I reckon that is a completely fabricated story from the examiner. I spotted Kenny at a few of our games recently and they got a pic and attached the Kenny to Pats story to one.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Printable View
I reckon that is a completely fabricated story from the examiner. I spotted Kenny at a few of our games recently and they got a pic and attached the Kenny to Pats story to one.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Maybe we should future proof the posibility by saying SK is past his prime...
You'd have to wonder how long Kenny can turn down offers in LoI especially at the sort of money that has been mentioned. Unless he does get an attractive offer from outisde LoI he will have to cut his loses, St Pats timing makes it a possibility, Derry keeping their powder dry and fit the abroad requirement so still the most likely prospect now that Dundalk decided not to wait (cant see why we couldnt as it still looks like Garts and Burns doing the coaching rather than King), Dundalk's trump card was simply him living locally and has spoken about the importance of greater family time after a scare, but that boat has sailed.
Is SK the best fit? His strength is building sides, seeing the value in players others have overlook, maximising average players, can work with a range of budgets (Dundalk FC all over). Getting a misfiring inherited side firing like St Pats doesnt need a big pay day appointment - could actually be a situation more suited to Buckley!!?
Bucko is a club legend and his sides particularly the cup winning side in 2014 were a joy to watch. But I'd be inclined to say his time has passed somewhat and his spell with Cork last season would not inspire confidence even if it was a director of football role.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
I think the Derry job is the one SK would be most tempted by and might be waiting for,I think he still has a house in Inishowen and is probably the job with the biggest potential budget if he were to go in there….
Yeah I’d agree. Buckley was brilliant, especially from 2012 to 2015, but I think his time has passed. As for Stephen Kenny, as good as his record is in the league, I can’t help wondering if he has been somewhat damaged by his time with the national team. It was a rough time fo him, and he wouldn’t be human if it didn’t knock his confidence somewhat. Having said that, of course if he wants it we’d have to take him, but I don’t think he would come with any guarantees. Not sure what other candidates I’d favour.Quote:
Originally Posted by kksaints
I feel a bit sorry for Jon Daly. He did a good job last season, and I liked the way he conducted himself. Clearly something wasn’t right this year. Whether he could have turned it around, who knows.
Kelleher does not like it when we defeat Pats on a bank holiday
Daly must be disappointed if pats had gone to tallaght and won this Friday as waterford have shown is far from impossible he would be 3 points off Rovers who are currently second.
I blame the FAI schedulers :p. The mad thing is, I actually thought we started quite well yesterday, and the goal came against the run of play. Once we conceded though, the air seemed to go out of the balloon. You could almost see the players going “ oh, here we go again”Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Pats should go for Joey O'Brien. He's gonna make a great manager one day I feel,and he's as responsible for the recent upward curve in shels as duff.
Yeah it was one way traffic for the first 15 minutesQuote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
I dont think I have ever seen a manager so meek as SK when he ook the Dundalk job, he grew in to the job as his team did and he wasnt far off a league win in his 1st season, was a different man in front of the cameras there after. He is an emotional and passionate man, not naturally abrasive as can be needed under media pressure. I actually dont think he is at such a low point after the national job, he believes he achieved something and he arguably did devekop the bones of a squad, created some depth - right job wrong time type stuff, worldwide pandemic chucked in there for luck, he'll have been seriiously disappointed but seems to have marked it off as personal development, experience. He's backed himself looking for a higher profile job, time will tell whether others willl do the same. I do hope he takes on media training, even do some punditry for a bit as his greatest admirers, biggest critics and potential suiters abroad would have watched some of those post match interviews and press conferences and it was tough viewing at times. Its a risk for any LoI club appointing him tbh as his ambition would see him leave for a league club in England if someone wanted to take a punt and sure all he has to do is give a months notice and off he goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
I think Daly should have been given a bit more time, St Pats have deep pockets and dont absolutely need European qualification to panic change a manager. For sure the owner wants to win trophies but there is wriggle room that other clubs dont always have financially. The tone of the club statement may indicate a rift, no interim talk that ive seen yet so maybe a plan is in place.
You may well have just ruined O'Brien's future in management PC;)Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Keith long an outside shout for pats i wonder? is there still a lot up in the air down in waterford with regards owner + funding etc ?
The Kenny one is interesting. He is out of work since November and probably wanted a short break. However, so far he has not managed to get one of these ‘overseas’ roles that he seems to be so interested in taking. 6 months have passed and still nothing. I get the impression the offers haven’t exactly been flooding in. We saw with Kerr post Ireland. He got the Faroes job and then nothing…
Ticket Information for Cobh Ramblers FC versus Cork City – St. Colman’s Park Friday 10th May
https://cobhramblers.ie/ticket_infor...1PyvdKZYaZ2Tbl
Safe capacity was agreed at 3,000 with 300 allocated for away support this has now been increased to 600 after requests from Cork City.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
not a hope will cobh get 2.4k "home" fans in ffs. there will be plenty of city fans down in cobh tonight getting tickets.
Well we can rule O'Donnell out of the running for Pat's manager...if he was ever in the running
https://twitter.com/bfcdublin/status...7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Confirmed as assistant manager at Bohs
Classic LOI stuff that a few weeks ago one was a manager and the other an assistant, now they’re together in the opposite rolesQuote:
Originally Posted by Another Bohemia
LOI becoming the like the NFL with fired Head Coaches immediately taking up co-ordinator vacancies for a season or two before they are hoping to be cleansed to interview for head coaching positions once againQuote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
Did anyone have that on their LOI bingo card?
Rovers Belgrade penelty hero Stephen O Donnell leaves Dundalk rooted to the bottom of the league and moves on to Bohs......could he relegate both this year ??
Pragmatic and sensible by S'OD, if a bit odd in the turnaround. Bills need paying, a coaching career can take a step back to go forward. There are plenty who would stubbornly not look at an assistants post after being manager - and how often do we hear it in LoI that its the assistant thats the real brains behind success, think it may have started and been debunked with Pete Mahon!?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
Its all strangely quiet in Inchicore, has to stoke the expectations of a big appointment imminent given Kelleher's reputation.
I'd imagine he was given a severance package by Dundalk when he left so probably could have waited before taking on an assistant role but ultimately you're right bills need to be paid and we are already seeing Joey O'Brien being built up as the brains behind Duff's Shels team by some on here. I've always felt that the truth is somewhere in the middle with these things though. I think a manager has to be a good coach to have a plan on how they want to play, what players they want to bring in, how they should play in certain games and situations and then have the man management skills to deal with players who may get the chop. Great managers will know what their strengths in these areas are in bring in assistants & coaches to help in the other areas or bring in fresh ideas, different viewpoints etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
One of Clanceys last games in charge of PAts was a match in Tallaght where rumour had it Kelliher was swinging the axe if they lost, a late equalizer kept Clancey in situ, maybe Kelliher doesnt want to risk a PAts win on Friday if he has already made his mind up,
Still think it is to quick personally, as i said in an earlier post a win Friday would have them 3 points off us and we are second with a far bigger budget than Pats
I agree that it’s sensible from O’Donnell (and Bohs), it keeps him in footballing employment and if Reynolds doesn’t work out he’d probably be the one to step in and take the Bohs job (if someone else doesn’t offer him something that interests him before then).Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Not sure what this is supposed to mean. The manager was sacked yesterday and I’ve seen about 15 different articles from journalists linking Kenny, Rice, Long, Barraclough, Fleming, Elliott, Perth with the job. If you throw enough **** at the wall, some of it will stick and all that. But ‘strangely quiet’ I don’t get, the club are hardly going to release statements on the specific order of their preferred targets or somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
I was thinking of the standard who is taking training today and for a game in a couple of days. So maybe the lack of info from the club, rather than media speculation, is that there is no point in announcing the interim plan if the main man is about to step in imminently. It would stand to reason that Kelleher will have had things in mind, what sbgawa suggests makes sense, so possibly an already planned appointment is in the off. Kelleher would hardly have been rash and just pulled the trigger on a whim? It wouldnt be a surprise if Daly was pulled in by Kelleher, words were exchanged and a manager is gone or walks - still reckon the club statement says more in what wasnt said though the lack of some of the usual old platitudes was kind of refreshing.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Pats aren’t talking about who is taking training or the game on Friday because Pats fans f**king hate him !!!!!
Yeah Sean O'Connor wouldn’t be a popular figure to put it mildly. Varying reports have said it’s either him and or Stephen Elliott that are taking training at the moment and the game on FridayQuote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Would Jim Gannon be an option for an LoI club?
Out of work in England, but highly respected in the lower leagues (especially at Stockport). Obviously strong LoI connections too.
So there is a reason for the club being mute! Whats the issue with Sean O'Connor, Im not familiar with any reason for internal dislking of coaches at St Pats so any chance of a recap? For a moment i read Sean Connor and eyes lit up but alas no fun to be had there.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
I would think so, be good to have a local back in the league. When managing at Dundalk it was 1st Division mayhem and a thankless job. He'd have progressed a lot since then too. Wouldnt have much knowledge of the league but that shouldnt deter a meticulous preperation type like JG or a club!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
https://x.com/ocowzer/status/1787902233666900073?s=46Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Follow the quote tweets to that and you’ll get the idea…..
Yeah O’Connor would not be a popular figure with Pats fans, to put it mildly. He made some comments about the clubs lack of ambition after leaving for Rovers, and has was involved in a couple of incidents after that, including giving the finger to Pats supporters after a game in Tallaght, and a verbal altercation with some Pats supporters in the stand at Richmond, which I personally witnessed. Quite apart from any of that, I think if Daly was given the bullet, then O’Connor should have gone too. Now he will be in charge on Friday. I wouldn’t like to see him get the job. Ger O’Brien and Ian Bermingham are supposedly taking training along with him. Two club legends, but I’m not sure I’d like to see either of them appointed either. If it didn’t work out I’d hate to see them lost to the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
The LOI is like a soap opera,it's brilliant!:)
But when is the Bobby Ewing ‘It was all a dream’ in the shower moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Ehm....Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
Stephen Kenny pitching up at drogheda,saying he's delighted to finally get a chance to work in the louth region?
Roy Keane taking over management duties at Pat's ,claiming Dublin is the hotbed of Irish football?
Noel King getting a jo.... Hang on!!
You missed it, it was St Pats 2001-02 league title.Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
Must dig up that classic Pats official tweet around Nov 2018 'We fully support SK to be appointed Ireland Manager' (while just having won the double and still with Dundalk and under contract)
Almost unbelievable, or was that another Bobby Ewing flashback?
Git Forrester getting another pat's manager fired. And now windy is in charge for the Rovers game.:). He'll have to resist the urge to jump up in delight if/when Rovers score:)
That is funny. Can you imagine if he did jump up :)
https://m.independent.ie/sport/socce...979031398.html
Could all still be media talk but there tends to be no smoke without fire in LOI circles. It’s a case of wait and see until an announcement is made.