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When we were in Ireland my wife had developed an Irish accent. A few times she was asked if people back home in Portugal noticed the accent, her answer was always "No because Im speaking fcukin Portuguese." There was never a question that made her question someones intelligence more.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Its very common for people in europe to speak English with an American accent because they learn the language mainly from TV. Ive seen it in Portugal and Sweden especially.
I read somewhere years ago that one of the reasons people’s accents change when they move to a new country is from a psychological need to fit in. It’s a confidence or security thing. Some people have less need, though whether that means that they’re more confident or personally resilient is up for discussion I suppose. Maybe it has some bearing on Connolly? Who knows. Then there are the rare others who are bidialectical, like Gillian Anderson – because she was born in the US, she automatically uses an American accent there, but because she was raised in the UK from about 2-11 she slips into an English accent there. I’m a Rossie, but with a very different accent to POS, I’d say, from his description – probably because when I was a (snotty, uppity) kid moving over from Manchester I decided the local accent wasn’t for me. So I’ve a neutral accent that could be from any county or none. But, put me back in Manchester for a couple of days and it’s like I’ve gone down t’Rovers f'r 'otpot, chuck.
As for an accents in a second language… I did French in uni, and once upon a time could pass as French in short conversations - well-spoken northern with a bit of a Picardy twang is probably the best description of that time. I did a bit of German in school as well, but when I ended up with a German girlfriend in uni, she thought it was hilarious that I pronounced things with a distinctly French accent, because by that stage everything I was learning about language acquisition was through French! All of which means, I guess, is that languages and accents and how or why we adopt them is more complicated than we think.
You can’t go abroad and expect to be understood without change – might not be the accent, but certainly the tempo, pitch, pronunciation, and use of words changes consciously/ subconsciously. And the accent goes with fluency in a second language. I think Aaron has just learned to speak English.
Seems to be doing ok for Hull anyways.
ha ha!Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
Didn't realise he was from Connemara
A friend of mine who studied linguistics has told me the standard curriculum learning (at school and University) is still British English, I am finding that harder to believe because there's definitely an American twang and dialogue now with how most non-native English speakers I interact with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I did also ask to explain why when emigrants to Ireland especially those of Eastern European origin speak English with an Irish accent but none speak with a London accent what the reason is for that.
That's the conclusion I came to by myself I think its fairly obvious no? Some people have a need to fit in, the same as those who cant wait to leave a place(their hometown) and automatically "love" their new habitat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eminence Grise
She must have thought you were from Strasbourg. I'd say youre a bit of a cunning linguist your Eminence. Certainly fitting in with an English accent in the 80s/90s would have been hard do, for physical security more than mental.Quote:
but when I ended up with a German girlfriend in uni, she thought it was hilarious that I pronounced things with a distinctly French accent, because by that stage everything I was learning about language acquisition was through French! All of which means, I guess, is that languages and accents and how or why we adopt them is more complicated than we think
Its interesting for Russian Speakers, its clear to those from Russia or the Caucuses who are Ukranian or Latvian, or Muscovites. Less so those from Armenia.
What accent does Enoch Burke have?
Shteve McClaren agreesh
And Joey Barton ~ said in a faux French accent !Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Don't forget Didi "chalm down chalm down" Hamann too. (One of the diddymen maybe?)
You've gotta laugh!Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
https://www.theguardian.com/football...h-accent-video
Ronnie Whelan sounds a bit Scouse too, adopting that tendency to get very high-pitched when excited, for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
You would never have thought that Joey Barton could learn perfect French is such a short time ~ ~ Obviously having been watching Hallo Hallo as he was growing up was really big help to Joey with the French language.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trequartista20
Also Joey managed to slip in to international philosophy while speaking perfect French.
Ronnie has a strong twang. Understandable living there so long. Connolly has more of an English accent than Whelan. Unacceptable! Weak character!Quote:
Originally Posted by Trequartista20
Read that last bit in a Corkonian, Roy Keane voice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
Goal for the bold fella!! Get in. Amazing what the right manager can do.
Connolly has scored for Hull, on his 23rd birthday.
Blimey, that's bloody brilliant!
Great to see! Did it take a deflection? If not it is a wonderful finish and classic Connolly. Hopefully he will celebrate his goal and birthday in moderation later on
Yes but deflection, but nice to see him score
https://twitter.com/vintagetigerss/s...UJFLM_a1lViPxA
Great finish . Not sure the deflection was of much importanceQuote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000