Or Quigley actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
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Or Quigley actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
This is what I love about the LOI, the "fans" involved who take their hands out of their pockets long enough to manipulate something different in order to relish the demise of other clubs. It must be wonderful to know your own club is so secure and correct in its dealings. Guinney, look at our own club and see how it's developed, you might find it rather enlightening.
Yay! Let's hope everyone wins!!!!!
It's all about the taking part you guys..
The fact is most Clubs in the League are built on a house of Sand. One Large bill or angry/ litigious Creditor away from been in serious trouble. There are not many Clubs left who have not experienced some major financial difficulty over the last Ten Years. People blaming the FAI for everything, does not IMO address the core issues. They cannot introduce lie detector tests into the licensing process nor babysit grown up People on how to run their Club 24/7.
Posters have valiantly tried to address those core issues on here for many a Year but here we are again -and we all know we are we'll be here again with someone else before Season close.
Unless Clubs can cover wages out of gate receipts only and Irish People stop spending their money on Teams from foreign Shores its hard to see things changing.
Don't think so ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Sure no-one saw the Pats Francis merger coming e.g. ...
Btw I just hope for Pats sake Kellegher isnt tempted to merge them with Fingal and move them to Lusk, he could claim to be fullfulling his academy agenda by backing Bucko and it would leave him a clear run at redeveloping Richmond and the sites nearby he owns :laugh:
The FAI have been holding them up as the model for new community clubs/franchises entering the league into the future while the dog on the street knew Fingal were more interested in binge spending rather than laying proper roots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Kilkenny City, Kildare County, Derry City, Cork City - 4 clubs already gone bust under the FAI's 'watch'. Fingal, Bohs and Drogheda all teetering on the brink 4 years after they took over the running the league.
Having a 5th or 6th or 7th club going pop under their watch after having 4 years to sort the league ****es over any notions of credibility the FAI are desperate to portray. If the FAI were doing their job the disasters at Cork, Drogheda, Bohs and Fingal would never have been allowed to develop. They are a complete joke.
Except it wouldn't actually be Shels would it and most current Shels fans wouldn't support this new ******* club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mario
Your post is possibly the most ridiculous i've ever read on here.
The bottom line is that a team that has a tiny support like Fingal has is going to be in trouble. Clubs that have large support have been saved by their fans ( bohs,Shamrock Rovers,Cork City, Drogheda) . Fans make a club , Dublin City, Kilkenny City , Kildare County and Fingal all had one thing in common - little or no support .
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Originally Posted by Cuyahoga
As pointed out by Roy Dooney - the ill-fated League Commissioner a few years back...
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The League of Ireland’s first and last Commissioner, Roy Dooney, sums up the attitude of many club owners: “Clubs are constantly looking for a quick and easy solution. They are constantly looking for something that will deliver them a crowd of 10,000 per match. It is all short term. There is no doubt these fellas love their clubs and they love what they are doing – they wouldn’t do it otherwise. Take Ronan Seery in Dublin City – Ronan is a nice fella but that club was like some sort of extension of a PlayStation game. You are the manager of a scabby little club a mile from Tolka Park and Dalymount Park, your biggest neighbours. You have a crappy little stadium and okay, you have the great idea to call yourselves the Vikings and play in the Dublin county colours, but you just go nowhere... and yet the fellas, they love it. Another chairman I heard had more or less frittered away all his money into the club. He sold his wife’s car and took a second mortgage on his home just to pay a player’s wages. It is just mad.”
Yeah my own club Dundalk had its financial problems a while back (like most other LOI club) but we survived and now with proper management and sustainable development we are doing okay, but we didn't gamble completely on the hope (miracle might be a better word) that some financial backer/sponsor would pop up and invest in us again, which is crazy in this economy. Dundalk is one of the oldest clubs in the league, its development to this day is over a hundred years, rather than a quick 3-4 year period of boom to bust. Fingals business plan was doomed to fail, when they have money they should putting it into development of the club instead of throwing it away on players wages. I take no pleasure in Fingals plight, but its no ones else’s fault except those who run the club. As a LOI fan they potentially represent another black mark on the league and this is something the league as a whole doesn’t need.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudulika
rubbish, both big and small fanbased clubs have gone to the wall and both big and small clubs continue to prosper in the league its down to the idiots running these clubs. I accept however its harder for a small club to come back from overburdening debtsQuote:
Originally Posted by Cuyahoga
Apparently Fingal are about to remove the previous press release as it was overly negative
New one paints a slightly more optimistic picture
The FAI spin doctors have been to work.Quote:
New one paints a slightly more optimistic picture
Smoke and mirrors time now. An optimistic picture isn't going to pay the players. What's wrong with them just coming clean and saying that they are in deep doo doo and need a minor miracle to be able to suvive in their present guise???
They can release as many statements as they like but i'm not believing a word of any of them because The Lep is the only man who truely knows whats going on. Anyone know where he is?
You're talking rubbish, no big club with support has gone out of existence, thats my point , they have been saved by the fact that they have a large loyal fanbase .Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
So if the new club was called say Sporting Shelbourne for one year and then back to Shels after that, played this season in Tolka, in the Shels colours, in the premier division with Matthews as mgr and Bucko as director of football concentrating on the plans for Lusk with some of the Fingal players added to the current Shels squad?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie
I think alot of Shels fans could swallow that rather than another few years in the first ...
Cork City and Derry City went out of existence a year ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuyahoga