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Twitter seems to be great craic for the likes of the transfer window or during a game for the likes of BBC Live, but for journo's to be doing this type of thing seems to be a bit, well, amateurish I think.
Re Shay's comments, I wonder who was the last Ireland manager to have real control over the squad.
Nothing much in Shay Given's comments.
Big storm in a teacup.
The question is....will he or will he not be named to the squad for March 26th.
If McCarthy gets chopped down by a late tackle in a near empty DW Stadium, does anybody in Trap's backroom staff hear him fall?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
Re: Given and Trap's comments. They (Trap in particular) get asked the same questions over and over by the same journalists. McCarthy is the journalists' latest myopic obsession now that both Reid and Ireland have fallen victim to their own importance and they're going to fish for the answer they want every time. In Given's case, he probably knows as little about McCarthy as anyone else and was possibly influenced by a leading question.
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Notwithstanding what I just said about journalists... Daniel McDonnell on Twitter: "Response from McCarthy camp in tomorrow's Indo. The headline 'Staying Green' should give an idea where his international future lies."
http://twitter.com/#!/McDonnellDan/s...64029431914496
Notwithstanding indeed - McDonnell appears to have spent the last two hours yelling 'calm down!' about a situation he helped stir up himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
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Originally Posted by osarusan
I think things have changed considerably since Given started his career, the money the player get has increased considerably and they have agents who
get their cut who will influence the players. Slightly different for Given being a goal keeper who and expect a longer and more injury free career.
I can see how the game can be seen as meaningless friendly too.
McCarthy does not want to be playing too many game just after an injury, but it is still disappointing and makes me feel a little concerned
that something may not be right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSoHs1h0UFkQuote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Reminds me a little of the second coming of Stephen Ireland :laugh:
Speaking of which when is he coming back? We need him and his pink car to train McCarthy on the proper ways to be in the squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
The headlines and bylines that referred to Shay's comments sparked controversy.
I have read Shay's comments and can't find anything remotely controversial in them. Normal stuff from Ireland's finest player.
panic + fear + controversial headline + mind reading Trap's thoughts = Irish fan's opinion
Hope McDonnell's piece tomorrow has something concrete ie. actual quotes from McCarthy or Wigan and not a Roy Curtis-esque 'close sources' bullsh!t 'exclusive'.
Well his career seems to be on a downward spiral.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
It remains to be seen if he can hold down a place in the Newcastle squad never mind the Irish one, if he was not good enough for Villa
it is doubtful if he will be good enough for Newcastle.
Roy Curtis doesn't go for exclusives to be fair. He usually just chooses somebody to be angry at and then spends 40 paragraphs tying them in with a metaphor-soaked narrative on the downfall of the Celtic Tiger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooby Doo
What I wish I knew about Trap is how annoyed he is with McCarthy. If he meant what he said in the quotes it seems he is taking it in stride. Wants the boy to get healthy. But some doubt is creeping in.
I know one thing, the next time he is picked...he has to blody well show up. The situation is getting annoyingly precarious. Its not just if James wants to be here that is worrisome it's that management will still WANT him here as well.
Also over shadowing the debut of Clark, Coleman and hopefully Wilson. Which is what we should rightly be discussing.
Today's (Tuesday) Herald will feature an interview with Ireland's missus (why, I don't know) who says she'd love to see him play for Ireland again.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Probably can't wait to see the back of him.
She probably has an eye on a bit of 'me' time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard of Pace
the senile old clown hasnt spoke to the guy since last summer and hasnt even got his numberr
"I haven't a number," he said, "but in the summer when we asked him if he was tired, injured and I spoke with Martinez because it's better to speak with the manager first. The players have limited responsibilities because there are also clubs who decide whether you can go."
sack this clown soon :mad:
Reason For Dismissal: Incomplete Phone Book.
Does anyone know what the Scottish version of foot.ie / ybig is? and if that is alive with rumour of him defecting to play for them?
I have had a quick google but nothing really current on the top searches strangely.
if mccarthy switches alleigence trapattoni's spell in charge will go down with staunton as being an absolutely useless incompetant ****
Trap will be told to clean out his office, as he fills up his box with mementoes and stuff,
a piece of paper falls to the floor.
"Hey! there's James' missing phone number and a message! My God, he really wanted to play for us!"
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Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
http://taboard.com/forum/index.php?s...ic=125814&st=0
Nothing on there about it really, a passing mention at best, amongst a fair bit of bitterness and a strong impression that there wouldnt be much of a welcome for him in any event, but surely if it were about to happen, that board would be full of discussion about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
That and a huge sense of loss from the more knowledgeable among them.
I think its a non runner. I hope it is. Surely the one so called, world renowned manager we have had isnt about to drop a bollock on this scale.
the TA board is an incredibly negative and bitter place.
.....says the person who can't spell incompetent.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishultra
No kidding! I found this about halfway in:Quote:
Originally Posted by boovidge
"Here's hoping he gets both his cruciates snapped real good."
Lets twin with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by boovidge
Dunphy is having a field day with it. He's using the Indo media line - "he's going to play for Scotland now because Trap is useless" line.
Spot on above, re-Given being influenced by a leading question. He probably knows little and was asked what he thought of McCarthy pulling out due to tiredness.
Better than Levein and Scotland and the SFA? That's the real comfort here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudulika
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...t-2529355.html
No direct quotes from McCarthy in the piece.
My own personal view on it is that he did come off with an injury towards the end of the game so if Wigan has said that was the reason there would have been no issue.But using the line that he was tired for a 2nd time was amatuerish and disrepectful. I would have liked to see the FAI stand firm and insist that he travelled over to be assessed by the FAI physios as they were well within their rights to do. That way it would have set a marker down to stop clubs messing us around in future
James McCarthy is one of the Premier League’s hottest properties, he wants to play for Ireland, so why doesn’t Giovanni Trapattoni have his number?
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...h-2529479.html
More speculative nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
A lot of knickers in a twist on this one - A nothing story again, thankfully some of the more level headed sane posters keeping this in check.
Perhaps, as has been mentioned earlier, a simple meet up with the squad to watch the match from the stands (no inspectiond from the FAI physios necessary) would have been the only gesture required to appease those more 'worried' fans.
McCarthy is going nowhere.......
I can completely understand why Wigan would want to protect their best player from playing in a relatively meaningless tournament after he has been out for 3 months with an injury. I am also reasonably confident that James McCarthy really wants to play for Ireland. Nobody would put themselves through the abuse that he (and Aiden McGeady) had to endure at every Scottish away ground when playing for Hamilton after he chose Ireland over Scotland. Would you want to suddenly turn round and start playing for a country like Scotland after receiving such abuse as a 18 year old boy? I wouldn't. I also wouldn't like to hear the regular anti-Irish abuse that is found on the Tartan Army messageboard, and is commonplace throughout large parts of Scotland. Many Scottish fans are fond of telling people of Irish descent that the famine's over, why don't you go home, but they don't like it when McGeady and McCarthy followed their advice.
Regardless of this, Trap should have capped McCarthy in either the Montenegro or Andorra home games to tie him to us for forever, and put an end to this debate. Playing the likes of Martin Rowlands or Paul Green in front of the best Irish midfielder since Roy Keane is a disgraceful decision
..especially if Trap doesn't have his number ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
I agree though. Paper talk.
Couldn't agree more Fitzy! That kind of stuff is going to stay with you forever and hopefully drive him onto be a world class player. Trap is not helping the situation (as usual) and questioning the players commitment can only alienate him further from the squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitzy
When Robbie pulled out, I wondered where the story would be.
Once the papers came out with this whopper of a wild story about 2 of our players roaring drunk in Leeson st, dancing on top of a ban garda's car.
;)