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So, wild speculation from a fairly questionable blog then.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
No disrespect, but I've already asked for proper sourcing of any lists on here. And a blog that's littered with poor grammar and spelling, and no backed up sources of their own, just isn't that.
It's getting really frustrating having to repeat the same thing over and over again.
I don't think it is wild speculation regarding the Dublin clubs, as they supposedly informed the Leinster Senior League.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Anything that "supposedly" happened is pretty much the definition of wild speculation to be honest.
Like everything in Ireland, any potential expansion to LOI / development of non-current LOI clubs is going to be seriously hampered by facilities - the lack there of, and the lack of capital/will to provide them.
Unless the infrastructure is grandfathered in from another era - everything is seriously stuck in the country, and that is not just about football. At best, you might get a facility way outside of where people actually live and socialise, which generates its own problems regarding transport and keeping people engaged.
The price of land plus the complete lack of and distrust of urban planning is putting a heavy strain on grassroots football. The absence of pitches (and other social amenities) is crippling in some areas. I know for Drogheda, there are far more established soccer clubs in the countryside around the town, than actually inside it.
Well its not 'wild speculation'.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
There is a reason why those three clubs were named, and only them, was the LSL have been informed, and there was a meeting to discuss rules around player eligibility in LSL and LOI.
That is a lot of people getting involved, so leaks happen, people talk.
It is not just taken out of thin air.
It could be because other LSL clubs were interested, but these names were picked because they seem most likely (Lucan are spending big bucks, St. Francis applied recently to join the 1st, Home Farm also have a LOI history (although personally I didnt hear of a link up with DCU).
Everything is very behind the scenes with this process, so rumours and unconfirmed reports are everywhere - but this is as backed up as there is in comparison to everything else.
https://www.mayonews.ie/news/soccer/...ny-oneill.html
I was expecting an announcement yesterday. Tomorrow's the last day of November. Maybe on Monday we'll all be put out of our misery!
Did that happen though? None of this is the "supposedly" that was in your original post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
No disrespect but likely is likely. For anyone who has followed the rise and fall of the A Championship, the establishing of the youth leagues and the progression of a club to the First Division - the noises, pattern and bits of information around certain clubs seems consistent with clubs who are likely to join.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
No disrespect, but speculation is speculation. You've given nothing whatsoever to actually back up that view, or others on the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
So it's speculation then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
Gotcha.
While you might think so highly of me that I am a journalist, unfortunately, I am not.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
This is a Internet football forum - you should be prepared to handle information from informal sources and be happy to hear the general chatter that is happening around the place.
I am not apart of the board of the LSL so I dont have the minutes of a meeting on hand, rather I have heard from multiple lads that such things were discussed in relation to the new tier in LOI.
It could all be coming from a single erroneous source and be a case of Chinese whispers - so I am happy to qualify it.
But, its is a far more pointed discussion than the "wild speculation" that has been happening, and some people might find that kind of information interesting/enlightening.
Ah lad - save yourself the hassle; Dont read forums and just wait for the official announcements then.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
Honestly Stu and Nigel, calling on lads to cut out wild wishlists is fine. Shooting down informal sources and opinions from experiences is excessive.
Agreed this is a football forum not a dicatorship! Think Donald Trump has ruined too many ppl here!Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Make Foot Great Again
The point is it's continuous speculative nonsense from the same two posters at this stage and it's tiresome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
To be fair to the original poster, he started this thread to list possible teams. Those looking for concrete lists are trolling his thread. Honestly, it is tiresome at this stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
Yeah sure what harm is it doing posting some teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
I actually enjoy hearing about an obscure team, some that I never heard of before. Seeing what their teams are, their infrastructure, their future plans. Its nice to see what the grassroots are doing around the country.
There's no problem with discussion. There's no issues with anyone discussing what they'd like to see. I like to hear actual news of a random application too. I also like to hear about junior or intermediate sides who have an interest, are developing stadia or facilities, and the general progression of grassroots sides. I'm involved in grassroots football myself, and take great pride in seeing development of club facilities at the bottom rung of football in the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by redobit
The issue I'm having, is the same list of 'possible teams' being posted over and over again. It's not adding anything whatsoever to the discussion. Anyone looking to see any discussion, news, or otherwise on the topic, are repeatedly being met with the same list of teams and I'm tired of it.
If people want to see the same list over and over again, then they can open up the previous posts on it.
What I like about this thread is the enthusiasm from outside traditional LoI areas. But I agree the enthusiasm has morphed in to obsessive posting the same info. We can all beat the drum sometimes but I quit opening the thread except on an occasion and I havent missed a whole lot. I think thats te risk of flogging a thread, people start to ignore the topic. It will happen in time that all will be revealed. I doubt it will be foot.ie scoop. Now if it were called a 3rd tier rumours thread its a different thing again. There are a few nuggets of info in here like Ballymun Grassgate. In tribute to the repetative nature of things, COUNTY models should not be allowed, certainly any more than whats already slipped through the cracks. we are not GAA lite!!!
Agree. Plus it makes it hard to keep tabs on who *actually* is in the running for a space in the new third tier, with all the random speculation and sh!!t about clubs which have probably never even been in the mix, and in some cases haven't even sought membership.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
We may as well have a separate thread for fantasy/dream lists, as this isn't what this one is supposed to be about.