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Duff has never been and never will be a striker, been tried and failed too many times in the past. I take your point about in the past that it hurt our midfield too much, but Im a big big fan still of Duffer and I just think that he just doesnt have the strikers goal scoring instintQuote:
Originally Posted by Ciaran
You, my good sir, have a very short memory... has been tried and has not worked so why would you think that Duff, who is a shadow of the player he was in '02, would be the solution to partnering Robbie? If you're talking about putting a midfielder pushing up I'd sooner have Ireland playing just behind him...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciaran
Well, weight and strength are not always the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
When you look at him he doesn't look that strong, but if you watch any of Reading's games, he's throwing what he does have about, and looks a wiry lad.
He's got aggression and is strong for his age.
Again, not what I think we need up front if we're to get the best of Robbie.
I want to see Alan Lee given at least one full 90 minute run out alongside Robbie.
At this stage I'd even settle with a 45 minute run out.
Honestly don't think Lee will get that though.
Keane nearly did it again with the creeping up behind the keeper. Playing well again.
Robbie Keane is a super player, shows it week in week out in the Premiership.The stick he gets from Irish fans goes over the top too often. I honestly believe his biggest problem when playing for us is that he tries too hard. In the last few years I dont think we have had a strong enough manager tell Robbie to concentrate on the last third of the pitch and not to be back in his own half looking for the ball.Im very excited at the prospect of Robbie working with Trapattoni and hopefully seeing his premiership form transfered to international football.
I'm no fan of Spurs but I could watch Keane and Berbatov every day of the week. Best partnership in the PL IMO. If Spurs get a new GK, a world class CB to play alongside Woodgate and a new MF then they might be going places!!!
this story seems to be gathering momentum - RUMOURS has it Benitez is very eager to land Robbie keane
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ague.liverpool
If this move were to happen - what would ye make of it?
Good for the republic of ireland? good for keane and his development?
or
should he stay at spurs where he seems settled and adored by the spurs faithful?
In terms of the irish team and the affect his Proposed move could have on the ireland captain - what do ye think?
"........now hopes similar tactics will lure the 27-year-old Keane to Liverpool, the club he supported as a boy and who can offer Champions League footbal"
What's quoted above could be significant and be enough to interest Keane.
He's well settled in London though and Arsenal are rumoured to be interested also.............................
Not sure if it would be good for Ireland or not, he would get some CL football which is a plus but would he be a starter or just be a rotation player? Also Liverpool have a reputation for having a ****ty attitude towards internationals and you could see Keane pulling out of more games or even retiring from international prematurely like Finnan
Really. Bent is better than Kuyt? I know they are not exactly comparable but Kuyt is a strong part of a good Dutch team, Bent cannot get close to an English team light on strikers. Ironically Crouch is one of the people keeping him out. And finally, Voronin has not set the world alight at Liverpool (mostly not enough starts) but he has in the past shown himself to be a strong striker. I think I'd have all 3 ahead of Bent who is the latest in a long line of one season wonders in England (Beattie, Andy Johnson and sadly Kevin Doyle included).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciaran
By the way the more realistic story is £20m including Crouch, I guess that Crouch plus 10 million-ish and this seems expensive to me. If I took my Ireland hat off I wonder if Keane is just another 7 out of ten player for Liverpool?
By those figures, Liverpool could trade in Crouch, Kuyt and Voronin to Spurs and still have to fork out cash to sign Robbie to a contract.
It's nice that our main striker is so appreciated :)
Sounds about the exact perfect time for Robbie to go about the challenge of becoming a top ranked striker in Europe and Liverpool looks a good place to do it.
He won´t have that opportunity with Spurs in his football lifetime.
25 mill plus Crouch???? is someone having a laugh. no way he is worth that.
Grossly over exagerated figure. Can't see Robbie leaving Spurs any time soon unless Ramos doesn't fancy him.
I thought he was a Leeds fan?! He should stay put. If he goes, he'll get the odd game. Just look at Torres at the start of last season! I hope he says put. He's to good to be played in a squad rotation system. I would argue, on his day, he'd be one of the top 5 centre-forwards in the the prem playing for the home nations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfie
Yeah thats insane, Portsmouth had a 9mill bid turned down for Crouch so that makes Keane worth at leath 34mill? yeah right, I'd say he is worth about 10, 15 topsQuote:
Originally Posted by beepbeep
Yez should read the transfer rumour report.
The Guardian report says Crouch is valued between £10m and £12m and that Liverpool are prepared to make a first offer of £20m for Robbie.
Crouch plus cash.
i would argue only Rooney and Owen are ahead of him if we're talking about 'home' nation strikers. In fairness to him, whatever team he has played with (ignoring Inter) he has scored goals, he has been quite consistent for spurs despite the fact that the hasnt had the best service there in the world. He has a tendency to miss one or two chances that he should put away. But without doubt hes our best striker (and probably best ever). Despite what some here might think has a great attitude to the game as well imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by SunderlandBohs
Would pool be a good move for him, im not sure, although the more Irish players playing for the top four the better. I just dont trust Benitez, although Torres would be the only real competition for him so chances are he'd play most games. Needs a Quinn/Berbatov like player alongside him and Im not certain Torres is that???
Im going to annoy a few people but i think that keane is without a doubt one of the most overrated strikers in the prem. It crates on my nut when everyone goes around thinkin that the sun shines out of his hole!!! I will admit that he can finish his dinner, but only on a good day. I dont like the way he plays his ball and he gets by on his quick feet. I dont like him as you can gather and he defo wont fit in at liverpool and he'll be shown up as a player and left on the sidelines.
I don't think he's the best finisher in the world but as an all-round forward player I don't think you can argue with his record over the past few years in what has been an average spurs team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayk69
And the above bit in bold made me chuckle, partly because I have no idea what it means!
If there's any truth in this Keane won't turn it down. You don't turn down Liverpool to stay at Spurs. It's simple as that...
It's a strange rumour? First instinct is that if Liverpool want to catch United & Chelsea they would want to sign a better striker than Robbie Keane. But who's better, and a viable option to sign for Liverpool at this point?? And does it signal an intent to Rafa to shift focus to the premiership by signing a proven 20 goal (in all comps) striker....
I hope it is true. I think he's found his level at Spurs but I also think he would be mad to turn it down if it is true...
Spurs can have the €35 million and Voronin. :D
Keane then wins Liverpool the league on the last PL day of the season, thereby condemning Voronin and Spurs to missing 6 gilt-edged chances and a CL spot.
Money well spent. :)
"A £20m-rated deal involving Crouch "
Probably Crouch plus £8m.
I can't see how he would fit into Liverpool's team unless it was as a wide midfield player. Torres and Gerrard seem to be Benitez's preference for the front two ... as a backup for Torres maybe?
I was just looking on one of the Liverpool forums there and they all seem happy at the prospect of getting Keane on board. I'd say he'd go to them in a flash. He'd be playing CL and pushing for the EPL title. Playing alongside Torres could improve him aswell.
I think it'd be great for Ireland. The more players we have at the top clubs the better. bring it on.
Crumlin United would be happy. Im not sure what the percentage is but I think they got a good few bob from his previous moves.
They wont get a red cent.
I think he would be a perfect fit, torres+keane. Gerrard will drop deeper into midfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmet
Are Crumlin not on 5%? a cool £1m from a £20m - maybe it's less than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by stojkovic
FIFA ruling on
Keane transfer boosts junior clubs
Doubt it now? Although you never know.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
isn't that why they're signing Gareth Barry, so Gerrard won't have to drop deep?Quote:
Originally Posted by Metrostars
I can't see Robbie making it into a full strength Liverpool side. He'll get games in the Carling Cup and in the League games following big CL nights but he won't move Torres or Gerrard who he will be competing with up front. If he has a chance of making it into Liverpool's team for those bigger games it will only be as a wide midfielder in the same way that Kuyt currently does.
To be honest, if he's guaranteed first team football by Ramos at Spurs, he should stay put. I cant see him feature regulary with Liverpool, as benitez seems certain to start gerrard just off torres, and thats why he is so persistent in Garreth Barry to offer balance in the middle. Besides Kuyt's game is the exact seem as Keane, playing off a main striker dropping deep, and he had a good tournament, and is imo underated at liverpool.
Robbie Should stay put
I can't really work it out from the article if Eoin Hand is referring to that the training fee is just payable once on all future transfers from FAI to FAQuote:
Originally Posted by Green_Hoop
or that it is payable on all future RK transfers
'The significant point we made to FIFA was that Keane had moved out of the jurisdiction of the FAI and because of that all subsequent transfers were governed by the new regulations'
'Spurs should have deducted five per cent of the fee payable to Leeds and that is what will happen in future transfers'.
I am sure that Crumlin will know if a payment is due:)
i think he would get his fair amount of games myselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Emmet
i think he should go champs league football could bring him up that step
Crumlin United don't deal in the Queen's banknote, so when the earlier quoted amount is converted, they would make almost €2 million, for Ireland's record-breaking goalscorer. They are entitled to payments from any Rob transfer.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
You don't pay €30 million for a player to keep him on the bench. Gerrard will play in midfield, while Keane will partner Torres upfront as the main strike force.
Tottenham wont let him go simple as that. And there's nothing Keane can do about it (he signed a 5 year contract last summer). And Crouch doesnt want to go from sitting on the bench at Liverpool to sitting on the bench at spurs , when he can get first team football at portsmouth. The transfer has no legs.
Unlike Crouchy. Keano is adored in north London, he'll surely stay there.that said, Ramos substitued him many times over Berbatov so who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by eekers
If there is any real truth to this transfer then he will go because of this simple reason: 'Robbie wants medals'.
That was more than evident in his celebrations recently after winning the league Cup. Liverpool will get you medals and spurs wont.
I remember in Robbie Fowlers book that he got a text of a teammate asking would he like to join Liverpool (when Houllier was there), the teammate sent it to the wrong Robbie! on his phone and Robbie Keane actually said no but i think he was with Leeds at the time and they were doing well then.