FAI Junior Cup 2009/10

think regional in extra time 3-2

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Originally Posted by redcardrory

regional to win 2-1 in extra time (thats if jackman is playable cut up bad during the limerick match and its rainning now)

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the LDMC should have ensured the surface at Jackman Park was in immaculate condition for the biggest game of the season so far.Limerick playing there less than 48 hours before was ridiculous.Surely the FAI junior cup semi-final should have preference.....considering the grounds are the headquarters of the local governing body!!

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Originally Posted by redcardrory

no league of ireland has preference and the thing is a junior match can't be played on the pitch less than 48 hours before,they didn't think they would have to play a semi final there thats why the orinignal fixture was changed from saturday to sunday pitch is not great up there

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I'd imagine the condition of the pitch will affect the quality of the football tomorrow considering these are two of the best footballing sides in the country.I was hoping to get my moneys worth up there tomorrow:ball::bigsmile:

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Originally Posted by Spindoctor

I'd imagine the condition of the pitch will affect the quality of the football tomorrow considering these are two of the best footballing sides in the country.I was hoping to get my moneys worth up there tomorrow:ball::bigsmile:

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two of the best footballing sides in the country are you for real!

I apologise for the expletevises, but does anyone on this thread see how picky they look to normal footie fans?

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Originally Posted by blackjack

two of the best footballing sides in the country are you for real!

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well they are two of the four semi-finalists Blackjack!........and besides they do play a good brand of football...good luck to both teams tomorrow

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Originally Posted by hoops12

this is the junior soccer forum and are the clubs not doing their bit by lettin them use their ground,typicalsenior soccer always lookin for more

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Senior soccer lookin for more? They pay enough rent on the ground to be the priority.

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Originally Posted by redcardrory

just to let you know if a junior team needs a lend of jackman (example carew park 2009,killmallock2009)they had to pay as well just 150 euros less than what limerick pay and junior clubs own jackman and voted to help limerick 37 at the time out so don't diss junior clubs when they give out about the state of the pitch after a senior match there would be no senior soccer if it wasn't for junior council and clubs helping out limerick with a home base pitch,but junior fai is more important to these clubs than senior soccer and their first priority for use of jackman

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When did i diss Junior clubs?
How much do Limerick pay?

View 2-1 up at half time. Regional down to 10, keeper sent off. View v poor.

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Originally Posted by LmkSnr

View 2-1 up at half time. Regional down to 10, keeper sent off. View v poor.

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view won 4 1 view very poor as bad as i seen them pike view final still on but on this performance pike would batter them

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Originally Posted by Hatchet Harry

view won 4 1 view very poor as bad as i seen them pike view final still on but on this performance pike would batter them

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was it not 5 1?

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Originally Posted by Hairy Legs

was it not 5 1?

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he probably left a bit early view were not at best but still a good win ldmc charging 10 euro to get in robbing muppets tryin to make up for lack of people at it hope they dont get final

Ya it finished up 5-1, Ross Cosgrave got the last one. Fairview were desperate today and I don't think they will even deny that. It was an awful pity the keeper was sent off for Regional, think they would have beat um if it was 11 v 11. Fairview never came out of the traps, lacked conviction in any of their passing and it looked like they were down to 10 for alot of the game. V unlucky Regional and had a couple of chances to make it 2-2 except for last ditch defending from Fairview. Fairview MUST improve for final which I have no doubt they will.

Can anyone tell me why there wereLimerick refs appointed for the game? I thought at this stage of the competition out of town refs would have been in charge...

The sending off situation was quite comical. The keeper clearly took out the Fairview attacker and the ref blew it straight away. Then, for reasons unknown, seemed content to play on without carding the keeper. While the wall was being prepared, the linesman took it upon himself to tell the referee that it was a sending off offence, and he duly produced the red card. Strange.

It was a poor game, I think Pike will waltz this competition now if the objections business goes in their favour.

€10 to watch a junior game was absolutely ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by LmkSnr

Ya it finished up 5-1, Ross Cosgrave got the last one. Fairview were desperate today and I don't think they will even deny that. It was an awful pity the keeper was sent off for Regional, think they would have beat um if it was 11 v 11. Fairview never came out of the traps, lacked conviction in any of their passing and it looked like they were down to 10 for alot of the game. V unlucky Regional and had a couple of chances to make it 2-2 except for last ditch defending from Fairview. Fairview MUST improve for final which I have no doubt they will.

Can anyone tell me why there wereLimerick refs appointed for the game? I thought at this stage of the competition out of town refs would have been in charge...

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Brutal at 5 1, I think they would have taken that scoreline this morning, I would love to see them when they are on form. Did one of the players go in goal or what?

Sub keeper came on and Regional striker came off. Thought fairview were comfortable throughout the game a few long balls over the top early on. Other than that i didn't see regional put 2 passes together they looked a little out of their depth and had no one on the pitch to get stuck in when the game was getting away from them. all the same its not bad for a side who were playing in division 2A about 7 years ago to have pushed on to this level.

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Originally Posted by Begrudger

Sub keeper came on and Regional striker came off. Thought fairview were comfortable throughout the game a few long balls over the top early on. Other than that i didn't see regional put 2 passes together they looked a little out of their depth and had no one on the pitch to get stuck in when the game was getting away from them. all the same its not bad for a side who were playing in division 2A about 7 years ago to have pushed on to this level.

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I dont think thats entirely acurate! Regional were all over the view untill the red card which led to there first goal. They imposed themselves on the game from the kick off and were dictating the play....then came the red card. I think if Regional did have 11 they would have won it. Evan at right full for view was being given the run around by Fergal on the wing for Regional when they could afford to let him press on. They were targeting evan and he couldnt cope. The View didnt look comfortable on the ball up until they had the extra man so i dont think Regional were out of there depth.

both teams were poor but having said that watched Limerick Fc against Pike to-day and Pike were poor enough too, I said it to 1 of the ldmc officials that they were robbing people with the price of €10 and he said he thought it was great value for money, I bet he didnt have to pay it, , went to the Limerick V Pike game it was only €5

if its €10 euro for the final they can keep it

happy to view go through for one simple reason.................... any team to get beaten in a previous round of the competition doesnt deserve to be in the final for the best junior team in the country

really poor match,regional slightly better team before sending off,from my view on the standside it was the correct decision.not many players stood out maybe buckley for view and butler for reg.2nd goal a disaster for regional.were already getting roasted by doyle down that side so what the rightfull was doing when harmon burst through i,ll never know....also surprised galvin subbed when reg chasing a leveller.the pitch is a disgrace and the timing of the match meant many couldn,t go.

Whats the story re the Pike / Michaels affair ??

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Originally Posted by inspiron

Whats the story re the Pike / Michaels affair ??

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Objection being heard Tuesday week 13th April I heard.

lasd, watched the game today and although i felt bad for regional as it was tough that they had JJ sent off but i think that he probably deserved to go even though the ref did himself no favours by delaying the decision.To say Regional were all over View in til the sending off is a bit harsh in my opinion, Regional did not really create anything even the goal was a freak og. Fairview has the better chances with Grant stopping a Barrett effort going in . Regional looked Hungrier at the start but the View were slowly coming into the game and creating chances. Its impossible to say that Regional would have definately won if it stayed 11v 11, i personally think that Fairview would of won maybe 2-1 or so just like the league games, thought Christy Doyle and Darren O sullivan were very good for fairview and best for Regional were the left winger Fergal? and the very tall midfielder , sorry dont know his name was good along with danny galvin

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Originally Posted by lfc at heart

both teams were poor but having said that watched Limerick Fc against Pike to-day and Pike were poor enough too, I said it to 1 of the ldmc officials that they were robbing people with the price of €10 and he said he thought it was great value for money, I bet he didnt have to pay it, P*ick, went to the Limerick V Pike game it was only €5

if its €10 euro for the final they can keep it

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How did the Pike v Limerick game finish?

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Originally Posted by Hairy Legs

was it not 5 1?

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anyone have the teams that lined out.

Limerick teams, Limerick refs

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Originally Posted by faces

anyone have the teams that lined out.

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Not me sorry, playing myself, couldnt be at the game, did Pike go down to Limerick by the way?

Pike 1-2 Limerick. Game of 2 halfs, Limerick 2 up at ht, Pike unlucky not to get a draw by the end.

Fairview winning 5-1 and not playing well sounds like a good omen for them, how many at the game? E10 in sounds a but much and would easily put off at lot of lads.

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Originally Posted by hoops12

typicalsenior soccer always lookin for more

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They pay enough every week dont they? also provide a groundsman to keep the place some bit playable.

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Originally Posted by joeSoap

The sending off situation was quite comical. The keeper clearly took out the Fairview attacker and the ref blew it straight away. Then, for reasons unknown, seemed content to play on without carding the keeper. While the wall was being prepared, the linesman took it upon himself to tell the referee that it was a sending off offence, and he duly produced the red card. Strange.

It was a poor game, I think Pike will waltz this competition now if the objections business goes in their favour.

€10 to watch a junior game was absolutely ridiculous.

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what was even more comical was the sideline. when the ref was happy for regional to sort there wall before he sent jj off, jason was going ape on the line. the forth official was trying to clam him down while regional sideline was smug.

then tom duggan calls the ref and jj gets the red card and the regional line now gos ape and the forth offical is now trying to clam them down, while jason is now smug.

the forth offical must have been rightly p***ed of

priceless - for everything else theres mastercard (except the 10e in)

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Originally Posted by faces

anyone have the teams that lined out.

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Regional - Hartigan;Aherne;Reidy;Mullins;Cowpar;Butler;O'Dono ghue;O'Connell K;Galvin;Nash;O'Connell F; Subs Used - McMahon(GK);Foley;Finucane
Fairview - Hickey;Hehir;Harmon;Neary;Buckley;O'Brien;Hefferna n;Barrett;Grant; O'Sullivan;Doyle; Subs Used - Cosgrave;Danagher;Hannon

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Originally Posted by Ronald1

Regional - Hartigan;Aherne;Reidy;Mullins;Cowpar;Butler;O'Dono ghue;O'Connell K;Galvin;Nash;O'Connell F; Subs Used - McMahon(GK);Foley;Finucane
Fairview - Hickey;Hehir;Harmon;Neary;Buckley;O'Brien;Hefferna n;Barrett;Grant; O'Sullivan;Doyle; Subs Used - Cosgrave;Danagher;Hannon

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How many attended this game lads?

I would say around 300. Most likely that another 300 turned around and walked away when they saw the admission fee.

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Originally Posted by redcardrory

this is a junior thread go back into limerick fc thread to mouth about what your saying and p.s junior clubs own jackman not lfc there wouldn't be a senior club only for junior clubs helping out limerick:away:

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Sher you've no bother sticking your nose in at the senior section Rory, iv an interest in the junior game around town and attend quite a few games any chance I get and if iv something to say about it ill say it here, problem?

Now whats the reaction to the Star newspapers dedicated junior pullout today describing Fairview as ''the Dublin side'' when reporting the View/Regional game? anyone else see it?

dont agree, at this stage of the competition there should have been out of town refs, thought the ref had a poor game, out of his depth, couldn't disagree with the sending off but ruined the game as a contest.

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Originally Posted by putthemunder

dont agree, at this stage of the competition there should have been out of town refs, thought the ref had a poor game, out of his depth, couldn't disagree with the sending off but ruined the game as a contest.

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agree their should be out of town officials,but the official concerned was hardly out of his depth,was obviously indecisive regarding the sending off,however given he was a long way off incident through no fault of his own,it was understandable,the fact the linesman helped him showed good teamwork on their behalf.

Lads, keep it on topic or I've no doubt the thread will be closed.

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Originally Posted by da bishop

agree their should be out of town officials,but the official concerned was hardly out of his depth,was obviously indecisive regarding the sending off,however given he was a long way off incident through no fault of his own,it was understandable,the fact the linesman helped him showed good teamwork on their behalf.

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I think mr kiely struggled a bit to be honest. He gave the free, was not even going to book the keeper (should not have needed assistance for that), let fairview position the ball and a few seconds later the linesman got involved. The mr kiely went in a gave the red. He then proceeded to get the free taken untill regional went balistic to make a sub to get a keeper in goals. People around me were laughing at the ref.
Was not sure about the sending off as i believed the view player knocked the ball away and jj did not move (is he supposed to get out of the way of the player???), think they ball was knoecked out of play also and therefore he did not stop a goal scoring chance...

but that is history.....

Gave them 5 euro at the door and they were happy to take it,otherwise i i woulda watched it up by the buses

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Originally Posted by joeSoap

A replay here is the only sensible conclusion. Pike have played an illegal player-plain and simple. The reason they played him is that their local governing body, the LDMC, mis-informed them as to the status of this player or players. Therefore Pike were unaware of the situation as a result of this mis-information and it should be pointed out here that the LDMC are representatives of the FAI in the area. Pike had no reason to question the judgement of the LDMC (who have admitted responsibility)and picked their players according to what they were informed the rules were. Saint Michaels objection is valid, but not water tight legally and if this matter is not resolved the way the FAI ruled (ie a replay) then it will get ugly and go to arbitration. If this happens, there's not a court in the land that will rule against Pike. If I were Michaels manager I would grab the replay chance with both arms while it is still on the table.

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How could you say this? Have you some kinda of doctorate in admin law? It is nowhere the foregone conclusion you make it out to be if this case does drag on into arbitration. That's tantamount to saying Pike are pleading ignorance (thinking they had a properly registered player and took their league's word for it) and this ignorance not being a defence in the eyes of the law.