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07/08/2009, 12:55 PM
strangeirish

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Originally Posted by baddebt

at least real romanian woman are hot , so Pat's fans should enjoy the trip

They have a better chance of beating Steaua:D
07/08/2009, 12:57 PM
irishultra

as the european dream comes closer once again, im starting to think that even with european qualification it will have very little impact on the masses. as has been said on another thread more people went to see some liverpool poxy z team against some pub team than went to see the champions of ireland vs champions of austria.
07/08/2009, 12:58 PM
TheBoss

It is not easiest nor not the hardest but they still have to perform at their best to beat them and to do it again, maybe too much for the players.
07/08/2009, 12:59 PM
Fester

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Originally Posted by Dodge

100% on the behind closed doors

75% sure that the legs will be switched (home leg first) as Dinamo Bucharest are due to play the same night

Dodge match could be switched to a Tuesday night instead
07/08/2009, 1:00 PM
irishultra

it be great if it clashed with arsenal vs celtic :D please god, make rte show the match
07/08/2009, 1:02 PM
baddebt

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Originally Posted by irishultra

as the european dream comes closer once again, im starting to think that even with european qualification it will have very little impact on the masses. as has been said on another thread more people went to see some liverpool poxy z team against some pub team than went to see the champions of ireland vs champions of austria.

totally agree, just look at the difference in Attandance between Pats at home to Kryla , and then Pats at home to Dundalk just 3 days later
07/08/2009, 1:04 PM
HarpoJoyce

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Originally Posted by Fester

Dodge match could be switched to a Tuesday night instead

Throw in Vaslui, up the road, playing AEK Athens and mention specialist trained elite forces from the capital needed for that game and the permutations just grow and grow.

Good luck with it anyway.
07/08/2009, 1:05 PM
irishultra

think about it, how many fans of other loi clubs go to these matches? i reckon most of the added fans were fans from other loi clubs.
07/08/2009, 1:08 PM
Duggie

if the ties have to be switched do pats have to agree with the home leg been first ? is it not up to steau to make other arrangments with fifa or is it just a case of switching the order ?
07/08/2009, 1:10 PM
baddebt

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Originally Posted by irishultra

think about it, how many fans of other loi clubs go to these matches? i reckon most of the added fans were fans from other loi clubs.

that was very true , I was at Dalyer for the Salzburg match along with another few Dfc fans.

Its done to lack of advertising..............which falls on the shoulders of the FAI-WASTERS
07/08/2009, 1:11 PM
CuanaD

UEFA Club Rankings

This is the current UEFA Club Rankings, including season 2008-09.

Last update: May 27, 2009
Rank Team Points
30 of England - Newcastle 54.899
31 of the Netherlands - Ajax 54.825
32 of Romania - Steaua Bucureşti 53.781
33 of Spain - Espanyol 52.853
34 of Greece - Olympiacos 52.632
35 of Turkey - Fenerbah�e 52.445
36 of Germany - Bayer Leverkusen 51.339
37 of Switzerland - Basel 51.050
38 of England - Middlesbrough 48.899
Taken from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Steaua_Bucure%C5%9Fti

Up to date on Bert's site has Pat's ranked 199th!
199 St. Patrick's Athletic Irl 4.408
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/...trank2010.html
07/08/2009, 1:13 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by baddebt

Its done to lack of advertising..............which falls on the shoulders of the FAI-WASTERS

Advertising isn't the responsibility of the clubs, no?
07/08/2009, 1:17 PM
HarpoJoyce

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Originally Posted by Duggie

if the ties have to be switched do pats have to agree with the home leg been first ? is it not up to steau to make other arrangments with fifa or is it just a case of switching the order ?

Its usually the competition gets priority and then ( this case) the co-efficients of the individual club(s) (eh start of the season UEFA co-efficient, no made-up stuff half-way through the tournament).
The higher ranking team may call the shots especially if they fill a second leg home tie is to their advantage.

But Bucharest is a city filled choc-full of league teams so they are used to big domestic matches been played within few days of each other.
07/08/2009, 1:19 PM
baddebt

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Advertising isn't the responsibility of the clubs, no?

I think its the FAI's responsibility to Advertise and Big up the League Of ireland try and get some major sponsors behind the league .
Just like the GAA have done.
They have Guiness/Vodafone etc all bigging up the All-Ireland championships every year.

Ever see an Ad on TV promoting the league of Ireland ?
07/08/2009, 1:20 PM
Duggie

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce

Its usually the competition gets priority and then ( this case) the co-efficients of the individual club(s) (eh start of the season UEFA co-efficient, no made-up stuff half-way through the tournament).
The higher ranking team may call the shots especially if they fill a second leg home tie is to their advantage.

But Bucharest is a city filled choc-full of league teams so they are used to big domestic matches been played within few days of each other.

right, suppose it dosent really matter which is first as long as you get a good result to keep the 2nd leg alive.
07/08/2009, 1:24 PM
Mr A

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Originally Posted by baddebt

I think its the FAI's responsibility to Advertise and Big up the League Of ireland try and get some major sponsors behind the league .
Just like the GAA have done.
They have Guiness/Vodafone etc all bigging up the All-Ireland championships every year.

Ever see an Ad on TV promoting the league of Ireland ?

No but I've seen MNS on weekly which cost the FAI 4 million euro. And I've seen the CPOs which is one of the FAI's best initiatives.

Sure more could be done, but frankly the clubs themselves are more useless than the FAI on this front by a country mile.
07/08/2009, 1:26 PM
christo

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Originally Posted by Mr A

No but I've seen MNS on weekly which cost the FAI 4 million euro.

Really!!!:confused:
07/08/2009, 1:29 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by christo

Really!!!:confused:

Yes. They had to knock something like that figure off the national team highlights rights to get MNS on prime time.
07/08/2009, 1:32 PM
baddebt

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Originally Posted by Mr A

No but I've seen MNS on weekly which cost the FAI 4 million euro. And I've seen the CPOs which is one of the FAI's best initiatives.

Sure more could be done, but frankly the clubs themselves are more useless than the FAI on this front by a country mile.

but those people who do not follow the LOI , probably have never even heard of MNS.
For me More Advertising and more Live Matches are the way to go.
Have 4 games on a Friday Night , and the live game on the Sunday evening....that way you do not impact on the anyone's attandances.
its a tough thing to do.....................just to many plastics in the country not willing to give the league a chance
07/08/2009, 1:33 PM
Raheny Red

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Originally Posted by Mr A

Does that mean no Pats fans can attend the away leg? real bummer for them, effectively being punished for their opposition's offences.

3 fans 0 fans?! it's all the same really.
07/08/2009, 1:36 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by baddebt

but those people who do not follow the LOI , probably have never even heard of MNS.
For me More Advertising and more Live Matches are the way to go.

So you reckon that, to compensate for people not having seen the LoI highlights show on TV, we should have more TV coverage? How will people know to watch games on TV if they don't know to watch highlights on TV?
07/08/2009, 1:37 PM
marinobohs

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Originally Posted by Mr A

No but I've seen MNS on weekly which cost the FAI 4 million euro. And I've seen the CPOs which is one of the FAI's best initiatives.

Sure more could be done, but frankly the clubs themselves are more useless than the FAI on this front by a country mile.

While it is the responsibility of the FAI to "big up" the League (and to be fair they have improved on this) it is down to clubs to highlight individual matches. Some clubs do this very well Sham Rovers (through gritted teeth :)) have in my opinion been far and away the best at promoting games/Tallaght etc. Far too many clubs appear to wait for media coverage and consequentially it does not happen.
Anyway back to thread, and best of luck to Pats - good city to visit so hope for fans that arrangements (dates) are agreed soon. Tough draw but
should get full house at home (wherever it is played) hopefully to see another great result for Irish football
07/08/2009, 1:42 PM
baddebt

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

So you reckon that, to compensate for people not having seen the LoI highlights show on TV, we should have more TV coverage? How will people know to watch games on TV if they don't know to watch highlights on TV?

well you would obviously have to advertise the matches , and advertise the MNS show ( an ad during the 6pm news every evening might help).
Its only an idea , i am not an advertising Guru;)
07/08/2009, 2:14 PM
MariborKev

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Originally Posted by baddebt

i am not an advertising Guru;)

Really? From some of the insights you provided earlier I got all excited and thought Lord Saatchi had joined foot.ie
07/08/2009, 2:35 PM
seand

Forgive me if this has been covered in the previous 1,700 (!!!) posts in this thread, but were any Pats fans lucky enough to make it to Samara?
07/08/2009, 2:45 PM
Duggie

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Originally Posted by seand

Forgive me if this has been covered in the previous 1,700 (!!!) posts in this thread, but were any Pats fans lucky enough to make it to Samara?

3 of them. were in the star today. said they were treated very well which was nice of the ruski's.
07/08/2009, 2:49 PM
pineapple stu

Mentioned elsewhere that 3 went with the club, and another 15 or so made their own way.
07/08/2009, 3:15 PM
bigmac

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Originally Posted by baddebt

I think its the FAI's responsibility to Advertise and Big up the League Of ireland try and get some major sponsors behind the league .
Just like the GAA have done.
They have Guiness/Vodafone etc all bigging up the All-Ireland championships every year.

Ever see an Ad on TV promoting the league of Ireland ?

In fairness to the FAI, the GAA themselves are pretty rubbish at "bigging up" games - the Vodafone and Guinness advertising is all at the behest of those companies trying to maximise their own returns. Look at the championship attendences prior to the big guns coming on board and they're nothing like present figures. For an example of the GAA on their own, look at what they usually do for the league (half full Parnell Park) versus what they could do for the league (oneTyrone-Dublin game under lights in a sold out Croke Park). If the FAI had a sponsor prepared to seriously back the league, and not just be forced into it as a condition of getting on the international bandwagon, it would be much more likely to see a strong coherent campaign.
07/08/2009, 3:24 PM
superfrank

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Originally Posted by Jofspring

Think roma played behind closed doors too and it was televised. Not sure if was Roma tho. It was because the ref Frisk got hit with a coin coming off at half time.

I remember watching Real Madrid play Roma at the Olimpico that season. It was on the telly somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Mr A

Does that mean no Pats fans can attend the away leg?

For the game above, there were cheers when Real scored. They had a shot of a small group of Real fans, don't know if they were just club officials or other fans.
07/08/2009, 4:43 PM
the 12 th man

This might be a help to St Pats http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/...sathletic.html
07/08/2009, 4:48 PM
baddebt

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Originally Posted by the 12 th man

This might be a help to St Pats http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/...sathletic.html

Gives Pats a little more hope for some sort of away result 1--1 would be nice, 0--1 would be even better
07/08/2009, 4:50 PM
brendy_�ire

Pat's even got a quick mention on Cool FM in Belfast. Strange really, considering they never really mention ourselves.
07/08/2009, 4:55 PM
the 12 th man

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Originally Posted by baddebt

Gives Pats a little more hope for some sort of away result 1--1 would be nice, 0--1 would be even better

The "atmosphere" in the ground could easily upset the home team.:cool:
07/08/2009, 5:01 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by baddebt

Its done to lack of advertising..............which falls on the shoulders of the FAI-WASTERS

Why should the FAI do the advertising for any individual club ? :confused:

Seriously -what's with the welfare mentality ? Surely club's should be advertising their big games for themselves.
07/08/2009, 5:03 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by John83

Yes. They had to knock something like that figure off the national team highlights rights to get MNS on prime time.

Allegedly....
07/08/2009, 5:03 PM
paul_oshea

Exactly too many people on forums steve like to point the finger at someone else and expect things to be done for them. IF you want to change something get off your backside and start doing something about it.
07/08/2009, 5:14 PM
MariborKev

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Allegedly....

As much as they are maligned, it would be a fairly big claim to make publicly if it wasn't true.
07/08/2009, 5:19 PM
Dodge

BTW Steaua are appealing their stadium ban and their case being heard at the moment.

Dates etc can't be confirmed until then
07/08/2009, 5:30 PM
don ramo

if steau get the ban both games can be played the same night, sure how many cops do ya need to police and empty stadium:D
07/08/2009, 7:46 PM
OneRedArmy

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Allegedly....

It was referred to more than once to a room of about 40 LoI fans by Fran Gavin. RTE were fairly blunt about not wanting to show MNS by all accounts.

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