Cork AUL 2008/09

Hey lads.
Finally back up and running.For some reason i was disconnected from the internet at work but after some convincing i got them to connect me back.
Anyway a lot has happened since i've been on this last.Our A team has seen their challenge for the league drift away.Terrible defeat to Coachford 2 weeks ago and had to settle for a point against Grattan last weekend.
I was at both games and have to admit the game against Coachford was probably the worst performance from any Park team i have seen in years.
The game last Saturday was a far better performance and should have taken all 3 points especially with the 2nd half performance.
The incident at the end was unbelievable.A dog ran on to the pitch and got in the way of Willie clearing the ball.The Grattan player said he'd give it back because Park had the ball.As Willie stood back expecting grattan to knock it back,their player crossed in the ball and as our backline were left to wonder what was going on,their striker knocked it end.To say the players and management were furious is an understatement.
The B team are having a better run of it at the moment.Didnt play a game for 9 weeks and then win 2 in a row-both on pens.
Played Springfield 2 weeks ago in St Micheals cup,we eventually won 8-7 on pens after a 2-2 draw.Mayfield at home in the Quaters.
After a 1-1 draw with Waterloo on Sunday we headed for spotters again,this time coming out 4-3 winners.

Lads, we were informed last week by the AUL that 2 of our players were suspended for our game last Sunday as they had accumulated 4 yellow cards. We had no choice but to leave the 2 out of the squad as per the rules. I have no problem with this..... However, even though we knew that each card also incurs a fine, what I didn't realise was that the 1st & 2nd yellows are charged at €5, the 3rd is €10 and the 4th is €20!!!!!! That means that we have had to pay €40 per player in fines..... I really do think that this is excessive to say the least, opinions???? Also, does anyone know how much it costs to rent an all weather pitch for an hour for training on average? Cheers lads

Lads a question for ye here!!.Does anyone know if a player has played with a league of ireland side in the season just gone,is he able to play in junior level competitions eg fai junior cup,munster junior cup etc?

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Originally Posted by BigFella 09

Lads a question for ye here!!.Does anyone know if a player has played with a league of ireland side in the season just gone,is he able to play in junior level competitions eg fai junior cup,munster junior cup etc?

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Yes. You need to go through the correct channels etc, but it is possible to do so.

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Originally Posted by BigFella 09

Lads a question for ye here!!.Does anyone know if a player has played with a league of ireland side in the season just gone,is he able to play in junior level competitions eg fai junior cup,munster junior cup etc?

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Not entirely sure. I know there was big debate two years ago in the Munster Junior Cup when Clonmel were deemed to have played an illegal player. I think part of the issue was that different Junior competitions had different rules (I think the player/Players in question were legal in the FAI but not in the MJC)... I'm not sure if it has been standardized or not. Maybe if you try reading through the truly riveting rules on the MFA site:
http://homepage.eircom.net/~munfa/

Tis very quiet lads,no posters on a Friday,football in Shannon an 3A in Limerick draws more attention than us,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

For the sake of it im goin all out for a magnificent 7 away wins.

Boscos v Kinsale,,,,,,,,,Kinsale
Blarney St v Grattan,,,,,,,,,Grattan
Knockavilla v Leeside,,,,,,,,,,Leeside
Park B v Mayfield,,,,,,,,,,Mayfield
Dillons v Village,,,,,,,,,,,Village
Hibs A v Springfield A ,,,,,,,,,,,Springfield A
Richmond B v Kinsale B,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Kinsale B

Doug, I think the AUL plan to look at the values of the fines, and rightly so in the current times, but I think the concept is here to stay. Some merits in it, but it is crucifying us financially. We have asked the players to pay it and they have no bother with that. However, it is hard to ask a guy for money for training, script, tickets etc when he may be out of work.

On your other point, an all weather pitch 60/70 euro.

On the Park/Grattan canine interference, Im somewhere in the middle. Tough to take if it happened to me, but, I dont think I can blame the player either!!

Any news on the dressing rooms, littleman?

Anyone heading to the AUL game next week? Whats the best way from here to Wexford? Do we know anything about the Dubs?

In what has panned out as a very strange season for Premier teams, this weekend may be the most important of the present season.
Due to the strange results last week in the National competitions, All Teams are now back fully concentrating on the local comps. Obviously the Aoh. is the big one and this weekend will tell a lot. In our own case all we were hoping for was a home draw at this stage. Delighted to get that , And then unfortunately we get a team like Park who know doubt will want to go a step furthur than last year. What you have here is Two Prem. teams going through the motions in the league ( really with nothing to play for) . So the opportunity to progress will either make or break your season. On this note here I must give a small rant on the way The Mossie Linnane is run this year :mad:. League basis :confused: What a joke. It will only suit the teams that are still involved in their respective leagues or the Aoh. If anyone out there reading this can do something about this , Please, Please let it be a knockout Comp. next year. :rolleyes:

dont ruin the silence small man calm before a storm and all that,

Boscos v Kinsale,,,,,,,,,Kinsale at a canter
Blarney St v Grattan,,,,,,,,,draw...just, for a poor grattan side against a second string blarney street team
Knockavilla v Leeside,,,,,,,,,,Leeside on the rebound
Park B v Mayfield,,,,,,,,,,mayfield
Dillons v Village,,,,,,,,,,,Village
Hibs A v Springfield A ,,,,,,,,,,,hibs
Richmond B v Kinsale B,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,richmond by 2.
premier league turning into a joke lads,a shame the top tier of junior football reflects two folded teams @ each team getting free points for other teams demise....all wrong.....

predictions

Boscos v Kinsale,,,,,,,,,Kinsale
Blarney St v Grattan,,,,,,,,,blarney street
Knockavilla v Leeside,,,,,,,,,,knockavilla
Park B v Mayfield,,,,,,,,,,mayfield
Dillons v Village,,,,,,,,,,,Village
Hibs A v Springfield A ,,,,,,,,,, Draw
Richmond B v Kinsale B,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Richmond

have to agree with you berba premier league is turning into a farce.. obviously we are all looking forward to the game against grattan tomorrow and will be going all out to win it of course but i think the way points were handed out for the teams that folded is all wrong. i cant understand why the aul just dont scrap all points awarded to all teams from the villa and ballyphehane games and play an extra round of league games.. but they know best i suppose..

Blarney St Ath 1-0 Grattan Utd

Good result for us on Saturday very tough game, coming into it we expected to have only 11{ stags work injuries ect} and no manager through working too but come Fiday we preformed a loaf and the fishes!!! 14 togged off manager there, with Colin Hourigan injured and Derek O C at a stag.

We stated 4-5-1 thinkin the Gratts would be 3-5-2, they went 4-4-2 thinkin we would!!! Grattan had the 1st 20 mins with the ball going up to the forward and comin straight back down, no fault of Stevie Walsh who was magnificent but 1 on 4 dont match! Harry had a header after 5 mins and Shinky from a cornior got a great leap but saved, been honest grattan didnt have any thing after that. 0-0 at half time wind behind us still not really have started and playin in to the scoring goal{ye know ye all have 1} we really felt we could win this. goal came from a great run down the right from Eoin Cremin who put in a low cross Jp came on to in flicked it up and it was a rocket after that. so real chances after that, ref blew for a few offsides for us that were dissputable but it remained 1-0 to the ended. on a side note Babbsty put Figo in his pocket the same player done the same to Varian and from what we hear International Cap could come soon. Figo was at it again drop ball tp be played back but just played on with Eoin down. didnt go down to well i can say, think sportsmanship could be gone out the window at the gratts 2 weeks on the bounce now??????????????????

Best of luck to Minty and all the gang in the OT Cup Final next saturday :ball:

We have superb ability in our forwards and attacking midfielders but do we have the ability to keep the Dublin AUL from scoring? :confused:

Cork AUL have to be going in as big underdogs... but stranger things have happened... Fingers crossed!!! :rolleyes:

[quote=Doug89;1113090]Lads, we were informed last week by the AUL that 2 of our players were suspended for our game last Sunday as they had accumulated 4 yellow cards. We had no choice but to leave the 2 out of the squad as per the rules. I have no problem with this..... However, even though we knew that each card also incurs a fine, what I didn't realise was that the 1st & 2nd yellows are charged at €5, the 3rd is €10 and the 4th is €20!!!!!! That means that we have had to pay €40 per player in fines.....


i do think that referees are way too quick to hand out yellows and i may be wrong here, dont know the cost of a fella picking up cards. the way things are at the moment i cant see too many people affording to pay that especially with other costs involved, ie; script, training, insurance etc. does anyone know if the league has consulted the officials?? it would i imagine make the ref be a bit more wise to dish the cards out so flipantly. on another note the overall standard of refs is poor, i know theres a shortage but my god they are gettin well paid and the least they can do is be fair to both teams.......

I watched a dvd the other night while on a mini holiday down in Redbarn .It was called Vantage Point,the idea of the show was that it took different views of the same action an gave an all round veiw or verison of what actually went on.Good show an a good idea.You may well think im either losin me mind or i should be on the DVD review thread but im ok,just attempting to help prove my point further on.

Cass i agree with the majority of your points you gave,again a decent honest review of the game for the most part.Grattan turned up for the game but never turned up during the game if those reading this follow me.We have been turning up to games all season an teams expecting one thing of us have for the most part bar the odd game got something very different.

I watched the game Saturday too an in the first half I thought we shaded it an should have gone in maybe 1 or 2 up if we had of taken our chances,but we didnt an as I watched the game with a person whos opinion on football I regard very highly we both came to the opinion that with all the chances we missed it looks more likely that Blarney St would nick one,an they did.Fair dues.No problem with that.Blarney St for me defended very well an attacked on the break again very well,we had the majority of possesion throught the game but more often than not wasted it.You cold say the pitch had a part to play in it but at times we tried to hit the first time pass an stretch them rather then takin a 2nd touch to kill the ball an then puttin a quality ball in or through.Our own fault in the end.

Cass again you made the point that Babbs had (who I rate as the best full back in the Aul)had Figo(who I rate as the best player in the Aul) in his pocket.Babbs an indeed you an everyone else at the game could see Figo wasnt fit to play.Your post started out well but finsihed up with a dig at my club with regards to unsporting behaviour,you saw the 2 incidents at both games an I for one admire a footballin brain/point of view,but your comments about the incidients are petty an cheap .A good post is one that gives you something to think about or agree/disagree with or even stops you an make's you think ya he has a point there.

You were on goal an watched Alan O'Brien an Cremmin put in a fair 50/50 tackle,Cremmin was'nt injured,he got cramp an it happened basically on the line at half way.The ref told your manager he wasnt goin to stop the game for cramp,especially when the player was in an area of the pitch when he wasnt goin to interfear with play.Your manager wanted to win the game an got a bit heated but I can understand that,but sayin it was unsportin of us to carry on is way off.We had the ball in your last 3rd when Todlum went down injured off the ball an the ref stopped play,the ref droped it an Blarney st drove it back down to our corner flag,we lost the imputus goin forward because we did the decent thing an got no thanks for it but thems the joys an we got on with the game.

Before you throw the Park thing at me in return you again were at the game,it wasnt a set play on our behalf with the dog attending special training sessions mid week,it was a freak one off laughable incidient.In all fairness to blame a dog for loosin or drawin a game,the dog went off chasin rabbits again an the Park lads were what ? waiting for us to say ya we deliberatly put him on to slow down play an prevent ourselves from scorin.Figo just reacted qiuckest to the drop ball,nothin dirty or unsportin.The Park lad did ask Figo a question,"are you goin to kick it back",Figo said why should he an that was the end of it.The Park player should have got his mind back on the game an got on with it an as I reminded you Cass you were at the game an saw it happen in front of you,yet you put a different twist on it.



Despite what Berba would describe as a poor Grattan side against a 2nd string Blarney St side I take your comment on board but forgive me if I dont agree with you.It wasnt a poor Grattan side far from it,it was a good Grattan side who just didnt play well.The majority of players on show for us Saturday were the same players who won the league for the past 2 seasons,they have set the standards for those who wish to take their crown,an they are only too aware that it has been a frustrating season this year.

was lookin at the star yesterday and they were doin a preview of the oscar traynor game. I was just wonderin where the lad from grattan was was pa connors i think his name is. was he not on the irish junior side last season. Sorry if this was discussed before but i'm from south tipp and i was kinda surprised with the lack of grattan players over all in the team.

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was lookin at the star yesterday and they were doin a preview of the oscar traynor game. I was just wonderin where the lad from grattan was was pa connors i think his name is. was he not on the irish junior side last season..

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Pa is now playing for College Corinthians in the MSL

We were 1 up against WGHill in the quarters of the Michaels Cup with 20 minutes to go in a sticky kinda messy game. The final result was a 3-1 defeat for us. Three goals that we are disapointed to concede. Worse than walking away from a game like that is the Manure fans telling you that the Pool are 2 down with 5 mins to go. The 3 o clock kick offs mean there isnt a second half for us to follow any more!

I didnt realise Pa Connors was with Corinthians - three talented brothers in that clan. Dave came back from OZ and scored the winner for us in Last years City Challenge Cup Final and went back to Oz. A genius of a player. Steven destroyed us another day with Northvilla.

Will Dublin be heavy favourites for Saturday? How long is the drive to Ferrycarrig?

Doug, looked at your division league table - March and 7 of the 10 teams has a genuine shout for promotion. Brilliant

having read both casilles and littlemans posts on last sat game i suddenly remembered why i enjoy this game so much.as you touched on with your dvd review littleman it is amazing how people can see things differently and the different opinions one can arrive at out of a fairly poor game. for what its worth here is mine.....
firstly i am not gonna comment on what happened down in park with grattan cause altough i was there i was too far from that particular incident to hear the exchange between the players involved. either way i will say that if i was the park manager i would have been livid with my player for not telling grattan that he woukd give the ball back and relieve the pressure from his team. (which is exactly what we done on sat and i make no aplologies for this) it is an accepted part of the game nowadays and something every team does. anyway the game was not stopped for an injury so i dont see why the gratten player involved should give the ball back. now i also work with a park utd person who said that the player did say he would give it back to them and didnt. this is different so again we have conflicting reports from both sides of the story.
on saturdays game the only difference on the day is we scored and grattan did not. grattan did shade the first half and came close through harry with a header which the keeper saved at point blank range and through brian and shinky with headers aff corners. what nobody is mentioning is that there was a strong breeze and i genuinely felt if we could get in at half time level we had a great chance. as it turned out we probably shaded the second half and managed to get the all important goal,which was superbly taken by john paul thompson. after that grattan did push hard but were forced to go long ball mostly and i felt we dealt very well with this.
littleman it is not for me to comment on grattans plight but im sure you will agree with me on this but i think a big difference for ye this year is the quality on the bench. when i watched ye before down through the past two years the line was always very strong and full of very good players. for me i dont think it is as strong now.you are right the players on the field are more or less the same players which have won the league the last two seasons

as for babsy marking figo out of the game i must say i only heard now that figo was not fit. that is fair enough but i still wont take from babsy who was outstanding.again when you say i got frustrated on sat with the ref for not stopping the game you would be spot on but this was simply the straw that broke the camels back. i was really annoyed because of all the offsides that he called against my team previous to this. what really got to me was the position he was in which was about 20-30 yards behind the play when he blew his whistle every single time we broke. now having spoke to someone who i regard as one of the better refs who was watching the game on the line who told me that at least 3 times the player was on side. what ever happened to giving the attacking team the advantage. so my rant had nothing to do with ye not stopping the play cause cremin was down with cramp but more over with his general performance. for me unless a player is seriously injured the game should not be stopped and even then only if the ref stops it. having to put the ball out to allow the ref to allow first aid on is a joke and only leads to arguemens.h
have to give a special mention to danny quinlan who came off the bench on sat simply to compete with the grattan back line who were dominating every thing in the air in their own box. he totally changed things and its a good reward for him having trained very hard over last few weeks. won some great headers when defending in our box too

anway have to say im really looking forward to the game on sat and cant wait to travel up and support the lads. should be an intersting team selection for minty with anthony buckley back but was told tonight that figo is no longer involved.anyone shed any light as to why this is. littleman? i really feel he will be a big loss.
i cant believe that the aul in their wisdom have decided not to travel up on the fri and stay overnight. in big games like this the small things make a big difference and i think they have failed the lads on this. maybe im wrong but it sounds like penny pinching to me which is all wrong.for me the lads should be brought up on fri night,have a goods night sleep and be able to have a lie in and relax on sat morning. instead they are meetting at nine in the morning and then travelling up presumably by bus.after getting offf the bus they then have to go out and play one of the biggest games off the season."fail to prepare,prepare to fail" springs to mind. i hope im wrong of course and that it wont affect the players but we will wait and see.
anyway best wishes to all involved and i hope they do it. are there many people making there way upon sat. do we know much about the dubs