be a concern but ability certainly ain't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Murfinator
Not likely to join to Sunderland according to the local Sunderland newspaper.
But the chances of the Black Cats landing a trio of Manchester United players are now remote, with Gibson pricing himself out of a move to the Stadium of Light.
Free agent Vaughan became the club’s ninth summer signing this morning after agreeing a three-year deal following talks at the Academy of Light yesterday.
It lessens the pressure on Sunderland to sign fellow midfielder Gibson, with the Black Cats baulking at the Republic of Ireland international’s wage demands which would see him more than double his Old Trafford salary.
Instead, the Black Cats have made a “take it or leave it” offer to Gibson which remains on the table.
But he will have to backtrack significantly if he is to join ex-United team-mates Wes Brown and John O’Shea on Wearside after the defensive duo completed their moves yesterday.
And with Stoke City reportedly entering the race for Gibson, the chances of the 23-year-old completing a £6million move are receding.
Lord only knows if thats true or not but it would seem ridiculous if it is. I suppose it depends on what the starting point is but I doubt that was going to be peanuts at Old Trafford and everyone can see this is an opportunity for first team football not a money making move. Perhaps he's pricing himself out because he just doesnt want to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
60k a week seems to be the unofficial figure. No links to back that up Im afraid
Gibson would need his head examined if he's asking for 60k a week. If so, maybe he is pricing himself out of a move since only a nutter would pay it.
Is he even on 30k at Old Trafford? Even at Man Utd, that's steep for a bit-part player.
He should go to a Russian team like McG did and see if it works for him.
6million? Is that saying brown and oshea were only 6mil altogether?Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
Darron has worked it all out
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