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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
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Was watching United V Liverpool last night from 93/94 season and was surprised at how many through balls and long passes Keane picked out. Forgot how he could play a few different roles at a young age. Anyway, I think I'd like to see Gibson with United for another year and see if Ferguson gradually places more and more trust in him. If by next season he's still in the same position then I think it would be time to move onQuote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
Looks fake. Why would he change his handle?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Lay off the abuse this time, Tets and East Terracer.
Perhaps that plays some part in some of the abuse the lad gets. However, in my opinion the more educated among us view him as too inhibited for the position that he plays in. Doesn't show for the ball half as much as he needs to and should get away from United to progress his game. Playing with players of their quality is more likely to cover up his deficiencies rather than move him along. His own response to previous suggestions of this type would suggest to me that he's not ready to accept that these need to be worked on.
I wouldn't go along with that. Playing at a higher level exposes exactly the limitations you've mentioned. It's much harder to play for a side that are expected to win every game, and win well, than a side with more expectations.
not in the squad at all tonight, neither is O'Shea
carricks been immense and i see united are in for at least one midfielder this year id say even if just acholes gone that's it for him.
Sounds like Gibson and Rooney have patched things up. They were on the same team in Socom today, triumphing over Rio Ferdinand and the Da Silva twins.
Gibson starts for United in their match against Schalke this evening.
as does John O'Shea at Left Back
Gibson looking eager to win and get on the ball. Only three minutes gone but hopefully a good sign.
Looked in a lot of pain after winning a tackle and getting a kick to his lower right side in the process. On his feet again now and back on the field so hopefully OK to continue. Maybe winded or something; not sure.
For a short while I feared for Darron's nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Playing some lovely passes, one of them an assist. Good urgency in his play too.
Just had to be his night after his nuts escaped the chop.
He's been excellent in the first half
Has been a great first-half display from Gibson. Delighted for him. Maybe the Twitter experience was exactly what he needed to spur him on and off his laurels. He played a lovely pass through to Valencia for the first goal, after having won a tackle and embarking on a very positive attacking run with intent a few minutes earlier. The goal he scored himself had an element of luck to it with Neuer making a shambles trying to handle what was, all things considered, a stinging effort on target. Fantastic to see him central to the action.
Darron doesn't find the ball, the ball finds him.
Bill reckons Schalke have to score 4 to go through.
He wouldn't be wrong. ;)
Scratch that. Turning into an absolute rout now. A second goal for Anderson to make it 4-1 on the night.
And it looks like Gibson's going to get the full ninety minutes for once.
Some comments relating to Gibson from the BBC's live match update service:
2037: Fair to say Darron Gibson has been very impressive in Manchester United's midfield so far tonight, while Schalke keeper Manuel Neuer is having a bit of a shocker (a Schalker?). Both of which seemed very unlikely before kick-off.
NathanJBright on Twitter: "Gibson is the new Iniesta... Neuer the new Massimo Taibi."
2021: Almost another goal to tell you about, with Antonio Valencia's shot being cleared off the line by Benedikt Howdes. I'll have to settle for a yellow card though, which is awarded to Darron Gibson for a reckless lunge on Sergio Escudero.
Man Utd goal: Darron Gibson has been getting a lot of flak for his shooting from United fans, but it is Schalke keeper Manuel Neuer at fault here, letting Gibson's low strike slip through his hands after a neat build-up down the right by the home side.
niallmc82 on Twitter: "I have major doubts about Gibson but that pass was world class."
1_1andrew1_1 on Twitter: "And with a pass Iniesta would be proud of, Gibson has answered some of his critics."
Man Utd goal: Schalke give the ball away cheaply at the back and United punish them ruthlessly, with Darron Gibson picking out Antonio Valencia, who tucks away his shot past Manuel Neuer. Another step down the road to Wembley for Sir Alex's men - it is a long way back from here for Schalke.
2009: Darron Gibson bursts forward (serves me right for taking the mick) but United's attack breaks down on the edge of the Schalke area. The Germans clear for a corner, from which Chris Smalling heads over from Nani's delivery.
2008: The TV cameras have just shown Barcelona boss Pep Guardiola in the stands at Old Trafford... not sure he is going to pick up too many clues about United from watching this team in action. Maybe he is just sizing up a bid for Darron Gibson after reading all about him on Twitter?
1959: Gibson is OK to continue and, as he jogs back on to the pitch, United launch their best attack so far. Dimitar Berbatov perseveres down the left and rides a couple of challenges as he makes his way into the area before firing in a dangerous low cross, which Manuel Neuer does well to deal with.
1957: This looks like big trouble for Darron Gibson, who has picked up a rib injury after sliding in on Jefferson Farfan. He is up on his feet, so let's see if he can carry on.
1948: ...Chris Smalling cannot quite get on the end of it, and Schalke break, until Darron Gibson tracks back to clear the danger. The German fans are making a lot of noise at the moment.
Has been a very one-sided affair, and bar the booking, Gibson can only be commended for his performance tonight.
Humourously, just as I was writing, Gibson, in the 88th minute of play, collected the ball close to the left corner and was being willed on to "Shoot!" by a lone voice in the crowd caught on the microphone. He disappoints, however, and passes it back towards the edge of the box.
That performance, along with his game against Crawley, is proof of what Gibson is capable of. I'd imagine that's what Trapattoni and Ferguson see from him in training as well, it's just when he makes the step up to the competitive level of the Premier League, he can often be found wanting.
I suppose the cynical view was that his performance against Crawley had as much to do with the quality of the opposition more than anything, but the semi-final stage of the Champions League is nothing to be scoffed at, even if United were 2-0 up on aggregate going into the game.
True, but if he couldn't perform against a team the quality of Crawley, then we could justifiably say there's nothing there to work with. With those two performances we can see why Trapattoni and Ferguson have persisted with him. He is talented, but isn't yet able to make the best use of that talentQuote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Didnt seeing the game tonight owing to upcoming exams but delighted to see him having a great game. This game will hopefully give the lad a much needed confidence boost. Let's hope he can produce on a more consistent basis.
Very positive reaction to his performance on the United fan's forum:
http://www.redcafe.net/f6/darron-gib.../index128.html
Good stuff from Gibson. If Utd wrap up the title at the weekend he could start another couple at the end of the season. Be a shame if his next game was against Macedonia in a month.
Still people are giving Gibson faint praise. Good on him for a wonderful goal and insightful pass for the first goal. If this had been Coleman or McCarthy people would be wetting themselves over their performance.
I gauge the response to be overwhelmingly positive. Virtually every post on that United fan site praises the performance. I haven't seen one report or comment saying he did anything wrong. When I said he disappointed for not shooting from near the left corner, it was strictly tongue-in-cheek.Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
My post is in relation to an exchange that occured on here last week about the fact that I think Gibson is often unfairly treated because of the club he plays for and the fact that every Utd. player lives in Keane's shadow. The response to his fantastic performance is far as I can see on here, guarded and reserved.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I think being guarded and reserved is fair enough. We all know he's got ability, but it'll be for naught if he doesn't produce consistently. However everyone does appear to recognise he was excellent last night and well done to him - I hope he gets a look in for Utd at the end of the season and can keep up the momentum.Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
I will continue to bore the pants off people ( because I can!) but would many of us have been so reserved if this was Marc Wilson, Coleman or McCarthy who had played so well in the Champions League. I think not.
That's my point - Wilson, McCarthy and Coleman have produced consistently (albeit they've been given the chance to do so in the Prem). They're lauded not simply for one-offs, but for regular good to excellent performances. The praise is warranted through momentum.Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
Nothing about Gibson's performance last night was particularly surprising - we've seen him play that well before - but he's failed to capitalise on occasional flashes of excellence. Consistency is probably still one of the biggest doubts about his game. However if he strings together three or four similar performances on the spin then we can start getting excited.
Gibson needs a platform such as Stoke, Wigan or Everton to bring his game on, where every mis-placed pass, non show for a ball or row Z shot isn't torn to shreds observers. He needs games and experience to compliment the education he's gotten at United. He hasn't got the nerve to develop accordingly under the scrutiny of the glare that surrounds United players or international footballers in my opinion. What is required to get him to deliver on his potential can't be afforded at Old Trafford or for Ireland, which is simply a run of games for him to become settled and get accustomed to the pressure without a huge expectation or media glare.
Gibson would be a better player if he moved on but would likely have less to show for his career if he does..
Edit:: Maybe not Wigan, cos I don't think he has the bottle for a relegation battle either!!
That was the same arguement that was thrown at O Shea for years. Not saying your wrong about Gibson but they guy definately has enough talent to play for United, just a question of if he has the right desire and temperament in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
But if I could be at a club where I had the chance of playing in occasions like the Champions league semi final or a career of mid table obscurity I know which one Id choose.
Fergie might just keep him around for the mesmerising effect he seems to have on German goalkeepers. He rocked Jorg Butt into a similarly derisory attempt at a save for Bayern at Old Trafford last year. Then again, if he does sign Neuer...
Failed to make the bench for the Chelsea match. O'Shea starts though.
Can't be too many players who score in the champions league semi final and then get dropped completely for the next game.
O'Shea has been excellent so far by the way.
Despite his display against Schalke, Gibson being dropped is not a huge surprise nor unexpected. Ferguson was resting players specifically for todays game.