Respectfully disagree, I think they’re the clear no.3 in the AUL at the minute, a goalkeeper mistake let grattan back into the game last time out, village could have been out of site in the first half of that game
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Respectfully disagree, I think they’re the clear no.3 in the AUL at the minute, a goalkeeper mistake let grattan back into the game last time out, village could have been out of site in the first half of that game
But the end result is the same as last ten years they lost
For me knocknaheeney celtic are the no.3 in the cork aul not village as I said before won only an aoh ya brilliant cup to win and great for club ut can't be called 3rd best club in league with only thst trophy in there locker, knocknaheeney celtic will in my opinion match coachford with fire power both dodgey defenses but from midfield up there is nothing between them so if they meet in semi final it would be and unbelievable game, do think coachford will topple grattan in next round of aoh fixture as coachford home advantage.
I’m not on about size of the club or history, I’m talking about best team now, the best teams are in the premier, Village are a better side than Castleview and Watergrasshill, but below grattan and coachford, therefore 3rd best team, Donoughmore have a claim to that, but I reckon a full strength village just edge it for me personally
If you want to go off a teams history, fair enough. But the knocka team that dominated the league for a couple years are all nearly 8 years older and coming to the end if not playing somewhere else entirely, they’re not the same team whatsoever, the fact they couldn’t get promoted from a weak Premier A last season shows that
Both of ye have good points here both coachford and Knocka front line or very strong but agree with fish both backline not brilliant think and your right Ball their not same team think they added 9 players to team this year with progress them and village making hopefully it be very good prem next year
Knocka did a Rangers on it
Knocknaheeny Celtic are definitely top 5 teams in the AUL currently maybe top 3.
They have a fabulous side especially the front line, the manager is doing a great job and i`m absolutely delighted t see it.
As for top clubs that`s a different story, they wouldn`t make the top 12.
Knocka Celtic are serial folders aided by the leagues policy of allowing teams back in at levels above 3rd division.
It`s the age old sure they`ll walk the 3rd division and it`s not fair on those teams argument.
EVERY time a team folds and tries to return it should be to Div 3 in my opinion.
You should not be allowed to continually run a cycle of winning 1st div and cups, then winning prem A within a year or 2 and then after 1 or 2 years Prem when you have a bad season and plyers leave you fold for 2 or 3 years before starting again in Div 1.
My hope for this Knocka Celtic team is that they go premier next year, challenge the big teams. When the tough times come they dig in and keep the club going even if it means back to prem A or Div 1 and working to go back up again, and that they never again fold.
I`m not judging why they`ve folded previously etc by the way as it`s a tough place to be but it can`t happen as much as it does.
I agree something needs to be done for serial folders and definitely a reason Knocka lose a lot of respect in some people’s eyes.
But from a structural point of view they can’t end up in the lower divisions.
The lower divisions must be for newer clubs looking to develop and grow or second teams.
For the development of the league clubs must feel they can be competitive at their own level.
Without this you will loose teams.
I’m not sure what the correct answer is!!
I heard a good one recently Castleview B refusing to play Banteer in St Coleman’s Park in the Final of the Michèal’s Cup as Banteer play their home games on Astro.
This is one of the best yet!!!!
Good teams can play anywhere, do you think villages pitch has worried coachford in the last few years? I’m not a fan of Astro but that is nonsense
Banteer also loses games on the astro and wins some aswell and so does our second team they wins games on grass and loses on grass it's football who ever told you the information is living in cuckoo land boy.
Castleview B won well in St.Colemans last season when they were Grattan so i doubt they`ve a big issue with the venue. Either way that will be a good game tbh. 2 very decent sides for that standard. I`ll go watch that.Quote:
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I hear what you`re saying about the development in AUL 3 & 2, that said you can`t have a rejuvenated knocka walking every trophy in AUL 1 every 4 or so years either giving teams at around that level even less chance of success over a period of time.
I feel if you put them AUL 3 they find it slightly more difficult to sign people up to that project each time than they do currently and that gives a fairer reflection of the Club`s real level.
People and leagues have to remember it`s not a starting 11 that should dictate what division they go into it`s taking the club including committee into consideration and if they`ve folded numerous times then that`s obviously not strong enough other clubs have to build more slowly with recruiting guys that will stick around to attain the longevity that Knocka don`t bother their hole with. No point in clubs like that signing amazing players for 2-3 successful seasons then folding over and over again.
A team with more than 1 fold in the previous x no. of years should go 3rd division every time (potentially even 3rd division starting on -10 points etc) if they are serious then they need to put the years into building their club back u to prem level.
That all sounds bad but honestly i like Knocka Celtic and say these things as much for their sake as anything else.
The area could do with a solid consistent club and i think they should have enough catchment to sustain that despite the competition up there for players with castleview, grattan etc. (there are 15-20 players coming out of youths every year minimum at Castleview that can`t all go senior)
That’s rubbish about Castleview straight from horses mouth them lads would play in cow field in all fairness they’ve played out of Grattan park for years that place is upper Rylane the old pitch
Tis not rubbish it came directly from
the team themselves at a game they were playing in.
And unfortunately for them 99 times out of 100 Banteer would beat them.
I can only see 1 winner there
The one weekend where spoiled for choice Coachford game and village game and rain will ruin it
Village are a club over 35 years old . Played in the AUL since the club started . Won all the leagues up to premier . 35 seasons unbroken a real AUL club . Same for Grattan . Knocka are an absolute joke of a club . Win something fold head down to blarney street fold again and come back as knock again . A shambles and will win nothing . Thanks to Knocka and blarney street for pulling out for keeping village up ??Quote:
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Watergrasshill Castleview and Springfield and underage teams I think that would make them a bigger club then clubs that don’t
Your wrong again Buster you need to get your story right all them Knocka boys went up to Grattan keep up man
This has been a topic for a while here. What defines the biggest club?
Numbers? Trophies? Teams? Schoolboys' structure? All of them together?
Springfield has a very good schoolboys' setup, but nothing really goes to the adult level. Coachford is relatively new to the kids' section.
I honestly think teams fold in the northside because there are so many to choose from. Like Midleton, Carrigaline, Ringmahon, and even Coachford all have huge areas to pull from, with no competition. On top of that, it takes a lot to run a team—insurance, land, etc.
My answer would be the view overall but over the last 10 years bar recently they havnt really been bothered with the Aul two Prem A titles in like 15 years is shocking but when its your 2nd,3rd or 4th team does it even matter.
Big game in Div 1 tonight, a win for Banteer and they’re as good as up, a win for Los Zarcos and they’re right back in the title race.
Expect Banteer to win a close game.
Agree Banteer can be solid outfit at home
Most of that Grattan team is ex bohs ref, that knocka squad split between blarney street and glenthorn when they folded, blarney street folded, glenthorn looked decent for two years then 2/3 of them went to grattan for a year and back to knocka last seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Harsh ref
This discussion really shows what a shambles the AUL has been the last decade or so, the likes of Bohs, Glen Celtic, blarney street, killumney, all premier teams at the time folding, Inishvilla, macroom, temple, park, Pearse going senior. Grangevale going CBL. The league has been absolutely haemorrhaging teams and players, and that’s just at premier level
It gets worse going down the divisions
If we get games tomorrow fancy coachford handy enough if castleview don’t pull fast one and call it I know we had rain but if it’s dry tomorrow game should go ahead think village could sneak it if Jamie is playing if not it be same ol story Grattan win
Ah lads breaking news week 3 having few valentines pints up north side I’m out with the partner in Hannah’s word from view players they don’t want game to go ahead tomorrow injuries and players away killing um look like im heading to mayfield for definite this crowd pulling game
2 all in banteer both teams fighting for this league fair play
Zarcos should have won it in the end, great game of ball.Quote:
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Two good lower league teams to be fair any news on games today going ahead
Grattan village off ref called it, castleview heading to coachford to play as club called it before ref inspectedQuote:
Originally Posted by Harsh ref
Any idea why the Village game wasn't switched also? Surely they should of booked an astro to get it played, I'd fancy Village on the astro. Coachford will be delighted with the home advantage today I can see them getting 3 or 4, you need a tight small pitch to get the better off Coachford IMO. Coachford too far for me to take a trip today can anyway do a match report afterwards if possible please
The second time not booking an astro has cost village home advantage, already lost it to tramore and now grattan
Thanks Ros handy win for coachford think few could walk in this one hopefully good game but can see coachford hitting 5
Because the ref called itQuote:
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Calm down muzza, you're only just home pal. I don't think you would of started today anyway. Yeah I agree with you ballwasthere, Village should of pre booked astro for today's game and the tramore game before Christmas. Lost home advantage now in both, rookie stuff.
I’m retired until May no intention of playing until thenQuote:
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You should stay retire give the club a chance hahaha i think village let the ball drop today giving Grattan home advantage makes them strong fav to go through I see on app Castleview had there strongest team out and got battered coachford miles ahead of everyone else
Coachford we're a different animal today. Strong all over the pitch no real weaknesses and a strong bench to boot. Can't see them losing many games this year in cups or league. Never looked under pressure today against the view. They are definitely head and shoulders above the rest in my opinion.
Imagine Village did everything possible to get it played, tough place to go for any team, Village have AOH and Mossie left to play for but to O Neill park a very hard place to go now as a result of match being cancelled
With rain last few days village new that game was never going to go ahead I’ll say it again why they didn’t book all weathers that’s question I be asking committee they would of caught Grattan on Astro in my opinion
They did the same with tramore before Christmas, and that definitely gave them a disservice, don’t think it’s pulling a strike or anything like that but plain stupidity by whoever’s call it was, everybody seen the rain Thursday, very few games across Munster would have went ahead today
I’ll throw this out there the management got this 100% wrong up in village they should of booked Astro they missed the train it’s same ol story we promote all theses brilliant players but end up with nothing personally village will always be the spurs of Aul only job they have is taking points off big teams I think if they get right manager involved they actually be force
Cop on to yourself. Lennys first job in management and he took village to an AOH final with a very poor team. The man has village in a great place . And how in the name of god can you Just book an Astro pitch they’re clearly booked out . I no for a fact for the tarmore game he couldn’t get the pitch’s because they were booked . The ref called off the tramore game and the pitch was fine . Len is doing a fantastic job up in villageQuote:
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