Apparently Reid had a great game for Forest today, chipping in with an assist to get Forest a vital win - http://www.forestforum.co.uk/showthr...=30898&page=15
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Apparently Reid had a great game for Forest today, chipping in with an assist to get Forest a vital win - http://www.forestforum.co.uk/showthr...=30898&page=15
Nice cross for the second goal. The first goal by Gareth McCleary was something though, he picked the ball up and ran 3/4 the length
of the pitch to score, which also says something about Coventry who are the worst away team in the division with just 3 draws
and 7 goals out of 16 away games, that's 3 points out of a possible 48!
Another assist to McCleary to put Forest 1-0 up, if it wasn't for Reid, Forest would probably have been relegated this season.
Having a great game today for Forest against Millwall. Perhaps Trap will call him in for the euros?
I honestly think I have a better shot of getting called up by Trap.
Sure why would he take you when he could have me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
AR set up 2 goals brilliantly there and took his goal very well.
Miles more creative than anything we have currently, but then he doesn't fit into Trap's 'modus operandi', shamefully.
He barely fits into his own shirt, shamefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5...sd1468465a.jpg
I saw him on Goals on Sunday. Two good set piece deliveries and a great shot.
The most notable thing for me however was how his legs filled a pair of baggy shorts.
Couldn't you find a better quote than that rag? And what's his 'size' got to do with anything? If he can play, he can play...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sullivinho
I didn't quote anything they said. Just added some context to the photo in case anyone thought I was using an action shot of the local pub league star to embellish things.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
I am however, scoffing at the notion that Trap's indifference to the ex-messiah's 'creativity' represents something shameful. Stephen McPhail and Owen Garvan can also play. A stunning 30 yard drive from either within the next couple of months and Trap's predictable starting XI in Poznan will look nothing short of diabolical!
Yeah, but that paper's a rag. Surprised you bothered with that link.
And whilst normally acknowledging your dry (& quick) humour, it is a serious point about a lack of creativity.
Don't mind people scoffing if were to sneak through and win the Euros this way, but won't so would personally rather sacrifice pragmatism for the AR's of this world.
McPhail however's, well past it and Garvan never was nor will be good enough.
Jesus, hadn't laid eyes on young Andrew for a bit. He has really let himself go. Does anyone know what his weakness is lads? Is he a beer merchant or is it the fried chicken and cake?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sullivinho
Reid's creativity, overstated as I believe it is and has been, has about as much merit for inclusion in the team as Ian Harte's set-piece ability. We could do with one of them and all. However anything either of those players might bring is offset and then some by what they don't, imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
I think Andy is just unfortunate in that he has a very short neck which has the effect of making him look more barrel chested than he really is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sullivinho
I'd be interested to see the effect if someone photo shopped that and stretched his neck little, I think he should look pretty athletic.
Would that explain the barrel chin as well?? :)
Yes the chin would disappear as the neck is stretched.
He's certainly a lump alright. Just imagine him (literally) bulldozing through that limp-wristed Spanish midfield...
Athletic ability is not everything, there are plenty of athletes who are rubbish at football,
Andy does not rally rely on athletic ability for his game, he could never play Shane Long's
role but them I doubt Shane could deliver as many quality crosses.
Horses for courses.
I don't know, I had a quick scan of Google Images for him there now and it would strongly suggest the matter extends well beyond his neck. Built, shall we say. Built.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Unfortunately for Andy, Ireland's game does rely disproportionately on athletic ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Somehow I doubt the lead-up to the Euros will be dominated by another media-led campaign to restore Reid to the side. It's hardly much of an achievement, but the football media have at least picked better flavours of the month in recent months.
The fact that he was in such good shape a few years back showed that it can be done, if the will is there. Now, I'm a big Andy Reid fan but if he couldn't be bothered his arse to get into the best possible shape, he really doesn't deserve anything other than what he is getting. Relying exclusively on his natural ability obviously gets him so far, but there's no doubt being fitter would help his game too, even with simple things like making a bit of space for himself over a couple of yards to send in a cross, have a shot or even make a simple pass. There is no way the guy should be playing for a team fighting for their lives in the Championship, given his ability. It is sinful really given the dietitians and personal trainers at his disposal.
I would go along with this, also from the Ireland viewpoint, we could really do with an Andy Reid at the top of his game in his prime and playing for a decent club in the level above the one he is in at present, but he is choosing not to and it is a choice, he could address it. It always surprises me when there are calls on here for him to be in our squads when he delivers an occasional decent 90 for Forest as he clearly isn't as bothered about it in return.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
As has been pointed out earlier in this thread, if it wasn't for Andy Reid then Forest would be down already. But that doesn't mean he should be near the Ireland squad unless we get the cruellest spate of injuries.
He's shamelessly overweight, it doesn't stop him being Forest's best creative outlet though. Reid's crossing is awesome and he threads through some nice passes to actually get our midfield moving and give the strikers something to look forward to. Pace isn't a massive problem as Forest have it on the other side with McCleary and in the Championship Reid's close control and intelligence is enough - at international level it would not be.
Reid's lack of fitness means he's a bit of a luxury to have around, but it would be no exaggeration to say he has created two-thirds of the goals Forest have scored in 2012. It should also be said that his attitude has been good, even when he's been a bit-part player, and is one of the few to give the impression of caring for the club's future.
His influence could become heavier (sorry) if Forest manager Steve Cotterill didn't insist upon defenders bypassing the midfield with such regularity, because the decent players Forest have (Reid, Garath McCleary, Adlene Guedioura) are clearly better suited to a passing game.
So to sum up - yes he's a useful player at Championship level and is showing leadership in a struggling side, but his international days are over.
Watched Andy play in Forest's 7-3 win against Leeds tonight. Reid himself got 4 assists and was sensational, his left peg controlled the game.
It still proves he can do it;sadly though no-one of influence cares any more, least of all Trap.
If only we were playing Leeds United and not Spain at the Euros...
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Bang on. There are about 10 better midfielders in the Premier League than Reid.
EDIT: Just seen the highlights now. Crazy stuff.
Shame none of them are Irish.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Oh..rry?
Pound for pound he is as good as any midfielder in the premiership.
pound for pound he's as good as several premiership midfielders at once.
I don't think you guys understand how the pound for pound thing works.
Yeah, it's the other way around. It applies to athletes the smaller they get.
People see weight as a negative thing but it is useful for stability and balance, also a slightly overweight player
knows he has to be mentally sharp when they loose weight they can loose that and instead rely on mindless athletic
ability. Running around like the proverbial blue arsed fly.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
To be fair a midfield of Coleman, A.Reid , Stephen (D)Ireland and McClean would probably do little worse than the four first-choice picks in Gdansk, come June...
Was O'Dea playing for Leeds?
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Originally Posted by elroy
Yep, a defensive midfield role supposedly.
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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Are you mad? You see nothing imbalanced about that midfield?
Whereas two plodders like Whelan and Andrews have about as much creativity as a wet fart...
What's yer point?
;)