If they'd never checked and it turned out that he had an Irish connection the FAI would've been battered. They can't win when it comes to this stuff.
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If they'd never checked and it turned out that he had an Irish connection the FAI would've been battered. They can't win when it comes to this stuff.
Two more goals today for Scott Hogan. Can we put this into context? His career has primarily been at non-league sides having been released by Rochdale at 18. He makes it back to Rochdale 3 years later for 2013/14 and bangs in 17 goals to earn a jump up two divisions. He had two bad knee injuries almost immediately so has missed almost a season and a half. So, on the back of a career that has consisted of non-league and league two goals and brutal injuries the man has finished this season with 7 league goals in 5 starts (2 substitute appearances) in the Championship with Brentford (mostly without their main playmaker).
This is quite a story and the next chapter might consist of an Ireland jersey. Not sure how the media here hasn't picked up on him yet.
EDIT: Interesting to note also that two of his non-league clubs were Halifax Town and Stocksbridge Park Steels. You'll never guess who played for them too..
Double EDIT: The media have spotted it too, as well as Keano?: http://www.balls.ie/football/roy-kea...t-hogan/332680
This article is quoted in that Balls.ie article: http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport...-over-11290878
Seems 3 of his 4 grandparents are Irish so he definitely qualifies. Understandably, has ignored all international talk because I'm sure he's been focusing on getting himself established at club level after a torrid time with injuries. I bet we'll see him in the next qualifying campaign.
He's currently been talked about on a few threads. Mods should pull those posts into one for him.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Agreed too.
It's on YBIG that RK watched him for Brentford today.
re: the following: "the last thing I’m thinking of is who I’m going to represent internationally. It’s getting ahead of myself.”
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Scott Hogan scores again for Brentford. Shame he sounds about as committed to playing for Ireland as Stephen Ireland. #COYBIG
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I've heard the FAI aren't convinced he is committed by Keane going along to watch him suggests they'll give it a go again.
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I get that he probably didn't want to get ahead of himself but quotes other day + pulling out of u21s aren't very encouraging
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yeah he's definitely worth another try but he's a 24-year-old who has played 8 Championship games. Should be jumping at it.
It's hard to know with a player who doesn't have much history with national teams, but it's plausible he is just focused on getting a few club games together and having a good pre-season. Little rumours like the FAI aren't convinced he's committed do tend to be true when journalists are saying them though.
In fairness though TOWK...the lad has spent the last 18 months of his young career absent due to injury. We don't know what is or isn't going on in his head and it may have absolutely nothing to do with a lack of commitment to playing for Ireland. He probably wants to focus on establishing his career at a decent level, keep free from injury for a bit and not add anything that might, in his mind, jeopardise that. I wouldn't necessarily say he is not keen on playing for Ireland per se, more so that he is just not sure whether that is the best thing for him right now.
Agree totallyQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
His goals with Rochdale: https://youtu.be/6uFOCytCJK4
Brace against Fulham: https://youtu.be/zNMdpcAFkrw
Have to say he looks good. Quick, some really good finishes and surprisingly good with his head. Kind of reminds me a bit of Aldridge.
His quotes are slightly ambiguous, I think and it was his manager that pulled him from the under 21's. As I've stated, prior to this run of games his career has consisted of career-threatening injury, League Two and non-league. International football hasn't come into his thinking. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
EDIT: His quotes are very ambiguous. Fair enough if O'Riordan has heard otherwise but I'm not sure how people can be so bothered to read negatively into "the last thing I’m thinking of is who I’m going to represent internationally. It’s getting ahead of myself.” It is getting ahead of himself. The man had a relapse on his knee injury once. He's probably fearful of another. Not whether Roy Keane likes him.
On the fact that Roy Keane went to watch him, I hope he spoke to him at some point: https://twitter.com/ScottHogan92/sta...32236745285632
*Tweet was two years old.
He hasn't commented on Keane watching him.
Just saying.. I thought it was a recent tweet until I seen the timestamp.
Jaysus, that reads like RMK was whispering sweet dirty nothings in young Hogans ear while they were 'dancing'.
Anyway, do ye remember Paul Green saying once when asked about his playing for Ireland and why he didn't declare earlier etc, that as a lower league player it just never entered his head, that his focus was on getting established, becoming a pro player, getting contracts, and International ball was daydreaming territory - (or words to that effect) - now might Scott Hogan not be of a similar mindset presently ? He is far from established, and an injury recurrence from the scrapheap, contract wise.
So just as relevant as you referencing his nan, glad we cleared that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
I considered that, but then he didn't say "I'm not thinking of International football at the moment", he said "I'm not thinking of who I'm going to represent Internationally at the moment".
He may also not want to make a decision on his Intl future because of his recent injury problems, but he also said he wishes the season wasn't ending so he could continue playing.
Then there is ominous quotes from Neil O'Riordan on Twitter, and I imagine he has a greater idea of what the situation is than I or anyone here.
And as relevant as what Intl jersey his nephew wears.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe_denilson
Okay. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
I didn't say it was recent but when someone refers to someone as being one of their 'all time heroes' I think that status does tend to last the test of time.
Obviously, it's your prerogative to construe tweets, the player's comments and comments of journalists whatever way suits you but I have no interest in posting something I think is measured or light-hearted to see you footnoting my posts with an asterisk. I can footnote my own posts.
Okay.
Exactly, it's either all relevant or all irrelevant, just be consistent.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Scott Hogan couldn't say no to Roy Keane :
“Then there is the Ireland thing, which again is a surprise. Roy Keane was at Huddersfield on Saturday apparently and if Roy Keane rang me up, I couldn’t say no to Roy Keane. He is one of my heroes."
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...-a7024466.html
"Come and Get Me"
Quite proud of this post now!Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
He states that the Ireland stuff is a surprise. I think that puts his previous quotes into some context because international football was the further thing from his mind.
Good article. Good character. Bring him on.
A dirty little flirt young Hogan is shaping up to be is right, SkStu.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Young and promising, just what we need, as it will be interesting to see who retires after the Euros. I always hope that it is Martin who gets to make telephone calls to aspiring players as Roy's social skills are not that endearing!
Given, O'Shea, Whelan, Hoolahan, Walters, Keane, Forde, Doyle. Could it be as many as that do you reckon ?Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
Whelan will play on until he's on his last legs, I'd say. Some people would say he never had any to begin with, but I always predicted he would one day be down to his final pair. Walters, too, I think will reckon he has another campaign in him. Robbie might unofficially retire and just stop getting picked, and Doyle I reckon will call it a day. Given, O'Shea and Hoolahan certainly, I think.
Of all the above mentioned players, I would love to see Walters and Hoolahan play on.
I'd slightly revise my earlier opinion that Hoolahan will certainly retire. His game is less dependent on athleticism and he doesn't appear to have aged at all since he was about 16.
Didn't Walters squeeze Stoke for a two and a half year new deal late last year when the club initially offered a year, (I think) could international ball have been a concession in that maybe ? I don't know
That's a good point, I didn't think of that. They still don't play him every game though, so maybe they wouldn't be opposed to him playing internationals. Hughes, as an ex-international manager, doesn't seem as opposed to international football as many coaches.
Interesting that he mentions Keane as possibly being significant in his willingness to accept a call-up. I'd like to think he'd be keen regardless, but does it demonstrate that personalities can play an important role when it comes to recruitment?Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
In Roy's case, the possibility of intimidation, testicle removal or a beating might certainly play a part!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I suppose I should have clarified I was sort of referring back to talk of Kevin Kilbane (or even Lee Carsley) assisting the FAI with recruitment. I know the FAI turned both down and some dismissed the notion that they'd have been of any assistance, but personality and reputation might be crucial in securing on-the-fencers. That said, it seems Roy Keane is performing that sort of role for the FAI now anyway, judging by Hogan's words.
Kilbane and Carsley are nobodies really though aren't they, in terms of football heroes/personalities? I mean that in the best possible way of course. Hardly comparable to Roy Keane coming looking for you anyway.
I think it may be just Given, O'Shea and Keane. All three have given so much but have little else to offer I would think at this stage. As much as I've never been a massive fan, I'd see no reason for Whelan to retire, his career has been on an upward trajectory if anything. That applies to Walters even more so, certainly his international career. There's no way either would even consider it anyway I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
Forde and/or Doyle may or may not really. Both are still capable of doing a job in a certain situation if needed. I don't think either should retire a such, unless they just want to avoid the mental torment of not knowing whether they'll be included in squads or not. Neither are key to our future plans obviously, but with the presumably imminent retirements of Given and Keane, both could be useful senior figures to have around the place, as well as adequate replacements if necessary.
I'll be expecting An Taoiseach to sanction an official day of mourning if Wessi hangs up his international boots.
Wouldn't have any problem with him, or any other 'wildcard' being called up to an expanded squad for Netherlands or at least the training before. We lack goals, McGoldrick, Murphy, Doyle, none of whom appear capable of scoring at international level, or in Doyle's case, any more.
Just watching Bayern v Hannover on telly and the commentator comments made me rewind and make sure I wasn't hearing things.
I don't think we have ever talked about Manuel Schmiedebach for Hannover96. According to the commentator he was "born in Berlin to an Irish father, a mother born in Colombia, raised in Venezuela with grandparents from Morocco."
He is 27, defensive midfielder and has played about 200 games for Hannover since his move from Hertha in 2009. Have absolutely no idea how good he is but he has to be on the plane! :)
Anyone know anything more about this link or his ability?
http://foot.ie/threads/156387Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu