James McCarthy M free agent b.1990

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16/01/2010, 6:08 PM
tricky_colour

http://videos.sapo.pt/NAymc2ap5pMjquEe8ssu

Goal above, very slow to load though, good finish.
16/01/2010, 6:10 PM
paul_oshea

hahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahah hahahahahahahahah hahahahahahahahaha

i saw the he was sent off earlier and i thought colbert report would be on saying how crap he was because he got sent off. I then loggedback onto bbc and saw he scored and thought colbert report will be on saying how great a player he is blah blah blah.

Just logged on now and the the thread i saaw under the ireland forum was "james mcarthy" with colbert report as the last replied. haahahahahahahahahahahah :D
16/01/2010, 6:13 PM
tricky_colour

The penalty he won is on the video, made a nusiance of himself, got pulled down in the box.
A bit stupid as he would have never have got the ball.
16/01/2010, 6:33 PM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Looks like an incredible player, I can't understand the doubters on here.

Are you kidding me???
One quick search later

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

McCarthy was supposedly being looked at by all the top clubs in the world and ended up at Wigan. That is in itself a major disappointment.

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At this point, I would have expected him to be at least on the bench for Wigan, but he's not. No, I'm not prepared to allow him a full season for "adjustment".

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

As far as I'm concerned, this season will have been a total waste for McCarthy if a twenty minute sub appearance at Manchester United and an FA Cup third round goal against Hull's reserves are the highlights of his season.

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

this thread is about over-rated players, and McCarthy certainly fits into that category given the hype that has surrounded him for the past three years. He's done nothing, absolutely nothing at the top level. A goal against a Hull reserve team in an early round of a cup that nobody cares about anymore is not going to change my opinion of him, sorry.

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I'm cautious about getting too carried away when you look at over-hyped busts we've had in recent years such as Anthony Stokes and James McCarthy.

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McCarthy has never shown he is capable of anything at the top level. There's nothing wrong with that, plenty of players can get it done at the semi-professional level like the LOI and the MLS, but fail at the top level. McCarthy is one of those players I fear.
16/01/2010, 6:39 PM
shakermaker1982

That is hilarious Tets!!!
16/01/2010, 6:40 PM
Colbert Report

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Are you kidding me???
One quick search later

Buy a sense of humour mate! I was only trying to wind up SkStu, and it worked every time. When's the last time we had an eighteen/nineteen year old starting and scoring in the Premiership?
16/01/2010, 6:47 PM
Razors left peg

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Buy a sense of humour mate! I was only trying to wind up SkStu, and it worked every time. When's the last time we had an eighteen/nineteen year old starting and scoring in the Premiership?

in fairness I know u were havin a laugh with todays comment but my god some of those other comments are just beyond belief
16/01/2010, 6:48 PM
Crosby87

And Colbert hopefully some of your good juju for being dead wrong and overly analytical spreads to Stokes. Karma works is strange ways. I wouldnt mind if you threw some insults Terry Dixons way if you get the chance.
16/01/2010, 6:49 PM
carloz

He deserves serious credit. How many players would have thrown their toys out of the pram when they only got a couple of games in their first 5 montsh at their new club. He has knuckeled down and now he is seeing the benefit of that. I do think Martinez is a perfect manager for him at this stage in his career.
16/01/2010, 8:43 PM
carloz

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Originally Posted by yapster

McCarthy has a long way to go before anyone can consider him a good player. I think again that posters on here are getting too giddy again over a young prospect. lets see how he fairs out after 2 seasons playing regular football for his club. Remember o'Shea had a cinderella first season at United but was ****e for years after that.

Yes, being a regular in a side that won the champions league, lost in another champions league final and have won four leagues. God O'Shea really had some disgraceful seasons after his first one:rolleyes:. In each of those '****e' years he played at least 30 league games, with the exception of 04/05, where he started 23, and 07/08 where he started 28. Yes he had some very bad performances in those years but to say he was ****e for years is a bit of a joke. I don't know why I always tend to bite when i see your posts:mad:
16/01/2010, 8:43 PM
Crosby87

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Originally Posted by carloz

He deserves serious credit. How many players would have thrown their toys out of the pram when they only got a couple of games in their first 5 montsh at their new club.

Players who are 19? Zero. Not one.
16/01/2010, 8:49 PM
carloz

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Originally Posted by Crosby87

Players who are 19? Zero. Not one.

Most 19 year olds that have been sold for some 2 million, and after playing 95 games find themselves not getting a game for months would generally kick up a little bit of a fuss
16/01/2010, 9:28 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Buy a sense of humour mate! I was only trying to wind up SkStu, and it worked every time. When's the last time we had an eighteen/nineteen year old starting and scoring in the Premiership?

Of course, if that is the case, it raises the question of why you were going out of your way to wind me up in the first place. :confused:

Ah well, carry on. Good to know you ("secretly") agreed with me throughout it all.
16/01/2010, 10:32 PM
Irish_Praha

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Originally Posted by yapster

O'Shea is a mediocre player. I think he may be Fergies lovechild or something that Fergie has not off-loaded him years ago. Should have gone to the likes of Villa or Newcastle long ago if he had any sense but sadly was content to be a sub and take the easy money.

This one of the better posts that bohsRap should have used as an example of how you are ruining this forum. Lots of negative opinions about Irish players that generally don't match up with the real facts.
O'Shea has been injured for a large part of this season so it's unfair to use any stats but last season he played 54 games and the majority were as a starter. So he could harld be considered as a sub.
Also to say he should go to a team like Newcastle or Villa is a bit bizzare as both are in different divisions.

I know you are only a WUM and I shouldnt take the bait but i happend to have 10 spare minutes :D
16/01/2010, 10:57 PM
Carrigaline

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Originally Posted by yapster

McCarthy has a long way to go before anyone can consider him a good player. I think again that posters on here are getting too giddy again over a young prospect. lets see how he fairs out after 2 seasons playing regular football for his club. Remember o'Shea had a cinderella first season at United but was ****e for years after that.

Mostly agree with that.

There's no point in hyping McCarthy up to be this sort of wunderkid that we can build up, and then tear down when he has a poor game. Having said that (and I hope I don't jinx him), I think McCarthy is one of our better prospects and I think he'll at very least be part of the Irish set-up in years to come.
16/01/2010, 10:58 PM
Jicked

O'Shea hasn't merely been a sub for all these years. You horrendous bore.
17/01/2010, 12:48 AM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by Jicked

O'Shea hasn't merely been a sub for all these years. You horrendous bore.

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Originally Posted by yapster

yes he has son...

I don't know why I'm bothering to reply, but anyway
John O'Shea appearance stats for the last 4 seasons

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2009-2010 Home Away Total Starting Player: Starts: 6 7 13 Completed Games: 6 6 12 Substitutions: 0 1 1 Substitute Player: Started On Bench: 2 2 4 Introductions: 1 1 2 Unused Substitute 1 1 2 2008-2009 Home Away Total Starting Player: Starts: 20 22 42 Completed Games: 16 19 35 Substitutions: 4 3 7 Substitute Player: Started On Bench: 12 8 20 Introductions: 8 4 12 Unused Substitute: 4 4 8 2007-2008 Home Away Total Starting Player: Starts: 10 7 17 Completed Games: 8 5 13 Substitutions: 2 2 4 Substitute Player: Started On Bench: 20 16 36 Introductions: 8 11 19 Unused Substitute: 12 5 17 2006-2007 Home Away Total Starting Player: Starts: 13 13 26 Completed Games: 13 11 24 Substitutions: 0 2 2 Substitute Player: Started On Bench: 15 15 30 Introductions: 9 13 22 Unused Substitute: 6 2 8
17/01/2010, 2:10 AM
Colbert Report

Your stats are obviously way off. John O'Shea hasn't played since November 18 2009 and yet you expect me to believe that he's completed 35 games so far this season? Even if you add in all the pre-season and cup games Manchester United hadn't played anywhere near that by November 18.
17/01/2010, 4:05 AM
Charlie Darwin

The 2008-09 stats appear to be up there twice.
17/01/2010, 11:17 AM
Jicked

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Originally Posted by yapster

yes he has son...

son?

Although I shouldn't bother, here is a list of players who are in and out of Man Utd's first team, just as O'Shea is, on account of Ferguson's very succesfull squad rotation.

Neville
Brown
Anderson
Berbatov
Giggs
Fletcher
Scholes
Carrick
Owen
Nani
Fabio/Rafael
Evans
Fletcher
Park Ji Sung
Tevez (last season)
Valencia

In fact the only players you can guarantee on being in Ferguson's side on match day are Rooney, Van der Sar, Vidic, Ferdinand and Evra. Every other spot is in rotation for even the biggest games. Even some of Ferguson's favourites like Carrick and Fletcher are left out depending on the opposition. The guy started 42 games last year for Man Utd.

But yeah, he's nothing but a sub, he should have showed a little ambition and won the Championship this year with Newcastle like you suggested. You're one clued up football fan alright, I'm sure you have a barstool reserved for you in your local pub you're so knowledgeable and take your football supporting so seriously. You know, the one with no-one around it on account of how incredibly stupid your opinions are.

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