15/17 here. One that I'd just never have gotten and one that I had to kick myself for not getting.
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15/17 here. One that I'd just never have gotten and one that I had to kick myself for not getting.
14/17
Forgot one played under Martin. Forgot one existed. And didn't dare guess the other despite my gut.
Irish kitman Dick Redmond on Martin O'Neill: http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/socc...artin-10439878
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Originally Posted by Cormac Byrne
quiz has a slight bug in it. for one player you have to misspell his surname but the results show it spelt correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
"They walk out, and they’re a little bit taller."
No harm in our case.
Let's not talk about "walk outs" in this thread ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Dan McDonnell reports that Limerick were willing to make Keane the best paid manager in the League of Ireland by offering him €250,000 per year: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-35732042.html
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Originally Posted by Dan McDonnell
Denied in the Limerick Leader: http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/ho...medium=twitter
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"There have been absolutely no discussions with Roy Keane. The story is absolute, total rubbish. He just happened to be at a match and people speculated. We have appointed our manager."
Would be more inclined to believe the report in the Leader. POS is a wealthy enough man, but don't really believe he would be in a position to drop a quarter of a million a year on a manager.
Great interview with Martin O'Neill on Off The Ball last week: https://cdn.radiocms.net/media/001/a...audio_file.mp3
It's about an hour long, and the volume jumps in a few places, but was a great way to pass the time driving back to Dublin yesterday
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Originally Posted by bennocelt
His exploits in the SPL are not to be sniffed at either - Celtic finished 21 points behind Rangers the season before he arrived and 15 points ahead of them in O'Neill's first season, when they also won only their third ever treble (the other two were the Lisbon Lions side and Brendan Rodgers is the first manager to do it since). Celtic had only won one league title in twelve years and four trophies in total since the 80's. O'Neill won seven trophies in five years, oversaw records of 25 league wins in a row and seven Old Firm wins in a row.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
And obviously the European campaigns were even more impressive, Celtic hadn't played a game in Europe after Christmas in well over twenty years before O'Neill came in!
'Honorary degree for Ireland boss Martin O'Neill': http://www.derryjournal.com/news/hon...eill-1-8039438
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Originally Posted by Derry Journal
That hat looks like a sat upon, broad black brimmer.
Just seeing confirmation that the contracts of O'Neill and Keane will be renewed at the end of this campaign, even if we fail to qualify for Russia, as is likely: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/i...deal-z9vzfdzjn
A "ticket to success"? I'd love to be able to say that description was premature (at worst), but that's far from the worst criticism you could level at it. It's just so ill-suited right now, mere days after Serbia have made it all but impossible for us to qualify for Russia, and inapplicable in light of the performances that were served up over the past four games to leave us in the sorry situation we're in; that being having to wait another month just to have it confirmed to us that we can finally stop wasting our thoughts on Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Doyle
If we make it to the World Cup, it'll have been a ticket to success, but the chances of that are remote. It'd be a miracle. Otherwise, this campaign has been a miserable failure - we've been awful, stale, overly-cautious and, as SvD pointed out in the Serbia match-thread, far too reactive - and we didn't even have a team the calibre of Spain, Germany, Italy or France to contend with in our group. This group was there for the taking. With some better decision-making and a more proactive strategy, rather than the erratic on-the-backfoot approach, we could easily have been top of this group by two points now going into the final two games instead of teetering on the brink, more or less needing to beat Wales in Wales and desperately begging the football gods for highly unlikely results in other groups to work in our favour, just for a chance of having a stab at the play-offs (unseeded, I might add).
I can't really understand why the FAI are already guaranteeing a contract renewal (assuming what the alleged source is reported to have said is true). It appears, from the preview I can see of the paywall-protected piece on the Times' website, that O'Neill's record this campaign is being defended because we've had injuries... :confused: Coleman has been a big loss without doubt, but, otherwise, it's not as if we've suffered uniquely in some way from some sort of injury epidemic. The odd injury here and there is something that all football managers have to commonly deal with.
If the present contract was simply allowed to run out after this campaign, we could have just freshened things up then. No sacking needed that way either (technically).
If O'Neill does get his contract renewed, it is not certain that he will sign it if we fail miserably over the next two games.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
There is also the hope that he will return to his senses and not make hair brained decisions like playing Glenn Whelan in midfield, when the whole world is telling him not to, and omitting Wes Hoolahan when the whole world can see we are a vastly better team with him playing.
One would hope he would come to his senses, but then the question must be asked why he ever thought that way in the first place?
I was a big fan of Martin O'Neill during his tenure at Celtic and Leicester and frequently lauded him as the best manager in these islands. But some of the decisions he has made since early June, have been mind boggling.
Ireland suffer from the problem which besets all smaller countries - that being there is no room for error with team selection. We simply don't have the resources to leave impact players out of the team, yet we do it far too often.
While I appreciate I am probably out of line with most on here, we are still in with some chance of qualifying, be it small. I agree that O'Neill is often too defensively minded and his team choices are not what most of us agree with. On the glass half full side of things, Alex Ferguson nearly got sacked in 1990 and as they say the rest is history. Hopefully, MONROY's supposed reappointment will prove equally fruitful.
Don't believe its as small as people are saying. Well capable of beating Wales and Moldova. Do that and I believe we will be in the play offs.Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
Haven't seen any other reports on it, other than the usual clickbait regurgitations of the original article
It was suggested somewhere that this was leaked to one or two well-placed journo's to float online to see the reaction, before entering discussions.
At this juncture, it would be madness to offer them a new 2 year contract. Absolute madness.
Jbyrne, we've agreed on plenty in the past; however, I can't agree with this: "Well capable of beating Wales and Moldova". If anything this campaign has proven we're incapable of beating most teams.
Hopefully we beat Moldova but it will take one hell of a performance to beat Wales in Wales.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
Bale is miles ahead of anything we have and Ramsey on form is also ahead of what we have got .
How many of our players would get in the Wales Team......
Hasn't it proven we're capable of beating Georgia, Moldova and Austria?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
I agree that we're capable of beating them since they are on a par with us, Bale aside. However, to beat two of our rivals away from home in the same campaign is asking a lot but I do think it will favour us if Wales only need a draw. However, looking at the permutations as regards best runner-up, it looks like Wales will also need to win. We might have McCarthy and Hendrick back by then and hopefully be able to put out a strong side. I haven't given up hope yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
With us, hoofball never dies, it just redirects.
Aiden O'Hara writing in the Irish Independent wonders, if Ben Woodburn was Irish, would Martin O'Neill have given him an opportunity yet: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-36119032.html
He's probably right to think it less likely than more likely.
The contrast between the cautious O'Neill and Coleman, who has enough faith in his own judgment to take a risk, is stark.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aiden O'Hara
oneill has taken risks too at times but obviously that's generally been forgotten. was kevin long starting against Austria not a risk? or the new ctre back partnership in the win against Italy in the Euros?Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
its not as if woodburn started either of wales last two games and he was instead thrown on only when wales were struggling and running out of ideas. maybe the risk oneill took last week against Serbia was to put on odowda.... not oneills fault that odowda isn't the same quality player as woodburn
Fair enough points, although I would have thought going with Daryl Horgan might have been the "risk" option against Serbia as Horgan had/has yet to play in a competitive fixture. I think Horgan is a more dangerous and penetrative player than O'Dowda with an explosive yet deceptive burst of pace, but O'Neill clearly doesn't have enough faith in him yet, which is unfortunately. Of course, I do acknowledge it's all very subjective and personal preference can lead to bias or weigh heavily on whether or not one thinks O'Neill made a "safe" call or took a "risk".Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Kevin Long's inclusion against Austria was an odd one. It was very much out-of-the-blue, but I'd actually put it in the reactive (rather than proactive) bracket. Two or three EPL appearances for Long in the run-up to that game appeared to heavily or disproportionately influence O'Neill's decision-making process at the time, as if it all-of-a-sudden proved to O'Neill that Long was a safe choice, and then Long was effectively dropped again for the next game for no apparent reason. Would O'Neill have checked Long out of his own volition and selected him purely on the basis of his own personal judgment if the player hadn't been fortunate enough to get those appearance for Burnley at the end of the last EPL season? It's hard to know. Personally, I don't think O'Neill's trust in his own judgment would stretch that far; it just seems very reliant on the calls of club managers, as if they provide O'Neill with a sort of defensive/supportive crutch, shoulder for potential blame-sharing or something to fall back upon if the call goes wrong. That's just how it seems to me.
People say O'Neill was unlucky with the Coleman injury, but the way Ireland approached that match is partially to blame for why it turned into such a reckless display of violence. A Welsh or Irish player was bound to get seriously hurt. A more positive approach and less hoofball and it might have been a more amicable match.
All our best results from the past 20 years are from when we got the ball on the ground and played football. We didn't beat Holland from set pieces.
O'Neill's management fairly being shown up by Maguire's Championship form.
Would you go away? The only person responsible for Coleman'ss injury is Taylor for the ridiculous tackle.Quote:
Originally Posted by brine3
It's like Shawcross on Ramsey. He probably didn't want to break Coleman's leg but you can't tell me he didn't mean to hurt him (not to that extent) to send a message.
I'm sure he feels gutted.
People punch people in the face and people end up in comas because they fall like a sack of potatoes and hit their heads on concrete; something that wouldn't be as dangerous if it happened on softer surfaces.
Maybe, you shouldn't put your whole bodyweight behind tackles like that, because, similarly, you cannot legislate for the consequences.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Taylor is responsible, yes. The managers are also responsible for instructing the players to play caveman football. Glenn Whelan nearly maimed a couple of Welsh players as well. The referee is also responsible for not cracking down on the match in the first half.
What I'm saying is that when you instruct your team to play rough, people will get hurt. So O'Neill shares responsibility. He also picked James McCarthy when he clearly wasn't fully fit yet, and James McCarthy's injury got even worse. Is O'Neill also unlucky because of that?
Nobody else is responsible besides Taylor.
sure murphys form for forest is similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Murphy would have been the prototypical Trapattoni forward.
Imagine him coming on instead of Sammon against Austria when we drew 2-2.
Murphy played in Trap's first ever game but Trap obviously didn't rate him too highly as he preferred Caleb Folan and Sammon over him.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
I think Daryl was playing most of his football out wide, for club and country then.
Didn't he set one up for Andy Keogh in that Serbia game?
Amazing amount of analysis occurring on here. Would O'Neill play Woodburne? We don't have this situation, so why ask the question. Maguire is also being portrayed as the Messiah and we should condemn O'Neill for not picking him. Yes, he is a good player, and hopefully will develop further, but he has scored two goals in the Championship. Hourihane has scored more. Maybe we put Hourihane forward as per some of the supposed logic on here. I am being highly cynical, but give me patience, there is far too much garbage being portrayed as debate on here presently.
No, it's complete nonsense. The only over-aggressive tackles on the day came from Welsh players. Blaming O'Neill for Wales players going over the ball is next-level bull****.Quote:
Originally Posted by brine3
I don't know why you're bringing up picking McCarthy as it has nothing to do with your badly-conceived point.
The match was a feast of lunging in left, right and centre into 50/50 tackles. Somebody was bound to break somebody's leg eventually. As it was, it was Taylor's boot connecting with Coleman's leg.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Sure, Taylor is responsible for that. But, on another day, with two different managers playing different football, it's possible that all 22 players would have left the pitch injury-free.
Well if you don't want to engage me on the McCarthy point then you don't have to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin