Let me guess, by cheque? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by weecountyman
Let me guess, by cheque? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by weecountyman
I'd be genuinely interested to know what are the odds that Cork City will be playing Premier football this year?
You sir, just made my day.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecountyman
Roddy has had chances galore and leaves a stream of ill feeling behind everywhere he goes. Bohs (looking for huge money), Carlisle (sacked twice in 18 months), Dublin City (only 4 months there and jumped ship, although there is no-one left from there to hate him), Rovers (remember the charity boxing), Florina and now before a ball is even kicked Cork fans hate him.
He has a personal fall-out with someone at every club he has been at.
If Flora pro-active do get relegated, does that count as Roddy managing a team to relegation?
1/1,000,000 I would guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie
What are the odds on the current set up being part of the LOI at all for 2010 season?
I honestly don't believe Collins will manage Cork for even one game.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecountyman
It does seem a common theme "an individual" causing problems for Roddy, he used the same against Floriana but not the actual person he originally fell out with as he was using him to get info on what the club were doing (this person was named and shamed in the Maltese papers).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy
If Floriana do get relegated, which is almost impossible to imagine, Roddy won't have gotten them relegated - he never makes mistakes and it's never his fault. Remember when he ran away the club were in 5th and unbeaten in 7 games, of course the fact that he'd been telling players not to sign and tapping up players to go with him won't be of any concern, because it's the truth. But the fact remains, he won't have been in charge for relegation - however, with Cork...... :(
Never fear, Tommy will always find a way to come up with the money :p . He has a track record of doing so.Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
Only the 2nd most talked about?? Who on earth is the first?Quote:
Sorry Shoddy - Collins apologises to Floriana
Special by Kevin Muscat for Malta Today Weekend
The 2nd most talked about coach in Malta this season last night apologised to his employers, the Floriana Irish, for his false statements in the media. "
There's someone worse than Roddy? *shivers*
Taken from Malta Today, em, today www.maltatoday.com - em comes out in paper form on Sundays (just found out)
+The 2nd most talked about coach in Malta this season last night apologised to his employers, the Floriana Irish, for his false statements in the media. "[/QUOTE]Quote:
Sorry Shoddy - Collins apologises to Floriana
Special by Kevin Muscat for Malta Today Weekend-
The 2nd most talked about coach in Malta this season last night apologised to his employers, the Floriana Irish, for his false statements in the media. "Shoddy" Roddy Collins, better known for his outlandish garb and tight tracksuit, retracted his statements made on numerous radio stations and in newspapers, most notably on Ireland's newstalk radio (where he is a paid pundit). Collins ran like the wind from the Hibs ground on the 13th of December last year in order to make a meeting with the owner of Cork City F.C.. Collins was claiming to be a free agent yet at the same time was negotiating a 2 year extension to his existing Maltese deal. On the 14th he agreed to join Cork (upon presentation of his letter of termination) and it wasn't until the 16th that Collins emailed his resignation offer to Floriana, this after already admitting he was about to take over Cork's vacant job.
The saga took a number of twists and turns with the Irishman badgering the Irish to sign a free release so that he could take up the Cork job and when pleading didn't work he began to make threats, which he made good on by slandering the club in the media. For a change the Floriana committee stood firm and saw Shoddy announced as the new Cork boss on the 23rd. The Greens made good on their promise to pursue matters and a court letter to Collins shocked the Irishman into admitting he had lied and apologising for "being misquoted". He went on, in communication with the committee, to apologise for the hurt his words and actions had caused and hoped "to remain a friend of the club". He admitted that he had been paid up to date and that Floriana had worked very hard to fulfil their obligations to him, and that until he left he had done the same.
Acting President Cauchi was unavailable tonight for comment and it has been said that Floriana and Cork are now in contact regarding a compensation settlement that should be concluded on Monday. Whether Cork City and their colourful owner, Thomas Coughlan, will be in a position to pay remains unknown, as does their league status and licence. A close friend of Roddy spoke with this reporter regarding the retraction and apology. "He (Collins) hopes that this will bring an end to the conflict as he was only acting in his family's best interests. Malta was too far away and he was desperate to get home to them. I hope Floriana will accept this as Roddy is really sorry for going so far." -In the colourful history of this difficult character it remains to be seen whether he will find a home in Cork or leave because of another individual before the seasons end. Collins may have brought colour to the BOV, but right now Floriana would prefer points to media exposure in their battle to get back into the Championship Pool.
Pauro and Leixlip, the most talked about coach is the Valletta guy (who applied, along with Roddy) for the Pats job after Jeff Kenna. He seems almost as modest as Roddy and supposedly buys his gear from a Dutch tailor called Louis van Coopeland (no relation). :-)
Heard an interview with Shoddy on RedFM tonight, refused point blank to answer any questions on Floriana and proceeded to spout his usual diatribe ad nauseum. He's some langer.
In fairness I don't think he can answer any questions on them because he'd be destroyed. I think his answer will only be "my legal people are dealing with it" which means "I can't talk anymore about or or the wife will bash me" :DQuote:
Originally Posted by razor
What was his main line of patter, about the greatness of Cork City FC and how he'll mould them in his own image?
Outlandish garb and tight tracksuit? I heart Malta
Gareth Farrelly and Paul Doolin were both on 'Now that's what I call Sport' on Dublin's 98fm earlier this morning. Criticised Tom Coughlan, Alan Mathews and new GM Liam Meaney as they made it quite clear they're still owed a large amount of money ahead of the licencing deadline.
They said it will be podcast later, here somewhere I assume http://www.dublins98.ie/
Farrelly's story was amazing, not only what he went through healthwise but what he's gone through since in the financial back and forth with CCFC. He confirmed he was offers the City Manager job when Doolin left.
Assuming all they said is true it means the club still hasn't answered outstanding payments to former players and staff that was due Dec 21st. Tom Coughlan being allowed tonfudge through a licence is looking less and less likely.
assuming tnb is not a complete idiot and has some idea about what he is doing how on gods green earth does he expect to get a licence .what is he up to. i mean if he set out to destroy cork city he could not have done a better job
About how he is the man and Cork is a great club, blah de blah de blah then throwing in a large slice of Georgie to try and win back the Ocaliban, (it already has the usual pities on our forum salivating at the mouth) and then an attempt at peacemaker, saying we should put all previous issues with Tom aside and unite in the name of city.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecountyman
Quote of the interview was when he tried to play dumb to all our troubles saying "I've come in here, innocent". :eek:
I nearly choked on my tea.
If we get a licence i'll be sending a box of this to Abbottstown.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
Butlers' fudge is quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
Surely you could find a Tesco value box of it?
That could catch on! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by razor
catch on? It's been around since the days of the "RF" "RP" and the late lamented "BRB"Quote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
You'll have to pay more attention in class :D ;)
I think he says that at every club.Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
The "innocent" bit he tried on Newstalk, if anyone heard him. He started slandering Floriana and they let him get up a head of steam until HE not only hadn't been paid in 8 weeks, been left penniless on the street, without a car and mobile phone (kind of jarred with the fact that the club were flying him back and forward for games, him staying in a 5-star luxury hotel free of charge and being given a car for the time he was in Malta, plus a thousand quid a week- surely he'd have just jacked it in right away). But then the players hadn't been paid all season, none of them! And that this was the reason he had left.
At which point texters then questioned why he was going to a club that hadn't paid players or staff either. His answer "That's nothing to do with me. It's not relevant." I didn't know whether to admire the man for having a neck of such metallurgic value, cry with laughter, or call Grangegorman to reserve a giant ego sized padded cell!
By the way, Floriana managed to stop the rot with a 1-1 draw and got back into 6th place, but they now have 3 more injuries to deal with and only 12 fit players to choose from, 4 of those being under-18.
I thought a point made by weecountman on another thread re: the effect of a Boycott and Roddy was worth dragging in here. Also, it was easier to copy my reply than start tyoing again. Think the boycott debate is worth including here.
By the way, Roddy told RedFM that Cork City have excellent training facilities. If anyone knows where these are, answers on a postcard to
Confused,
Outside Turner's Cross with a Placard,
Cork.
I think this is accurate enough to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecountyman
As much as Tom Coughlan's name is mud in and around Cork City, the Great Cork Sporting Public (TM) will drag their backsides onto any bandwagon they see gathering pace. If we get a Premier Division licence, Roddy brings back George O'Callaghan, Liam Kearney back, hangs onto Danny Murphy, Dan Murray, Billy Dennehy then people will attend. If we're challenging, numbers will grow and the games against Rovers and Bohs will bring out large crowds.
The attendances towards the end of last season were in the 1200-1700 range, this was buoyed significantly by those people who had season tickets in their pockets [whether they were intending to renew or not] and for the last month, those who were getting in free [and trading to get in free] with the An Post vouchers. The numbers we were getting on the gates did not translate into gate takings, we were brining in a pittance.
I think you'll see a sizeable fall off in season tickets this season, though they've put a good package together, and there's a large chunk of the hardcore that won't come back while Tom Coughlan is around. But we had 5,500 against Bohs last season for one match, so there really is a swing of about 3-4,000 people who'll turn up if the weather is nice and if there's nothing else on and there's a bit of a buzz around.
If Roddy can get a bit of a bandwagon rolling, which his bluster is capable of doing, as Dolan's was, then the club should be able to maintain 2,500 through the gates once they're challenging [if they've based their budgets on a crowd of more than that, they're nuts].
The problem the club will have is if it doesn't click and they can't attract the bandwagon contingent. The number of people who would usually be there regardless [I count myself among those] which I reckon was always about 1500-2000 has been decimated. If the club doesn't start the league well, there are off-field problems reported, I think we'll dip into three figures for a league game, something I don't think has happened since the whole Bishopstown fiasco.
This must come out of his original false claim that training facilities in Malta were "attrocious" and "non-existent". He apologised for that and admitted that Floriana's facilities "were no worse than what we have in Ireland", but this mealy mouthed apology was a bit odd when the players went for pre-match meals at a 5-star hotel, and recovery training at another 5-star hotel gym and spa. Where are the Cork boys training right now? I presume pre-season is back on.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
I think pre-season training starts next weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecountyman
I'm not sure where it's going to take place, my understanding is that we've been locked out of Bishopstown [though that could have been sorted out, I'm not sure]. There's the added complication that Cork City don't really get credit anymore, so I'd imagine we'd have to pay up front if we were renting facilities from a local soccer or GAA club?
The other question there of course is who's going to show up?
I think we only have 5 contracted players, who I believe are still owed wages for December. There's rumours around Cork that Roddy is only interested in hanging onto 1 of those 5 contracted players as well, it's very strange.
Also, through last year our underage structure was particularly badly treated and we've lost a lot of young players, some very promising, some less so [but all were at the club for a reason]. How many of our underage and u20/A Championship squads there is to draw from is uncertain.
Of course some couldn't care less about the underage set-up and once they see 11 senior players paid they don't place any value on a youth structure [or looking 3/4 years ito the future even]. Though they're generally morons best ignored, anyone with half a brain would recognise the importance, especially so in LoI, of maintaining a stream of quality young players coming through.
It's a shame our own has fallen so low when you look at a list of the players in the past 6/7 years who have come through CCFC [or who were "reborn" here after coming back at a young age] and are now playing full time professional football in the UK. Many of those transfers brought in much needed money at much needed times in the past.
Damien Delaney [Capped Senior International]
Alan Bennett [Capped Senior International]
Kevin Doyle [Capped Senior International]
Shane Long [Capped Senior International]
Joe Gamble [Capped Senior International]
David Meyler [Premiership starts this season]
Roy O'Donovan
John O'Flynn
Denis Behan
Leon McSweeney
Brian Barry Murphy
Colin Healy even
For the interest of Cork fans from In Nazzjon newspaper: http://www.nazzjon.com.mt/
Collins signed "In good faith" by Paul Agius
Forgot to add, the photo's shown were Roddy holding a Floriana shirt and one holding a Cork scarf, same smile, same look everything.Quote:
Cork City F.C. of Cork, Ireland signed Roddy Collins "in good faith" because he 1. told them he was "a free agent" and 2. he signed a legal affadavit to state the same. Collins apologised to Floriana F.C.'s committee, players and fans on Friday as the deadline fell on him to do so. The dirty way he spoke of the club he retracted, saying he was angry the club were being so tough with him. Tough with him for demanding he honour his contract and to leave deserved the club compensation.
Cork are to return with compensation for Floriana F.C under pressure from the F.A.I., failure will mean relegation and Collins ban from football. On NetTV President Joe Cauchi said Collins retraction and apology was "appreciated", Floriana have to receive compensation in the region of €28,000 to release Collins. In a personal interview with a Maltese newspaper Collins, now in Ireland, said "The club were very good to me, I owe them alot. I have no problem with anyone there, they were great. I have to look after my family and Cork does this and gets me back to where I want to be, the League of Ireland." On his allegations "I was angry and misquoted, sure I wouldn't have been in Malta if I wasn't getting paid right. They paid me right, they helped me out and understood my situation. I didn't mean what I said and I'm sorry it caused hurt to the club and people involved. I only wish them the best and maybe I cna go back there to manage them one day."
The story now hinges on if Cork meet their compensation deadline and it is accepted by Floriana. Cauchi said, "We're very reasonable, I and my Board colleagues have worked very hard and we only want fair play. Mister Liam Meaney was very good in his manners and I believe we will get the compensation we deserve." Cork were unavailable for comment last night.
That's some list of players, and it's both a good and bad indictment on Cork that such talents have passed through the club and are now elsewhere. Denis Behan I thought had a real knack of scoring good goals and losing Joe Gamble is a loss to the league. David Meyler is a talented lad and I just hope there is some good young players due to come through from the under age ranks.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
Who is in charge of the underage set up? I thought it was being run as a separate entity with the MFA guiding it, or maybe I'm mistaken. The amount of senior and junior clubs in the area also bodes well for picking up players, yet how many would be willing to join a side with such uncertainty.
Liam Murphy runs/ran [not sure what the current situation is] the underage structure at CCFC and has done a phenomenal job, he has a knack for spotting talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecountyman
The amount of damage done to it last season cannot be underestimated though and as it stands it'd be hard for anyone to sell the club as an option to a promising young player.
You'd think that with Cobh now out of the equation that local players would see the value in joining Cork City, if for nothing else as a means to getting to England or Scotland! How are City faring with their underage teams, are they winning anything?
Cork is riddled with scouts for cross-channel clubs, many go directly as it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecountyman
The big advantage City had in recent years was the ability to point to players like Kevin Doyle who saw out their education in ireland and still play at the highest levels possible. It's a good sell to parents rightly worried about sendign children away from home, especially when you have Eoin Hand working at trying to resettle young players who burn out too young in England after going over at 13/14.
City's underage teams were always very competitive. We won the u20 Cup last season. The 4-2 extratime victory over UCD in the semi-final was the most exciting game I saw last season.
It'll be interesting how the powers that be at Cork City and the FAI handle the club's opening competitive fixture this year.
Munster Senior Cup
Cork City -v- Castleview
To be played Weekend january 23rd/24th
I assume any team put out would all have to be registered with the association, so no new signing made by Roddy Collins in the interim would be allowed to play, since the transfer embargo will apparently not be lifted until after the audited accounts are submitted.
We have maybe 4/5 players under contract and the rest of the squad will have to be made up from the youth ranks. Interesting time ahead.
a good opportunity for the kids thouQuote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
http://www.eleven-a-side.com/premier/news.asp?n=37860
Cork City’s hopes of remaining in the Premier Division for 2010 rest on the payment of around €300,000 owed to former staff members by the end of the month, according to a Monday morning newspaper report.
The FAI’s licensing committee will make a final decision on the applications of all League of Ireland clubs, including Cork City, after the January 31st deadline for the payment of all outstanding debts.
According to the Irish Daily Star, Cork owe approximately €150,000 to former boss Alan Mathews, who was sacked from the Turners Cross job in December 2008, and a further €17,000 to Mathews’s successor Paul Doolin who stepped down at the end of 2009.
Former players Gareth Farrelly, Pat Sullivan, Robert Mezeckis, Colin Healy, Darren Murphy and Joe Gamble, as well as players still under contract at the club, are said to be owed a further €130,000.
If Cork fail to honour all those payments, there is hope in the fact that an agreement to defer the outstanding sums could satisfy the FAI’s licensing department.
However, with club owner Tom Coughlan having fallen foul of the Association in recent months, there must be a distinct possibility that the governing body will refuse to sanction any further deferrals and instead strip the club of its Premier Division license.
another fundraising scheme from TNB :D
full details here http://corkcityfc.ie/main.php?action...eadlineID=1226Quote:
In February, Cork City Football Club will be launching a new Official Members Club to allow all supporters a valuable input into the day to day business of the Club.
€500 - €179 [season ticket] - €52 [lotto?] = €269 per annum to cast your vote.
I wonder how much attention Tom Coughlan will pay to your 'Vote'.
On a personal level, I don't know whether to laugh or cry!
The funny thing is that after the Winding Up Order last season, Tom Coughlan promised a share scheme which would allow the people of Cork a say in the running of the club and an ownership stake. it's funny that there seems to be no share or ownership for people out of this.
I don't believe this, I read through and blinked. This is a perversion of 2 things, the Shamrock Rovers model and what was established this year in Floriana. But the difference is that there is almost no power given to the fans through this, and it's not even an investment! Anyone putting money into this is going to find that from all money collected it will bleed from the club and disappear. I thought there was no lower they could go, but this....Quote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
An word on the re-shueduled Setanta cup game against Rovers down in Cork! Any truth in that it could be mid / late February. Or is 4 or 5 weeks just too far into the future for Cork to predict at the moment!Quote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
4 or 5 days is the max at the moment :DQuote:
Originally Posted by redobit
The constitution will be interesting, I can think of a third membership scheme this seems a perversion of.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecountyman
On a completely unrelated note, people can join FORAS
€120 p.a. [€10 p.m.] Waged Adult
€60 p.a. [€5 p.m.] Unwaged Adult/Student/OAP
€24 p.a. [€2 p.m.] U-16 [non-voting membership, includes free FORAS scarf]
see www.forastrust.ie for more detail, the trust constitution is up there for 'review' also :D
Bascially they're looking for the supporters to pay for the club yet have no say in it (not FORAS) and are looking to make more profit off their backs, while keeping themselves in a job. I can see it all ending in tears.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
I'd rather give my money to an African prince.Quote:
Originally Posted by yiddo