Imagine being a player at one of these clubs and hearing that your board don't think your capable of playing well enough to stay up. Talk about a kick to the balls.
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Imagine being a player at one of these clubs and hearing that your board don't think your capable of playing well enough to stay up. Talk about a kick to the balls.
I can see both sides of the argument with this, 13 more games (for most) being too short, then on the other side, clubs* will want players off their books end of October to help them budget in what has been an unprecedented year for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Just on the 13 more games RH, I trust you will have no qualms about this if you finish second this season?
*Dundalk, Rovers, are paying 12 months, not sure about the rest, Cork also were up to end of 2018, I think?
Don’t think any other clubs are paying players for twelve months.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Forgive me if suggested before, but why not make relegation, and relegation only a 2 season solution? 18 games this year, full season next year.
If we play an 18 game season and finish second I'll be no more annoyed than if we finished second after 36 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Win or lose this season there's going to be an astrix beside it either way but an 18 game season in the fairest way to do it
wot do u mean by that Scrufil? I am a bit puzzled?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrufil
Dont know , are most players bothered or engaged with internal club/league politics id imagine most of if goes over their head. Id say most players are concerned with their training and dressing room politics , a lot of players are just kids in their early twenties. I wouldn't say the majority would take any offence from board level politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
I will guess at a typo and promotion is meant with relegation of more than usual numbers next season or over 2 seasons. At least I doubt it was meant as no promotion in season 2 with relegation only!Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
You make an aggregate of both seasons to determine relegation. Fairest solution. One team is promoted end of this season. Play with 11 teams next season in top division, 9 teams in 1st division and at end of next season aggregate decides who goes into playoffs with aim of reverting to 10 teams in each division at start of 3rd season from now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
It has been done before, the aggregate stuff, (badly at the time) so it is nothing new.
One other fly in the ointment could be that teams don't agree on idea of 5 subs or not.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-39321624.html
Know your place condescending hack, knowing your place isn't a very Irish trait for a start. This country has always boxed above its weight politically, culturally and in terms of sporting achievements. The fans of the league of Ireland are no different and will always seek more for it and I hope that doesn't stop.
Football has to come back sooner or later, that's the hope from most clubs, although I read we have agreedment now with 9 out of the 10 PD clubs.
What I'd be concerned about would be the return of the 12 team PD in 2021 just to facilitate FD clubs. That would almost certainly be a return to 33 games, never a fan of that. This could see sides curently at the bottom like Sligo having to visit Dundalk and Rovers twice, while say FH only have one away game v these two. It does generally rotate the following season, but that's no good for the team who has been relegated.
A 10 team PD has really given most games a competitive edge in my view, and has raised standards, often in the 12 team PD, once teams are safe around early Oct, they have nothing to play for, plus fair few hammerings too from memory, which serves no benefit.
If there's a 12-team Premier next season, it's because no team(s) will have been relegated from the Premier this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
So that'd mean it's to facilitate the PD clubs, not the FD clubs.
Why are the first division clubs crying about 1 up? It's happened before in the division where only 1 went up with no playoffs. There wasn't much crying those years from what I remember.
Yes in hindsight thats a fair point (re Pineapple's post).
I would still prefer a 10 team PD though.
I don't have the background, but at the start of the season, the promotion structure was one up and a playoff.
Why should that now change to one up and no playoff?
I've no opinion on it really but the objective now is to just get the season, in whatever way, finished. Everything has changed so 1 up 1 down would be fine I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
It's happened before in the first division so it's hardly anything new, even if it's different to what was originally going to happen in a normal length season.
That's no reason at all to change promotion mid-season to be honest.
When was the last time that there was only one side promoted from the 1st division only?
2017 I think - Waterford won it as the leagues changed size (again)
A straight one down, one up, seems a bit harsh on the FD clubs battling for playoffs.
I actually quite like the FD clubs proposal of 1 up automatically and the playoff between 2 PD and 2 FD teams with no automatic relegation.