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Dizzy's cousin?
Stop speaking in riddles.
He is on about the jazz guy.did it make him better that he was black CD?
Think is when you bet small you never really now how you are doing as you tend to forget your losing bets.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
It's only when you bet big you realise how bad you are at it.
There was a lad at my school who nearly lost his mothers house gambling, I don't want to go down that
road, once you start chasing loses you are on the road to ruin.
Even now with Liverpool 6-1 on I can see them slipping up, they need to win their next
3 as I don't see Man City dropping points. (Well they need 2 wins and a draw).
They have to play Palace too, who are second placed team on form and they have
stopped Everton and Chelsea in their tracks.
No peace of mind for the inveterate gambler, who's also paranoid.
Buy the way Coleman got the MoM award so well done Seamus.
He did also have a rather wayward shot I seem to remember, but
the less said about that the better!
Would have been a cracker if it had gone it, but it was closer to out of the
stadium! :nonchalance:
betting with pence is hardly gambling, fun maybe, but not gambling:p
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30203382.html
Warning to Coleman: Grass may not be greener at Old Trafford.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...team-of-season
The former Sligo Rovers right-back has blossomed under Roberto Martínez's management at Everton and certainly would not look out of place on the Champions League stage next season. The 25-year-old from Killybegs in County Donegal who grew up with Gaelic football his first love knows how to defend but attacks with style, skill and strength. Who can forget Coleman tricking his way past Arsenal's Santi Cazorla before juggling the ball out of defence. Spends countless hours at home analysing DVDs of Europe's best full-backs and such homework is helping make him one of them. If he played for a London club the hype machine would be in overdrive.
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Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
No.
If he was English or from mainland Europe (or Africa) the hype would be in overdrive.
He made Patrick Barclay's team of the season in the London Evening Standard too.
What day was that I didn't spot that.
Barclay can be annoying sometimes making total sense nxt time not at all.
He's pretty much on every team of the season I've heard, singled out for praise numerous times on MOTD, Sky Sports, etc. He's won a handful of motm awards, competed in a few goal of the month competitions, been consistently linked with a move to Man Utd, amongst others (granted the suggested transfer fee usually seems a bit low)...Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
What more recognition are we actually looking for? Ballon d'Or?
Luke shaw is going for £30 mil an unproven 18 year old, a bit like jones brought from blackburn. One swallow doesnt make a summer.
And yet coleman who is probably at the pinnacle of his career in terms of age and trajectory, is quoted as going for quite less.
He is getting these team of the season but almost as though he has been operating under the radar or a wildcard pick or of left field.
It depends on what fertilizer they use I guessQuote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Yeah, I mentioned the valuation thing, but he's getting plenty of attention/recognition. Shaw's price seems to be more to do with supply and demand in the sense that United and Chelsea both seem really keen. His age can also be viewed as a positive as £30m is peanuts if he ends up as their left back for the next 10+ years. I don't think anybody thinks he's actually worth £30m right at this moment in time.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I think Coleman has been far from under the radar but it makes sense that the English are more concerned about an English player.
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Originally Posted by DeLorean
In fairness whilst the english media do recognise he outstanding contribution and performances this season - if he was one of their own , the current prices been bandied about by the english media for seamus wud be at least doubled
But the media are probably correct. The clubs do pay a lot more for English players. I'd be shocked if Coleman and Shaw are sold for a similar price... that's nothing to do with media hype really, of which I think Coleman and Shaw have got similar recognition.
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Originally Posted by DeLorean
Your honor....i give you evidence exhibit A
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...t_20120611.jpg
I certainly feel that he's getting the attention he richly deserves. He has made most teams of the year in the British media and Carragher and Neville can't speak highly enough of him.
The English tax for players is incredible - a fairly average player like Phil Jones going for what a top Italian or French player would go for. However, I think that there is or would be a similar tax on any top Welsh, Irish (Northern also) and Scottish player breaking through. The reason we don't see it is that very few players from the other home countries are breaking through, bar McCarthy, Ramsey and Bale in recent years. The British media has this notion that the core of a great team has to be from the British isles and still clings on to the notion that the temperamental foreigner won't be able to hack it at Stoke on a wet and windy night in February.
Regarding Shaw, I think the price is absurd, but I can understand it. He's clearly already a very good player and if he continues to develop, he could solve a position for the team he joins for 10+ years.
The funny thing is he'll probably still lose out to Zabaleta for team of the season.
yesterday I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Surely not. It's even been fairly well documented that Zabaleta has been a bit below his usual high standards this season. Never know though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Perfectly placed header into the bottom corner by Coleman gives the keeper no chance and makes it 2-0.
Only problem is that it was an own goal.
Seemingly luke shaw caused seamus alot of problems
Coleman caused Shaw little trouble anyway it must be said. He was unlucky for the og. It really looked like Stones was going to header it clear but seemed to halt his desire at the last second, too late for Coleman to react after that I think. Everton weren't at it collectively today. Mirallas a big miss for them on top of the two Centre backs. McGeady did well enough when introduced again.
lol that's a shocker!!!
Looks like he forgot which box he was in.
Remarkably both goals were own goals!
Long just got in on the act!!!
He's a liability.
I refuse to believe he had a bad game until I see a Paul O'Shea post from six months ago predicting he would have a bad game
Certainly no peace of mind, not it's not paranoia, I was right Liverpool did slip upQuote:
Originally Posted by geysir
"Even now with Liverpool 6-1 on I can see them slipping up".
I think it is me though, I watched the match and when ever I do that everything seems to
go wrong for some reason. Been watching Man City too and they are winning.
Maybe is if I stop watching Palace will make a comeback?!
So you're a "cooler"?
Coleman got on the PFA team of the season :
Cech, COLEMAN, Cahill, Kompany, Shaw, Hazard, Gerrard, Toure, Lallana, Suarez, Sturridge.
Also James McCarthy made the 'subs' benchQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Possibly depending on what it means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
I am a little cooler now it looks like I may well lose my bet,
will have to rely on Everton stopping Man City and I am not too
confident of that. Could try a cover bet not to cut my loses.
Such illustrious company on that side. Speaks volumes about the progress this man has made and the level that he has been at all season. Such a level that he has been duly named the best Premier League right-back for 2013/2014.
Seamie, take a bow.
Without meaning to burst your bubble, the odds were highly stacked towards Liverpool having a slip up. The 1/6 was a measure of their chances of winning the league, not Liverpool winning the rest of their games. I heard a stat that no team in any of Europe's top leagues have ever won fourteen games on the spin in a single season, something Liverpool would have to have done. Open to correction though, I thought the likes of Real Madrid or Bayern Munich would surely have done it. Arsenal did win fourteen in a row, but it was over two seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
City are well capable of blowing it at Everton but they are playing them at a good time. Everton are likely to be without Distin and Jagielka still, as well as Mirallas, Barry and possibly even Baines. Heavy absentee list considering they are already without the likes of Pienaar, Gibson, Kone and Oviedo. City could have Silva back and with Aguero and Toure now having games under their belt they would be at more or less full strength for once, with the possible exception of Nastasic.
How did Kompany get on the team of the season? That's a real 'living off reputation' selection. I remember hearing another stat around Christmas that City had a better defensive record without him. Off the top of my head too he had some real howlers... his sliced o.g. at Fulham, red card at Hull and potentially fatal assist for Coutinho at Anfield. Even against Barcelona, it was Kompany's failure to keep the offside line that got Demichelis into trouble when he was sent off for bringing down Messi. It's more fashionable to make Demichelis the fall guy though.
I'd have had Azpilicueta over Shaw and Marshall or De Gea over Cech also.
I don't think there was much of a bubble to burst, Liverpool winning the league andQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
they winning their remaining gains pretty much amounted to the same thing,
well almost. I was pretty much assuming Man City would win all theirs.
Of course that might not happen either, but I just thought the 6-1 on or whatever
made it look like too much of a formality.
When a team has a winning run they can often look invincible at least until they get
beat that is, when they look suddenly look very fallible.
The return of Toure is what worries me most but I not really an expert on the Man City
team, or indeed any team lol.
Any how a few thing in my favour, City may see the winning post and get hit by nerves.
Also I assume McCarthy is playing, he was absent when Everton lost to Palace.
Also a draw is enough for to scupper Man City.
Will just have to wait and see, I want to watch the match but I usually bring bad luck to
the team I want to win!
There's a massive difference. Liverpool were 1/6 to win the league, but were only something like 7/10 to beat Chelsea. They'll probably be something like 2/5 to beat Palace and 1/4 to beat Newcastle, depending on the circumstances. Therefore if you backed Liverpool to win those three games I think it works out at about 2/1... which is obviously seen as far less of a formality than the 1/6 you were offered for Liverpool winning the title. Added to the fact thay they had already won eleven on the spin and were aiming to do what was never done before, well it just made it seem all the more unlikely. Despite that, they could still very easily win the league, hence Paddy Power and co playing it safe with their stingy odds of 1/6 before the Chelsea game.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
OK I take you point about there being a difference between winning all three game and winning the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
However... you seem to have made the case for me!!
If there were 2-1 to win all those 3 games then they should have been about 2-1 to win the league because the two amount to
the very same thing.
OK maybe I am getting rather confused with all the odds, but what I am saying is I would never have put £5 on Liverpool to
win the league in order to get just £1 back That seemed a very poor return, putting £2 on to get £1 back or even £3 to get £1
back seemed more realistic, but £5? That seemed ridiculous.
I think what happened is a lot of people thought they were unbeatable and just piled the money on pushing the odds to
a ridiculous level. I agree with you about hem having won eleven on the spin being nearly a record, which was likely to end
however unfortunately some people don't see it like that, they just see the 11 wins and think it will go on forever.
The warning signs were in the Norwich? match, I think they won 2-3 hardly an entirely convincing scoreline,
hence I was worried and rightly so.
Had I not already backed Liverpool I would have been tempted to back Man City at that point, I think they were 3-1
which I thought was good value.
I always like backing long shots rather than 'dead certs' because I know from experience that what is
billed as a dead cert before a horse-race for example, often turns out to a dead loss once the race starts!!!
Gamblers tend to have a herd mentality, they see everyone is backing a horse and think it is a sure thing
and everyone piles in making it look even more of a certainty, at least until the race starts that is, and that
sickly looking animal plodding along at the back looks anything like a winner.
Anyway we will find out soon enough who wins the title, hopefully Coleman, McCarthy and McGeady
can do me a favour and scupper City's title hopes.