James McCarthy M free agent b.1990

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07/02/2011, 3:25 PM
jbyrne

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Originally Posted by AlaskaFox

And since then it's been proven that it's a calf injury and not "tiredness" at all.

i only reported what i heard. what proof anyway??
07/02/2011, 3:31 PM
tetsujin1979

Hyland stirring it in the Herald today: http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/da...e-2528384.html
07/02/2011, 3:40 PM
SwanVsDalton

Absolute non-story. McCarthy's family moving to Derry is a new one on me though...
07/02/2011, 3:40 PM
Fixer82

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Originally Posted by AlaskaFox

We'll also see Robbie Keane play on Saturday/Sunday, but does that really mean anything?

Robbie has nothing to prove
07/02/2011, 3:44 PM
Sullivinho

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Hyland stirring it in the Herald today: http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/da...e-2528384.html

With some assistance from Trap if those quotes are accurate!

This is interesting though:

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"I am disappointed he is not here. We asked him in the summer and his manager said 'Please excuse him but he is tired'. Twenty-one and tired . . . but that's okay. I have respect for my colleague (Martinez).

Wasn't 'tiredness' cited this time also, at least initially? Sounds like the club line to me. They're coddling him.
07/02/2011, 3:50 PM
geysir

You have to read the last sentence.

"Maybe I will try to speak with his manager and maybe with him. Maybe he is tired, maybe he is injured," said Trap.
07/02/2011, 6:11 PM
irishultra

dunphy thinks well lose mccarthy
07/02/2011, 6:20 PM
shakermaker1982

Loads of players are dropping out for this international break. Fabregas and Van Persie have suddenly got a bug/flu, starfish Gerrard hurts his groin, Keane pulls out with a calf strain etc etc.

McCarthy is too important for Wigan and they are wrapping him in cotton wool. Martinez must have had a word and unfortunately Wigan pay his wages so we won't get to see him play.
07/02/2011, 7:04 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by irishultra

dunphy thinks well lose mccarthy

Yes, the lure of playing for Craig Levein must be too tempting.
07/02/2011, 7:05 PM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Hyland stirring it in the Herald today: http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/da...e-2528384.html

Never lets it lie does he. 2 page spread in the hard copy as well that isn't online. And Daniel McDonnell needs to give it a rest at this stage and all. Why the hell did the media lads not let up on this today, they know it's going to **** Trap off and they're purely doing it to get a reaction. Tabloid hackery at it's worst from lads that should know better. They're getting more like the UK red tops by the week.
07/02/2011, 7:36 PM
AlaskaFox

https://twitter.com/#!/McDonnellDan/...51178130219008

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Be careful before jumping to conclusions re: McCarthy. Situation revolves around Wigan's plight, not nationality or notions of changing mind
07/02/2011, 7:41 PM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by AlaskaFox

https://twitter.com/#!/McDonnellDan/...51178130219008

That's good to hear.

That's what makes the fact that so many journos wouldn't let it drop today all the more annoying, they're lack a gang of kids pulling a dogs tail to see how he reacts and then whinging about it when they get bitten.
07/02/2011, 7:42 PM
Paddy Garcia

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Originally Posted by AlaskaFox

https://twitter.com/#!/McDonnellDan/...51178130219008

Who is he?
07/02/2011, 7:44 PM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

Who is he?

Indo journo.
07/02/2011, 8:04 PM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

Never lets it lie does he. 2 page spread in the hard copy as well that isn't online. And Daniel McDonnell needs to give it a rest at this stage and all. Why the hell did the media lads not let up on this today, they know it's going to **** Trap off and they're purely doing it to get a reaction. Tabloid hackery at it's worst from lads that should know better. They're getting more like the UK red tops by the week.

Hyland is known for his poison pen. Articles like that are exactly what we don't need right now. Tabloid hackery cost England any chance of Big Phil as manager after Sven and you would have to wonder if something similar could happen here
07/02/2011, 8:05 PM
dr_peepee

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

That's good to hear.

That's what makes the fact that so many journos wouldn't let it drop today all the more annoying, they're lack a gang of kids pulling a dogs tail to see how he reacts and then whinging about it when they get bitten.

Still though... Neither party are making the right noises. The tired thing has raised it's head again and been sustained.. Could easily have been dismissed and hasn't.
07/02/2011, 8:22 PM
paudie

Pulling out of a freindly squad is hardly the end of the world. Hopefully if he has a good run with Wigan until the end of the season he can be a part of the squad for the rest of the competitive games before the summer.
07/02/2011, 9:03 PM
TrapAPony

Just read this:

''Looks like we are going to lose james mccarthy to scotland strange trappatoni press conference today media starting to question his methods''

25 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry�

http://twitter.com/johnkennyrte
07/02/2011, 9:18 PM
elroy

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Originally Posted by TrapAPony

Just read this:

''Looks like we are going to lose james mccarthy to scotland strange trappatoni press conference today media starting to question his methods''

25 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry�

http://twitter.com/johnkennyrte

WTF?!? This sort of speculation does no good to anyone. We have no reason to doubt James, he has consistently stated that he wants to play for Ireland, even with recent approaches from Scotland. He will play for us and was apparently gutted that Wigan pulled him out of tomorrow nights game. What more do we want!??! Think we are just been slightly insecure over this.
07/02/2011, 9:18 PM
shakermaker1982

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/...and_wales.html

Given having a dig now as well....

Journalists are there to **** stir. The honeymoon period for the Trap is well and truly over I'm afraid with respect to the local media. The journalists are willing to stick the knife in at any opportunity (novelty factor has worn off. You only have to look at Capello and English media to see how a good relationship can turn sour) so it won't surprise me if this story runs for a little longer.
07/02/2011, 9:19 PM
elroy

Ok its the mail but heres the reassurance we all wanted
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...=feeds-newsxml
07/02/2011, 9:23 PM
Charlie Darwin

He's not going anywhere. Just like he hasn't gone anywhere the other 11 times he hasn't been picked for/made a squad.
07/02/2011, 9:35 PM
Stuttgart88

Fcuking stupid comments from Shay.
07/02/2011, 9:39 PM
Scooby Doo

YBIG carrying this...

http://twitter.com/johnkennyrte

Would suggest he's already gone! WTF!

Pretty well respected journo according to YBIG posters.
07/02/2011, 9:42 PM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by Scooby Doo

YBIG carrying this...

http://twitter.com/johnkennyrte

Would suggest he's already gone! WTF!

Pretty well respected journo according to YBIG posters.

Already posted, hope it's not true. Media seem determined to stir this wasps nest until someone gets stung.
07/02/2011, 9:43 PM
Scooby Doo

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

Already posted, hope it's not true. Media seem determined to stir this wasps nest until someone gets stung.

Sorry, didn't read back far enough....very anxious at the moment.
07/02/2011, 9:49 PM
Stuttgart88

Jaysus.
07/02/2011, 9:51 PM
Scooby Doo

Anxious re McCarthy situation! :o
07/02/2011, 9:53 PM
paul_oshea

He is a great dj but he hasn't been hot on sport in a while still is thay since the conference with given
07/02/2011, 9:55 PM
paul_oshea

I knew there was more to this from original squad selection
07/02/2011, 10:01 PM
LFCSixty/Eighty

So Trappatoni is having a go at McCarthy for not turning up for the friendly but yet he was the one that didn't include him in the original squad because he said he felt he was injured and wouldn't be ready to play. So he can't have it both ways!

I am disgusted as much as everyone else that he's not going to be there but at the end of the day the club has to look after their own needs and I'm keeping my fingers crossed this is their decison and not his.
07/02/2011, 10:04 PM
Stuttgart88

They're having kittens over on YBIG! Don't blame them mind you. I have that horrible feeling I got when I heard on my car radio that Roy Keane hadn't turned up for Quinn's testimonial.

They should play "Communication's Let Me Down" by Spandau Ballet on the PA tomorrow.
07/02/2011, 10:06 PM
Kingdom

To be fair, YBIG organise a fair aul sing song and get sh*t done as is said, but the discussion can be a bit wild and wide of the mark sometimes
07/02/2011, 10:07 PM
Kingdom

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

He is a great dj but he hasn't been hot on sport in a while still is thay since the conference with given

what?
07/02/2011, 10:09 PM
boovidge

I've got that feeling too Stuggart. No matter how much I tell myself it's just journos stirring and that we've been through this before, it feels different now somehow. I hope we get a definitive answer soon.
07/02/2011, 10:11 PM
theworm2345

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Originally Posted by Kingdom

To be fair, YBIG organise a fair aul sing song and get sh*t done as is said, but the discussion can be a bit wild and wide of the mark sometimes

Thats because you have the sensible old guard who started the site, produce the mags, and get sh*t down and then you have the other "parasites" as I call them who invaded the site around November of '08 as the site started to pick up in popularity. As the heads are far more laid back there than the folks here, and they basically have a sort of (formerly quite excellent) anything goes section, threads tend to degenerate rather quickly and I think it spills over into the Ireland section (for example, last time I posted Irish Scorers there, I believe yapster was also posting). I'm sure there are a handful of them who are sensible, but I lost the patience to attempt to weed them out a long time ago.
07/02/2011, 10:12 PM
Stuttgart88

Kingdom, I was trying to figure it out too. I think there should be a full stop after "while" and "thay" should be "that". So POS is asking if the John Kenny tweet was after Shay's comments were reported.

Common sense would suggest that he's not being risked by Wigan, which is the right decision in my opinion. If it's more sinister than that then it's a right royal fcuk up by FAI and/or the team's management and would be unforgivable. Tuff Paddy, D69er, soccerc - post here, not on YBIG!
07/02/2011, 10:15 PM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Kingdom, I was trying to figure it out too. I think there should be a full stop after "while" and "thay" should be "that". So POS is asking if the John Kenny tweet was after Shay's comments were reported.

Common sense would suggest that he's not being risked by Wigan, which is the right decision in my opinion. If it's more sinister than that then it's a right royal fcuk up by FAI and/or the team's management and would be unforgivable. Tuff Paddy, D69er, soccerc - post here, not on YBIG!

Only having a dabble over there Stutts! Not posting anything I've not said here! :)
07/02/2011, 10:16 PM
paul_oshea

Ya im asking IF stutts good man.sorry kingdom im mobile so even less commas than usual though the way the language is going you don't seem to need them anymore anyway!wondering of timings of said tweets.john kenny is a great dj.but not that involved with sport anymore bar motor racing.mobile puts in stupid words and its not easy put in commas

good to know ppl don't have me on ignore then.test worked Haha
07/02/2011, 10:17 PM
osarusan

I don't see how it adds up. He/Wigan pulled him out of the squad due to an (apparent) ankle knock, he says he's gutted not to be involved, then we're losing him?

When I read this from RTE it seems that Trap says the right things about him not being 100% and how Trap will wait for him.

Crazy comments from Given though. It's only those comments that would make me wonder if there is something else going on.

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