Stadium Updates (All Clubs)

Derry City are in talks with the Council over purchasing land at Templemore Sports Complex for a dedicated academy/training centre.
It's a fairly large site in the northwest of city, and currently has numerous pitches and a leisure centre. The centre is dated and needs development, so a payment from the club to the council probably sounds attractive to councillors.
Interesting point that if it went through, it would free up 20-25 hours of council pitch time.
Bar any legal issues, can't imagine this wouldn't happen.

https://www.derrynow.com/news/local-...more-site.html

Its a bit mad that Derry Council/Stormont pay for the development of the Brandywell and then Derry City may buy a facility off the council after. Its like the funding of one has allowed the proposal and payment of another. Fair play to DCFC if it happens with the win win secnario but a totally indifferent say GAA person would be losing the head. Maybe if a club's owner is worth a couple of billion then there should be an argument that public funding shouldnt be granted?

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Originally Posted by Nesta99

Its a bit mad that Derry Council/Stormont pay for the development of the Brandywell and then Derry City may buy a facility off the council after. Its like the funding of one has allowed the proposal and payment of another. Fair play to DCFC if it happens with the win win secnario but a totally indifferent say GAA person would be losing the head. Maybe if a club's owner is worth a couple of billion then there should be an argument that public funding shouldnt be granted?

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Do GAA people not just lose the head every time another sport gets funding ?

I'd look at the Brandywell and the academy/training centre as two separate things.
The council probably don't want the Templemore site in its entirety anyway. They've had some new pitches elsewhere recently, and if the money from DCFC can help pay for the new leisure centre there, it makes sense. The council can't sell it for non-sporting purposes (would be worth a fortune to a property developer), so now is probably the time for any other sporting body to get a bid in.

I suppose O'Doherty would argue he isn't technically the owner of DCFC, and just because he's wealthy, doesn't mean the club (or the city as a whole) should be excluded from state funding.

The Templemore purchase / lease makes complete sense to me from the point of view of both the council and club.

Had often thought Templemore would have been an ideal spot for Derry to develop a new stadium of their own. It's gone awfully run down this past decade or so, and has a lot of potential for a really good base.

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Originally Posted by Glen Of Aherlow

Do GAA people not just lose the head every time another sport gets funding ?

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Whilst also getting serious amounts of funding for their sport, and pretending they don't and that it's instead all down to "all dee little people knocking on dee doors around dee parish for dee pasht 500 yeurrrs'

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

Whilst also getting serious amounts of funding for their sport, and pretending they don't and that it's instead all down to "all dee little people knocking on dee doors around dee parish for dee pasht 500 yeurrrs'

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Oh holy mother of fúck, always one :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by pateen

Oh holy mother of fúck, always one :rolleyes:

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Which of these things are you disputing:

a) That the GAA likes to talk about itself as being self-funding, and a lot of people in the GAA complain about other sports having the hand out.
b) That the GAA right across the country benefits from a lot of public funding - both directy and indirectly (e.g. transfers of land to develop facilities on etc).

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

Which of these things are you disputing:

a) That the GAA likes to talk about itself as being self-funding, and a lot of people in the GAA complain about other sports having the hand out.
b) That the GAA right across the country benefits from a lot of public funding - both directy and indirectly (e.g. transfers of land to develop facilities on etc).

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Neither. It's your quote in some sort redneck hilly billy type speak. Like as if all all GAA Fans talk that way. Makes me wonder who the real red is here.

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Originally Posted by pateen

Neither. It's your quote in some sort redneck hilly billy type speak. Like as if all all GAA Fans talk that way. Makes me wonder who the real red is here.

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So you didn't disagree with the actual point, you were just being humourless and over-sensitive :ball:

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

So you didn't disagree with the actual point, you were just being humourless and over-sensitive :ball:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU

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Originally Posted by Nesta99

Its a bit mad that Derry Council/Stormont pay for the development of the Brandywell and then Derry City may buy a facility off the council after. Its like the funding of one has allowed the proposal and payment of another. Fair play to DCFC if it happens with the win win secnario but a totally indifferent say GAA person would be losing the head. Maybe if a club's owner is worth a couple of billion then there should be an argument that public funding shouldnt be granted?

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Each and every GAA club in Derry City has their own pitches, clubhouse and land, mostly handed to them on a plate. They don't need to raise their head above the parapet on this one. Also, there is a very good relationship between the two Derry organisations, with Owenbeg in Dungiven now being Derry's training base for the foreseeable until this new training complex is complete.

Why don't Derry train at the Brandywell?

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Each and every GAA club in Derry City has their own pitches, clubhouse and land, mostly handed to them on a plate. They don't need to raise their head above the parapet on this one. Also, there is a very good relationship between the two Derry organisations, with Owenbeg in Dungiven now being Derry's training base for the foreseeable until this new training complex is complete.

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You dont think they'd try? As an organisation? Im sure Joe Brolly would have nothing to say on it...

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Originally Posted by Buckett

Why don't Derry train at the Brandywell?

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Take your pick
It's still a council/community facility. And while dcfc matches may take precedence it's not exclusively the club's to use.
Facilities wouldn't be big enough or have everything required of a training base.(Our injury lists would probably require a small hospital)
We don't really want the artificial pitch

Do any clubs train on their main pitch these days? It'd be a mess if it was in use every day, surely?

Edit - forget the Brandywell was plastic these days of course

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

So you didn't disagree with the actual point, you were just being humourless and over-sensitive :ball:

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Neither interested in your point nor sensitive mate. Just pointing out your attempt at humour in your view of GAA fans.
I love most sports and am first to criticise the GAA, just wouldn't stereotype GAA or LOI fans either, that way

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Do any clubs train on their main pitch these days? It'd be a mess if it was in use every day, surely?

Edit - forget the Brandywell was plastic these days of course

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Harps largely train in Finn Park once the weather fairs up a bit from March or April onwards.

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Originally Posted by pateen

Neither interested in your point nor sensitive mate. Just pointing out your attempt at humour in your view of GAA fans.
I love most sports and am first to criticise the GAA, just wouldn't stereotype GAA or LOI fans either, that way

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Slight Louth variant would fit and is funny - North Louth Mid Louth or South Louth, in each distinct accent, petrified that one of the others gets the money being dropped in to the collection basket and would dive in after the 25c if it was going to the wrong gang. Just see Louth County Ground for reference.